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My experiment

temetrepo

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For your reference.

Purpose of this cycle is as follows:
• Learn to Inject, aspirate before injecting and keeping things clean and sanitary
• Learn how I react to sust 250 as this is my first time
• Keep track of progress / Problems
• Keep track of changes in weigh, strength, attitude and overall feeling

Friday, September 09, 2005 (average 180pounds {I vary from 178-182}) 38 years old, 32 inch waist, 16 inch arms, 16 inch calves and 23 inch thighs

Ok, I received my stuff yesterday and spoke with the provider as he requested. Here is what I have received:
• Sustanon 250 (10 weeks)
• Arimedex
• Clomid
• HCG in powder w/ bacterial water
• Syringes for loading the oil, injecting the oil and for HCG mixing and injecting

I will use sustanon250 for 10 weeks (250MG weekly). I will take one cap of Arimidex every other day starting the day of the first shot. Based on the provider’s instruction, I will not need to use the HCG until the last shot. But after much reading on the subject, I have asked him if I can implement HCG with shot#5 at 200-1000IUs every 3 days.

I was to start my experiment today but it seems I have cached a cold. I will treat this cold and plan to start the first shot on Monday 9/12. I am somewhat concerned about injecting myself as I have never done it. I will be as careful as possible. Maybe I am just nervous (no shit!!)

As for my exercise program, I will most likely maintain my current one:
• Mon: Legs
• Tue: Back
• Wed: Shoulders
• Thurs: Arms
• Frid: Chest

I might rotate this and take a Wednesday off and work-out on Saturday. I will also jog at least 2 days out of the week. Not really crazy about running for ½ hours but it helps my diet, water retention as well as defining my legs (which I feel are lacking in comparison the rest of my body) I am thinking about rotating my cardio with usage of stationary bike and stairs.

As for diet, I will continue to eat clean with 1 cheat day per week. Here is my consumption as of right now (about 2630 calories per day):

• Protein: 200 grams per day
• Fats: 70 grams per day
• Carbs: 300 per day

I have done this in the past and it has worked well for me as far as building lean muscle and reducing fat. I divide my meals to about 6 meals per day including 3 protein shakes. I can always adjust as necessary. Based on this I should be dropping about ½ pounds per week. This should compensate for extra water retention as well as cheat days.

9/12/05 178 pounds First Shot
Just took my first shoot of sust 250. Tried following all instructions as not to screw this up. Scary but it went well. Pin did not hurt. More of a worry than anything else. I have also taken 1 Anastrozole (1MG) as directed. I will take this every other day. I also quit smoking.

This weekend I had a cold and slight fever. Could be due to my low food intake. I will have to monitor this as well. I have planned to increase my caloric intake and include cardio every day except for Monday as I will be working legs. Maybe on this day I will use stationary bike.

Overall feeling is good although concerned about the shot and maybe anticipating results. I will come down and keep records of the day and week.

9/14/05 180 pounds
Well still feeling the same as before except that now my butt is sore from the shot. Nothing out of hand just minor pain. I still have the cold but been taking meds for it. I have also increased my food amount trying to prevent getting sick again and it seems to be working. Especially with dinner. I have been eating very well even including carbs. I might have to take closer shots to get a better feeling for the sustanon. I am thinking of Wednesday and Monday shots. But this might put me on a roller coaster (high test-low test).

If by week 4 there is no change, I will have to contact provider and inform. Maybe I need larger amounts or different stuff. Will wait and see what happens. Since I quit smoking I can tell my appetite has come back. I find my self eating instead of smoking. I don’t mind as I have been working out hard. But I don’t want this to get out of hand. I will make sure I drink plenty of water and have plenty of protein loaded food for me to much on.

Monday 9/19/05 second shot
Had my second shot today and this one hurt more than the first. Not while applying the oil but after the shot it has been sore. I can also feel a small lump on my butt but I know I pushed the oil in too fast. Weird, right after the shot (for no particular reason) got a mayor hard-on. I don’t want to blame the sust on this but I don’t see any other reason for this. Feeling good overall, working out hard at the gym.

Tuesday 9/20/05 180 pounds.
The weekend was ok. I still have this cold just lingering but continue to work out. Over the weekend I ate normal. Did not care about eating fast food. By Monday I was back up to 183. Yesterday I had the new house inspection and really did not stick to taking my protein. I did take my second shot of sustanon. Again no issues with injecting but this shot hurt more than the first. Nothing bad but feel some discomfort. As far as side effects don’t really feel anything yet. Nothing as far as increased sex drive or hunger. I still work out hard and my recoup time remains the same. I have always had a good recoup time and I’ve also lifted very heavy. Not seen any difference on those. My attitude still the same. I was upset over the weekend but that was more due to my wife not been on time for dinner. I know this should not be something to make me mad but this was my b-day gift. The only thing I asked for was to have dinner as a family. But she decided to go to the Apple store and by the time she had arrived, we had finish eating. Also, my daughter was misbehaving. I think that from now on I won’t even bother asking for dinner, I will just go by myself and enjoy it that way. Over the weekend I went to the gym and did cardio. Not that I wanted to but I did not want to be at home.

