My Dball only cycle progress. (info for those interested)

[bigbair]

Greg,

Thanks for taking the time to lay out the specifics of your diet. I'm not knocking anyones approach to AAS useage, but I think you hit the nail on the head when you said that we concentrate too much on the compounds we use rather than the basic elements which make us what we want to become (sleep, diet, intense training, etc...).

I'm gonna get my diet and training schedule worked out soon. You mind if I PM you for critique when I get it straight? BTW, I'm a huge fan of squats and deadlifts, IMO they're an essential cornerstone of my workout. Good stuff man, K for you.

Bigbear

 

[yomama]

Greg,

Thanks for taking the time to lay out the specifics of your diet. I'm not knocking anyones approach to AAS useage, but I think you hit the nail on the head when you said that we concentrate too much on the compounds we use rather than the basic elements which make us what we want to become (sleep, diet, intense training, etc...).

I'm gonna get my diet and training schedule worked out soon. You mind if I PM you for critique when I get it straight? BTW, I'm a huge fan of squats and deadlifts, IMO they're an essential cornerstone of my workout. Good stuff man, K for you.

Bigbear

Where do you get your information from? You're on crack my friend. Most of us know that sleep, diet and training, and drugs are all important.

 

[Texas Ranger]

Allright. There is alot of talk lately on the merits and pitfalls of a simple dball only cycle. I call this a "back to the basics" approach to cycling. I did it in the past and am doing it currently. This cycle can go eitherway, you can gain and loose all of it ( and then some) afterwards, or you can keep most of your gains like with any other AAS. The thing to keep in mind is to do your best to produce as much real muscle tissue as possible on a cycle like this, as slowly as possible. Quick gains are almost always water, so it's important to keep it to a minnimum and concetrate on streght and lean mass gains.

This is my current formula.

I'm on week 6 of 20mg dball daily with .5mg arimidex EOD. I started with this dosage from day one.

My starting stats:
6'3, 215 lbs with 15% bf.
Very experienced training history with a long 4 year lay off, i currently train 4 days per week.

My diet for the entire day:

1 lb of fish.
2 cups of oats (uncooked)
1 cup of rice (uncooked)
3 cups of vegatables
raisins
Penta Protein (6-8 scoops daily)
Hemp oil.

My results.

This monday marks the beginning of week 6. I weighed myself yesterday and weighed in @ 245. That's right, 245lbs, that's 30lbs with no bloat and i look a few % points leaner. I am propably carrying about 10lbs of water in the muscle itself and expect to loose it post cycle or during this clen/T3 bout. The thing to keep in mind is, i used to weight about 280 lbs in the past, so alot of my weight gain is muscle memory, also i'm a very good respondent to low dose AAS. My strenght gains have been pretty good and i look very solid, not puffy and the cycle is about over. Definitely worth it, if you do it like i did, that is good training (comes with years of experience), look again at my diet, use anti-estrogens and taper off at the end and add clen.

Sides:

Very slight bloat on some days, usually in the lower abs, other then that NOTHING.

I am now down to 5mg Dbol daily with Arimidex @ .5mg EOD, with 40mcg of clen and 25mcg or T3 for the next 2 weeks to cut up a bit and remove any last water. Then PCT.

Also i should point out i take the dball @ 5 AM always in ONE dose.


Kroliczek respond!

WOW!! That's WONDERFUL progress for such a short period of time. Hopefully, this encourages more people to try a low to moderate dose of Gear. Most people would have recommended 50mgs of Dbol ED. More is NOT better. Hat's off, brother!!!!

 

[bigbair]

Where do you get your information from? You're on crack my friend. Most of us know that sleep, diet and training, and drugs are all important.

Let me clarify, your right...anyone with experience knows what it takes to make the gains you look for. BUT, my point was that sometimes gear becomes somewhat of a crutch and too much emphasis is placed on it. I know guys who cant lift with intensity without it. That's all I meant.

 

[gregory]

Let me clarify, your right...anyone with experience knows what it takes to make the gains you look for. BUT, my point was that sometimes gear becomes somewhat of a crutch and too much emphasis is placed on it. I know guys who cant lift with intensity without it. That's all I meant.

And that's the truth in the real world. We all know how important it is to have the rest, nutrition and training, but when guys and juice come together, especially in higher disages and creative stacks it's the juice alone that get's 50% of their attention, the other 50% is of their attention is for diet, sleep, and training, it's a little lop sided to say the least.

Bigbair, PM me whenever you want.

 

[bigbair]

Bigbair, PM me whenever you want.

Muchas Gracias.

BB

 

[Bozwell]

Hey, that is my baby. I love the Z like no other car. There's just no other car on the road that is so timeless. Mine is a 90 300zx 2+2, NA 5 speed with 90,000 miles. Runs like a dream. I just can't see myself getting rid of it.

any mods?
sweet car!

 

[gregory]

any mods?
sweet car!

A little off topic on this thread but what the hell.

Ahem, let me clear my throat.

1. Polished paint ( to give it a mirror show car wet look)
2. Clear corners
3. Light tints
4. Custom 2 tone seats/interior with "Z" embroidery (done very classy)
5. Navan shift knob
6. "Z" embroidered floor mats
7. Custom sound system with dual amps, bass tube, capacitors, etc...

8. Upgraded brakes
9. Ugraded suspension
10. Unorthodox Racing Underdrive pulley
11. K&N FIPIK cone intake
12. $tillen cat back 304 Stainless steel exhaust
14. Upgraded Nismo Clutch
15. Sythetic engine oil, cooland, differential, tranny and brake fuids.
16. Rolling on some nice grippy Yokohama rubber

Winter only:

Nissan bra for the front and mirror bras as well.

 

[Bozwell]

A little off topic on this thread but what the hell.

Ahem, let me clear my throat.

1. Polished paint ( to give it a mirror show car wet look)
2. Clear corners
3. Light tints
4. Custom 2 tone seats/interior with "Z" embroidery (done very classy)
5. Navan shift knob
6. "Z" embroidered floor mats
7. Custom sound system with dual amps, bass tube, capacitors, etc...

8. Upgraded brakes
9. Ugraded suspension
10. Unorthodox Racing Underdrive pulley
11. K&N FIPIK cone intake
12. $tillen cat back 304 Stainless steel exhaust
14. Upgraded Nismo Clutch
15. Sythetic engine oil, cooland, differential, tranny and brake fuids.
16. Rolling on some nice grippy Yokohama rubber

Winter only:

Nissan bra for the front and mirror bras as well.

VERY nice!
try a bit of gas (aas for cars)

 

[gregory]

LOL! Yea, sorry about that i forgot:

17: Unleaded gas. (93 octane)