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My Dermacrine experience

njmuscleguy said:
WEEK 3 UPDATE!!!

Ok folks, I just finished my 3rd week of my current PCT regimen.

Still running Sustain. Also taking Tribex Gold, ZMA, RedBlast (before workouts), creatine, glutamine, Animal Packs Multi.

I have to say, still feeling pretty good! Strength is still decent, not comparable to what it's like during cycle, but I wouldn't expect that. Libido is still good. Energy level is still pretty good. I've started up IGF again 3 days ago, 80mcg ED shot bilaterally. I started IGF at beginning of this PCT, ran it for 12 days... took a week off, now starting up again. I'm sure that the IGF is making me tired on some days, plus lack of sleep gets me too. But otherwise, my energy is as good as I had hoped for. Acne on my back is still flaring, but if it means that I'm recovering and test levels are increasing, so be it.

Sustain seems to be doing the job about as nicely as the original Derma formula... short of having that "jacked-up libido" kinda feeling that the original Derma gave (I guess because of the DHEA). I'll be running Sustain for a few more weeks (probably 4 weeks total). Then take a break for a couple of weeks and get bloodwork.

good to hear its going well brother, thanks for being my derma sustain lab rat, iv been waiting to see your results before i try it!
 
I don't mind... plus, I have vested interested, my RECOVERY!

I'm looking forward to the bloodwork - I hope it shows on paper what I'm actually feeling.
 
that was very infirmational, i learned all about the product, maybe not all but no experience, good post and info fellas....Thanks
 
WEEK 4 UPDATE!!!

Ok folks, I've just finished my second week on Sustain (and 2 weeks original Derma before that).

Stil also taking Tribex Gold, ZMA, RedBlast or NO-Xplode (before workouts), creatine, glutamine, Animal Packs Multi. IGF at 80mcg on workout days only (which is every other day now).

The last few days have been a little rough...feeling kinda out of it...energy has been down... libido is so-so. Workouts aren't too shabby, but then again I've been loading up on stims beforehand. Allergies are starting to kick my ass, so that has alot to do with it. My diet has also been lousy the past week, so I'm sure that's also affecting how I feel. Could be not enough sleep.

I think Sustain is still doing its job - I'm pretty sure Sustain has nothing to do with how I feel right now... probably will bounce back in a few days. Still no complaints. I think I have another week's worth in the bottle... not sure the bottle will last me 4 weeks?

Will update again next week!
 
njmuscleguy said:
WEEK 4 UPDATE!!!

Ok folks, I've just finished my second week on Sustain (and 2 weeks original Derma before that).

Stil also taking Tribex Gold, ZMA, RedBlast or NO-Xplode (before workouts), creatine, glutamine, Animal Packs Multi. IGF at 80mcg on workout days only (which is every other day now).

The last few days have been a little rough...feeling kinda out of it...energy has been down... libido is so-so. Workouts aren't too shabby, but then again I've been loading up on stims beforehand. Allergies are starting to kick my ass, so that has alot to do with it. My diet has also been lousy the past week, so I'm sure that's also affecting how I feel. Could be not enough sleep.

I think Sustain is still doing its job - I'm pretty sure Sustain has nothing to do with how I feel right now... probably will bounce back in a few days. Still no complaints. I think I have another week's worth in the bottle... not sure the bottle will last me 4 weeks?

Will update again next week!

Njmuscle,

How has training been? Are you scaling back now that you're not on the juice?

I sometimes drive myself into the ground if I get training too frequently after a cycle. Its better for me to take a little time off, load up on good food, catch up on sleep, ect.

-Pp
 
Primordial Performance said:
Njmuscle,

How has training been? Are you scaling back now that you're not on the juice?

I sometimes drive myself into the ground if I get training too frequently after a cycle. Its better for me to take a little time off, load up on good food, catch up on sleep, ect.

-Pp

Well, I'm following a new workout routine which has me in the gym 4 days a week (1 on, 1 off), as opposed to 5-6 days straight as in before... plus I'm not lifting as heavy as I was while on, but that's not intentional... like I said, I think my "lifestyle" this week has been less than stellar, hence why I feel like crap... I'm hoping it will bounce back soon.
 
artificialaspirations said:
Which product is better for a non-user who wants to boost natty test?

I am currently using the original and must report a positive experience thus far.

Its not quite that simple…

Dermacrine can get your total androgens higher than the Sustain… but the sustain may actually be able to get testosterone higher.

Some guys just don’t convert DHEA >> testosterone very well, so instead the DHEA converts to other androgens such as androstenedione, androstenediol, androstenetriol, ect…

Sustain stimulates the testes more. So, you may get a higher test boost… but Sustain probably wont boost total androgens as high as the original.

The bottom line is that the original derma is going to be more powerful for strength, recovery, immune system, ect… just because it has the added exogenous hormone support. The sustain is a little more ‘natural’ and should help more with getting your balls back to size, sex drive, erection strength, overall well being, ect.

-Pp
 
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