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I no longer PCT. I do 12-16 month on or blast or whatever you wish to call it. Then I drop to TRT dose of 100-150 test e often stacked with 100 mast e; considering 150 eq or 150 dec. anywayyys i trt for 2-3 months. my dr said since i never PCT anymore i should do pregnyl or run low dose clomid for 3 months out of every year. does that makes sense?


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Time off. PCT etc

im 49. PCT wasn’t working for me past few years. I feel much better since i started TRT. my bloodwork is perfect. should I really go back to that horrible depressing 3 months & total loss of gains for what? and yes, my PCT protocol was correct.


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Time off. PCT etc

haha. we have had this discussion before. I took your advise into account, but sonce PCT seemingly is ineffective now for me & many advised at my age PCT kinda pointless; I went ahead and did TRT this past year. it has worked for me. I don’t see any downside. especially at my age where i would be TRT anyways even if i didn’t train.


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if you are on trt, thats one thing man but 12-16 months blasts? thats just ridiculous... 3-4 month blasts, ok, but what you are doing is just craziness
 
if you are on trt, thats one thing man but 12-16 months blasts? thats just ridiculous... 3-4 month blasts, ok, but what you are doing is just craziness

i hear you. im just wondering what outcomes would justify the word “craziness”?
I mean “craziness” would have to be represented by something quantifiably bad right? like?
sides - nope
high blood pressure. - nope
liver enzymes. - nope
bad lipids - nope
anything at all bad in bloodwork or health screening - nope
testicles the size of marbles - nope

can anyone just please tell me what i should be looking for that seems hidden that is crazy. i mean, i understand the concept might be crazy, can i just know what ill effects make it crazy. and if i experience none of those, is it still crazy anyway?


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i hear you. im just wondering what outcomes would justify the word “craziness”?
I mean “craziness” would have to be represented by something quantifiably bad right? like?
sides - nope
high blood pressure. - nope
liver enzymes. - nope
bad lipids - nope
anything at all bad in bloodwork or health screening - nope
testicles the size of marbles - nope

can anyone just please tell me what i should be looking for that seems hidden that is crazy. i mean, i understand the concept might be crazy, can i just know what ill effects make it crazy. and if i experience none of those, is it still crazy anyway?


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ill add. im not all blown up or super whatever. either. i look like i go to ge gym kinda. no big deal. i take 500 test n 600 dec. i get bloodwork. my test is slightly above the high normal & all else is normal. idk. these compounds just don’t effect me much. i have never gotten sides. other than tren making me crazy n insomnia (i wont take tren anymore) n sum acne. ever. i have never gotten bad bloodwork. ever. i have never really needed a-inhibitors (i take 1 mg / wk as precaution) or etc. i dont get water. i dont get any prolactin issues even with tren n dec. i dont know what to say. i have years of experience. i stopped PCT a year + ago and nothing changed. nothing except the shitty pct n feeling terrible. blood is perfect.


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if you are on trt, thats one thing man but 12-16 months blasts? thats just ridiculous... 3-4 month blasts, ok, but what you are doing is just craziness

sorry. 1 more note. ive never actually gone over 12 weeks ever. even when doing pct. i added the 16 because you dan told me eq was a waste if only done 12 weeks so i plan to do my 1st 16 now. (im at 10weeks currently).
again, note. my trt is 100mg test. not 200 or whatever.


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using more exogenous hormones than what your body naturally produces... in your case blasting for a year straight, will cause a very inflammatory body

just cause you cannot see the damage it is doing (testing bp, how you feel, physical things) doesn't mean you aren't causing problems

for one imagine the pressure your prostate is on, that isn't something you can see or be tested for. it manifests itself over time in problems like urinary issues and even cancer.

another issue is digestive health. having an inflamed body a year straight puts tremendous pressure there.. again that is something you cannot see but it will eventually result in you having major stomach issues
 
using more exogenous hormones than what your body naturally produces... in your case blasting for a year straight, will cause a very inflammatory body

just cause you cannot see the damage it is doing (testing bp, how you feel, physical things) doesn't mean you aren't causing problems

for one imagine the pressure your prostate is on, that isn't something you can see or be tested for. it manifests itself over time in problems like urinary issues and even cancer.