Today I plan to star my protein regimen again. I will work 2 body parts this week. Yesterday I did legs and back and today will be chest and shoulders. Tomorrow I will do arms and legs. I will be moving this weekend and want to get as much gym time as I can before the move. All in all, I feel the same. No mayor changes that I can see or feel. Not angry, hungry, etc.

Wednesday 9/21/08 181 pounds
Pain from injection is fading away and feeling good. Working hard at the gym.

9/23 181 pounds
Well this week I felt strong. I know that I increased lifting by 10 pounds. Recoup time was very fast as well. Yesterday I was very horny. I have hit every body part 2 times this week. I think the sust is kicking in and maybe is why I feel this way. I will see what happens next week after my 3rd shot. I have been taking the arimidex as recommended every other day. I have slacked on my protein intake due to work. I get back on schedule next week. I will be moving this weekend so I want to make sure I go to the gym this whole week. I have not felt any different except for the horniness and the strength increase. Not angry, I maintain very relaxed and focused but I was like this before starting this process.

Monday 9/26/05 185 pounds Third shot
Took my shot on Sunday due to my moving to my new house. So far no issues. I have noticed that the shots don’t really hurt on my left butt but it does on my right. Also, libido increase was noticeable when injected on my right butt. I will monitor this again this Friday. I went to the gym on Monday and noticed very good gains on strength. Even my wife noticed them. Libido has not increased this week. Monday I was 185 pounds but I think this was mostly due to my eating during the weekend. We moved and ate a lot of junk food and went out for Mexican and had ice cream afterwards.

I will be traveling next Monday so I will take another shot this Friday. I have stepped up with my protein. I also started taking some creatine but it goes right through me. I can’t hold my breakfast so I think I am gonna get off of it for now.

I have been getting this weird taste in my mouth, can’t really explain it. Started when I started taking the sust. The taste is kind of greasy (sust is oil based), don’t really know.

9/27/05 Tuesday182 Pounds
Well today I was back down to 182 and feeling good. Going to do back and will monitor my strength at the gym. My wife has been working out with me and I wonder if she notices anything, I hope not. I have mentioned about the cycle but did not tell her I am on. I told her it would be doctor managed and that seemed to ease her mind. Maybe if I decide to do another one with sust 500 per week, I will tell her as I think the changes will be noticeable at that amount. This week I will only work one body part per day. I am tired from the move and I want to keep my workout as varied as possible.

9/30 Friday 182 Pounds Fourth shot
Took another shot today as I will be traveling on Monday. This one was on the right side, no issues as of today. Will go to the gym and do arms and abs. Go the oily/greasy taste in my mouth again. Man, I really don’t like that.

Tuesday 10/4/05
Well back in town again. I have to say that this was a miserable weekend. I took my shot last Friday on the right glute. No major main that day but Saturday, well that was a different issue. My butt hurt a lot, discomfort and pain even to move around. Also, my left testicle started hurting a lot as well. Had to be careful even walking around. Man, it felt as if someone had kicked me in the nuts.

Friday’s workout was very good, felt very strong. Recovery time was there as well. Had to take it easy as my wife was with me and she was asking questions about the amount I was lifting. I am feeling fine, my testicles are ok and so is my glute. I will not take another shot until next Monday. Meanwhile I will go to the gym and lift hard. Oil / grease taste still there, it comes and goes.

10/7/05 183 Pounds Fifth shot
Just took my fifth shot (I was going to wait until Monday but was told to step it up). I have hit the gym very hard this week. I felt very strong and had great workouts. Tuesday (I was traveling Monday) I did legs and back. For legs is like I could not find enough weigh to lift. I mean, I went all out and kicked mayor ass. This one guy asked to jump in with me and could not keep up and told me to slow down. Wednesday I did chest and shoulders and had a great workout as well. Thursday was arms and legs (legs only for 2 exercises of 5 set each with 12 reps). When I did arms, they felt great. My triceps were going to explode with the pumps. My wife felt them and she was amazed how big I was.

I have measured myself and found an increase of ½ an inch on my arms and calves and about ¼ inch on my legs. Today (10/7 Friday) I will do chest and back but lighter weight, 2 exercises of 5 sets each with 12 reps on each set. Tomorrow I will do arms and shoulder, the same as Friday’s objective.

No issues with testicle pain (than again, I used my left glute). I have not seen an increase on my sex drive, it still the same. Rather low I would think. I am having sex maybe 2 times a week but I was doing this without the sust. I have also kept up my protein intake as planned and I am eating clean. I am also still the arimidex every other day for the most part.

