My Experiment With Prohormones:

[Warmachine]

you probobly wont listen to me about this, no one ever does

drop your training load. more is not fucking better.

i train 3 days a week, 12 total sets per day
chest/shoulders
back/biceps
legs/triceps

if i had trained this way a year ago i never would have started juicing so soon. the gains are really good

one question...how are you going to tell if prohormones work when you radically change your diet and training at the same time?
if you want to test them you have to keep your training and diet teh same-thus eliminating variables.
i would just save your money for the supps that work, creatine, protien, ala.

btw, how tall are you?

 

[grakt]

I'd have to agree w/ above poster on upping the 1-AD to 600mg / day for the duration. I just ended my second 1-AD cycle, and had some great strength gains coupled with a moderate increase in weight.

Only side effect of note is loss of libido. I was effectively closed for business the entire cycle. In fact, I had to quit 3 weeks early or risk losing my g/f.

If libido is an issue, I'd recommend stacking with 4AD. Not only will it help your sex drive, it should help w/ additional strength and size gains.

Check out http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/catproh.htm for a great overview of prohormones and stacking.

 

[vikingspiderman]

1st day on cycle

First off, The new creatine is actually legit, It's called Creatine Edge Effervescent by FSI Nutrition. My tabs are mandarin orange flavored, tasts just like orang crush. Reccomended usage is only once a day as soon as you wake up. Guys, I have tried the powders and the tabs and never could tell the difference. Not to mention the pain in the ass it is to remember to load the shit. I drank this orange soda shit and wound up having the best workout of my life. I didn't burn out half as quickly as I normally do which. I was able to burst through my sets like never before. Of course I'm not saying I was lifting any heavier, just that I was able to go longer before fatique set in.

I' came to the conclusion that there was no way to fit that entire workout regimen into one hour. so I did wo#1 and #2 and am already sore as hell,,, feels good.

I was missed my mark as far as dramatically changing my diet, although I did get a few more grams of protein than normal and I concentrated on the intake of complex carbohydrates as much as possible. here's how the diet looked for the day

calories = 4,075 carbs = 374g proteins = 166.5g

as planned I spread out 400mg of 1-AD ....btw, i don't really think it would be wise to immediately start taking six doses...i'll give it a day or two and see how i'm feeling. Thanx for the advice though. I will be on the lookout for the issues with sex drive, my wife is nymph so it will be issue.

taking into a few opinions posted do guys think I should leave my diet as is....would this be a better gauge of the prohormone effectiveness.... I mean, even if you juice up with real gear, wouldn't still need to modify your diet?

I do plan to heed the advice about overtraining,,,, what do you think about rest days? should I be taking any? if so how many?

thanks again,

 

[jacshelb]

I just wanted to share my experience. I started out last year at around 150lbs. I've always been skinny (6.25 inch wrist, if that's any indication). I made gains for about 9 months at which time I weighed 160lbs. Then my gains stopped.

I train with plenty of intensity, try to eat enough (i was gaining fat, but not muscle at that point), and got plenty of sleep. And, I only trained 3 days or so per week.

So, I tried transdermal 4-AD in massive quantities (with DMSO). At the end of 4 weeks I weighed about the same but had a little better definition. (for whatever reason) I was disapointed.

I took about 10 days off from training and gained about 3 pounds. Since then, I've cut my training back to training all bodyparts once over one or a couple days and then resting for 9-12 days. I've gained a solid pound every week and it is mostly muscle. (My fat went up some, but I cut out the junk and now it is back to normal and I kept my gains, so it still works for me)

I don't know if this would work for everyone, but I've always been a hard gainer and this seems to be the best thing I've done as far as rest and training goes.

Jacob

 

[Studly Hungwell]

For overtraining prevention, go to cyberpump.com and read the training faq.

I would do this first along with your high calorie diet before using prohormones like AD-1. That PH will work well, but I would save it for sticking points after attempts of all training and diet manuevers.

 

[vikingspiderman]

Day two - possible side effect

I didn't get to train as I was sick all day. What ever my little girl had apparently spread. I did manage to hold all my meals and supplements down and did some little ab sets with no probs.

Cals = right at 3500 carbs = 260 protein = 135 g

for what it's worth i have been sore as hell today much more that usual - indicating that i truly did have a hell of a work out yesterday. I continued the dosage of 400mg of 1-AD too.
This will sound like shit, but my my wife said that I looked harder, I was thinking the same thing but dismissed it as being impossible.
Possible side effect though, I had a little trouble getting an erection when duty called but once I got started I was considerably harder than usual. What caught my attention most was that I experienced climax with very mild ejaculation, for a second I wondered if i had fired a blank... my balls do't seem smaller though so maybe it can be contributed to my being sick.