another issue is digestive health. having an inflamed body a year straight puts tremendous pressure there.. again that is something you cannot see but it will eventually result in you having major stomach issues

ahhhh ok. things I never see mentioned much. makes sense & much more informative than its “crazy”; although I appreciate the warnings for sure; I just need more information so I can make good choices.
A simple correction to your statement. I dont blast for a year. my “blast” is 12 weeks of 400-500 test & something else like eq or mast. an intermediate or even beginner cycle. not a huge amount. my trt is not 200-300 like some. it is 100-150 test for 8-12 weeks.
I asked many questions here & elsewhere & did a lot of research before stopping pct’s over a year ago. I was VERY reluctant, but I got a lot of feedback that at my age with my experience reporting that PCT wasn’t working for me anymore(I have had low natural test since I was 30) & at my age why would I be worried about natural test production. I always used very moderate dosing; but last few years my PCT just turned into 3 months of brain fog, depression, and huge loss of physical strength, endurance & muscle quality. so I was reassured from many sources that switching PCT to a TRT was a good choice. Look, I just wanna makes the best choices, given the accepted risks that inherently come with taking exogenous test. when i 1st joined the discussions here, I was so over-careful I did these Tupelo short cycles and everyone ripped into me that it was ridiculous. I take eq or dec for only 10 weeks, I get ripped its just started. Then I take it longer im crazy.
Look, Im on TRT.... but every time I mention that or read it somewhere, it looks like your expected to just be on trt low dose year round as if once your trt, thats your only goal, to just replace natural test. is it not possible to trt and also have a performance goal just like others who have a normal natural test but use exogenous test in cycles. Is trt then short 3-4 week blasting (dan mentioned this but not the interval) but year round better? or is it better to forget trt and just do 12 week cycles with PCT that doesn’t work? Im getting really conflicting info all over the place from research. It would be super helpful & possibly saving my health if all that commented here would be kind enough to take just a moment more, a sentence or 2 more & be more specific.
my goal is trt since pct only gets me back to my already super low natural test production ive had since way before i started performance cycles. my goal also is athletic. are these mutually exclusive? do i choose 1 or the other? if not, what are the protocols for them. if i do trt & a more board acceptable blast that isnt crazy, should i still, pct once a year & just deal with super low test for awhile & for how long?


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if you are on trt, thats one thing man but 12-16 months blasts? thats just ridiculous... 3-4 month blasts, ok, but what you are doing is just craziness

. omg. im so sorry. this whole thread is ruined by me! dammit. i dont know how i missed it. I DONT do 12-16 MONTH blasts. its WEEKS


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if you are on trt, thats one thing man but 12-16 months blasts? thats just ridiculous... 3-4 month blasts, ok, but what you are doing is just craziness

omg. im so sorry. this whole thread is ruined by me! dammit. i dont know how i missed it. I DONT do 12-16 MONTH blasts. its WEEKS


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Im so sorry everyone. I really appreciate your quick response that I was crazy. 12-16 month blast would be crazy. My eyes are so exhausted from reading 100’s of pages of reports.... I know its no excuse, I wasted your time. I simply upon several reviews to edit, just missed the “months” where it was supposed to be weeks. Again, I’m really sorry.


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ill add. im not all blown up or super whatever. either. i look like i go to ge gym kinda. no big deal. i take 500 test n 600 dec. i get bloodwork. my test is slightly above the high normal & all else is normal. idk. these compounds just don’t effect me much. i have never gotten sides. other than tren making me crazy n insomnia (i wont take tren anymore) n sum acne. ever. i have never gotten bad bloodwork. ever. i have never really needed a-inhibitors (i take 1 mg / wk as precaution) or etc. i dont get water. i dont get any prolactin issues even with tren n dec. i dont know what to say. i have years of experience. i stopped PCT a year + ago and nothing changed. nothing except the shitty pct n feeling terrible. blood is perfect.