10/10/05 186 pounds Sixt shot
Well based on my provider’s advice, I have taken my 6th shot today and will up the dose to 500mg of sust until the end of my cycle which it’s now scheduled to end around the end of this month (the 24th if I keep 2 shots per week). This weekend was good ok as far as how I feel. I did eat a lot of not-so-good food and also attended a friend’s party and had about 5 beers. Now I am paying for it as I feel like shit. Not so much of a hang-over but just plain shitty. My wife told me she did not feel good either and my son had a slight fever. Will not drink again for a long time.

Back to the shot. It was on the right glute and I am anticipating pain. I will also monitor my testicle for pain as well as discomfort. I am seeing an increase for sexual desire.

10/11/05 184 Pounds
Today I felt pain on my right glute but no pain on my testicle. This is good as I was concerned about this. I will still monitor this situation. Testicles are shrinking. I will take my 7th. Shot on Thursday. This week I’m feeling shitty so I will go to the gym only 3 days. I will do 2 body parts per day as to do my whole body. The oily taste remains and it sometimes is rather stronger.

10/14/05 184 Pounds Seventh Shot
Today I took shot number 7th on left glute. No issues as far as pain. Had a great workout with some awesome pumps. My sex drive has definitely increased a lot. Will take another shot on Monday.

10/17/05 186 Pounds. Eight Shot
Well weekend was good and ate a LOT. On Sunday night I was 189 pound but back down to 186 this morning. Today I will take my 8th shot. And Thursday will be number 9. So far I remain strong and focused.

10/19/05 186 Pounds
Well I took shot number 8 last Monday. The shot was on the right glute and I was expecting much pain as usual, but to my surprise pain was rather minimal (WTF?) Anyway, have had great workouts, diet is clean and getting rest. I still feeling strong during workouts. I will take my last shot #9 tomorrow. Turns out that I only have enough juice for 9 shots, not 10. No big deal. I am now getting everything ready for my PCT.

Friday 10/21005 189 Pounds Ninth shot
I have taken my last shot. I will start PCT in 2 weeks, it will be Clomid 2x a day and HCG 2x per week. As far as workouts, I have upped to 2 body parts per day x 5 days. For the most part it looked like this:

Mon: Legs and Shoulders
Tue: Chest and Back
Wed: Arms and Legs
Thur: Chest and Shoulders
Frid: Back and Arms

I have done some cardio but not as much as expected. I have kept diet in check and rewarded myself with a cheat day here and there. I have maintained a positive attitude through the whole cycle and temperament has not been an issue.

Conclusion:
I felt good overall except for the flu like feeling at the begging but I expected that. Only other issue was testicular pain for one day but never reappeared. I did not feel bloated but my diet was in check and the Arimidex also helped. I kept myself well hydrated and allowed for 2 days of rest time.

As for injecting, I did not have any issues. I wiped everything with alcohol before and after using, always aspirated and injected slowly then massage the spot. Strength came in around week 3 and rest time was very minimal. Sex drive was low until I double the dose to 500mg per week. At which time my wife paid the price.

Attitude remained in check throughout the whole cycle as well. I was not bloated and did not have any acne. I definitely grew, maybe not as much as if I had been eating 4k calories but that was not my ultimate goal. I am glad that I made gradual changes instead. At the end, I am looking a tad bigger, defined and athletic. Much more than I expected considering the low dosage at which I started. I will wait 2 weeks after this shot and start my PCT which consist of HCG and Clomid.
 
Thanks Lion. Honestly I want to go through my PCT and learn how I react to that. Once all is said and done, I was considering another sust cycle, but will probably adjust my diet a bit to enhance gains.

I will take time off (same or longer) as I was on and have another blood test before hand. If I do another, it will be for 12 weeks not shorter.
 
temetrepo said:
well, went to my doc for my yearly, all A-OK. My blood levels were great, no issues whatsoever.


That's a great log bro, thanks for sharing that.

I do have a few questions if you don't mind.

1. If and when you had your blood work done before you started therapy, did you have low test levels?

2. When you had your blood work done post therapy what did your FSH, LH, test and estradiol levels look like?

3. Why did you choose to run Clomid instead of Nolvadex for PCT. From everything I've read on this board and in Anabolics 2005, Nolvadex is superior to Clomid when taken with HCG for PCT.

4. In retrospect, would you run the Sust at 500mgs from the start instead of pyramiding up?


Regards //Rick
 
Rick:
Great questions, by my doc I had stable test levels but I not by the HRT standards. Lets say that you have low test levels, but if you fall within your doc's table then you are considered to be ok even if you are low by someone else's standards. Post blood proved to be fine, just as they were before I started. I received all from a doctor (not my doc) and they recommended that. I have also read many books and clomid serves the purpose. I also used hgc. Lastly, no I will never pyramid again. Next time I will hit it 500 a week for 8 or 12 weeks. I only did it this way as this was my first time and I wanted to be sure of how I would react to this in my system.

Let me know if I can answer anything else.
 
Innocent,
Thanks man. I am still on my "time off" right now. Working on other things but will surely do another one. I want to keep things simple so I will probably stick to 1 compound at a time. Maybe next time I will do some test prop and try cutting more than bulking. Its all on the diet not the extras.....
 
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