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Why, if it's ok, do you ONLY look KINDA like you go to the gym? What a waste of cash
 
Why, if it's ok, do you ONLY look KINDA like you go to the gym? What a waste of cash

haha. i guess im comparing myself to a certain crowd. i was working out with my friend, he competes bodybuilding. I guess most of my non-athletic friends think im pretty “buff” or whatever silly word they occasionally throw at me. I guess my point was, compared to most better genetically gifted people who train as hard as i do & add supplements, they would not think much. look Im 5’8” and 158. I was speaking to the in-crowd here, not the layman haha.
the muay thai guys think im strong (just not fast mehh), so. more important to me.

“what a waste of cash”
haha. you should see me off trt n all. i shrivel up. my body wants to be very skinny.
its way worth it for the strength and performance.... just saying, others around me do the same routine & just explode into the typical bodybuilder look. haha. 1 time i think it was labrada or some past champion was in a gym i was at for a few weeks traveling. he asked if i was i climber! i had a mountain climbers body. so, context.


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haha. i guess im comparing myself to a certain crowd. i was working out with my friend, he competes bodybuilding. I guess most of my non-athletic friends think im pretty “buff” or whatever silly word they occasionally throw at me. I guess my point was, compared to most better genetically gifted people who train as hard as i do & add supplements, they would not think much. look Im 5’8” and 158. I was speaking to the in-crowd here, not the layman haha.
the muay thai guys think im strong (just not fast mehh), so. more important to me.

“what a waste of cash”
haha. you should see me off trt n all. i shrivel up. my body wants to be very skinny.
its way worth it for the strength and performance.... just saying, others around me do the same routine & just explode into the typical bodybuilder look. haha. 1 time i think it was labrada or some past champion was in a gym i was at for a few weeks traveling. he asked if i was i climber! i had a mountain climbers body. so, context.


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You would be amazed how little people care about how you look.

You could gain 20 pounds and most people wouldn't even notice
 
I'm thinking of the cost of the gear and the amount you take (I've never taken that much) for the overall size. However, if you're happy in yourself then it's all good.
 
I no longer PCT. I do 12-16 month on or blast or whatever you wish to call it. Then I drop to TRT dose of 100-150 test e often stacked with 100 mast e; considering 150 eq or 150 dec. anywayyys i trt for 2-3 months. my dr said since i never PCT anymore i should do pregnyl or run low dose clomid for 3 months out of every year. does that makes sense?

No, nor does that blast&cruise insanity.
 
I'm thinking of the cost of the gear and the amount you take (I've never taken that much) for the overall size. However, if you're happy in yourself then it's all good.

I'm thinking of the cost of the gear and the amount you take (I've never taken that much) for the overall size. However, if you're happy in yourself then it's all good.

i appreciate your concern. its always good to have others make you recheck your assumptions.
1. $- not to be insensitive or not relatable, but honestly, I have a fairly non-traditional life & the cost is not a big concern in the big picture. plus I live in asia and its cheap.
2. amount- worth correcting the record again - I do NOT blast 12-16 months. I TRT with a low dose of 100mg test e/ wk & maybe 100mg mast e/wk 1/2 the year (every other 3 months)
I go 3 months on with an intermediate dose of 400/wk test plus 400-500 eq/wk.
in comparison, ive been reassured from contacts & my research this is a moderate intermediate cycle.
3. happy - yes, i feel good & dont get sides or any health issues. my strength & stamina are near doubled. bloodwork always good
-although i am now a bit concerned about stevesmi’s comment of undetectable possible longterm problems with inflammation possibly causing risk for cancers or other digestive problems. (my cancer markers are always ok & my kidneys fine).

-if anyone has an opinion on my original question that got lost after i stupidly wrote “months” instead of “weeks” & that shocker of “a 16 month blast” smothered my og question. But maybe taking off even trt for 3 months / year and doing clomid &/or hcg could make sense. (i think my dr said do those during TRT! that’s why i asked if anyone believed that was a worthwhile thing)

Thanks


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