my cycle

[_mo_protein]

Hi bro's

im going over to the dark side in the new year and would like to get some input from you guys on my first cycle.

My current stats are 185 @ 13% bf, been training or 4 years religously now.

i was thinking about this:

weeks 1-3, 25 mg dbol every day
weeks 1-9, 500mg test cyp a week
weeks 1-8, 400mg deca a week
weeks 10-11,50mg winstrol every day
week 12 clomid starting at 300 the first day then 50 every day for 3 weeks.

How does this look? I want to gain mayb 20 pounds so im shooting for a gain of mayb 25 keeping 20. Should i consider running some clen and eca alternating every 2 weeks at the start of week 12?

I will have arimidex on hand also, at the slightest sign of gyno or if i bloat to much i'm planning on taking 0.25 a day.

Anyway guys i know this question comes up a LOT and im another stupid guys asking it, but i would really like to get some feedback on my cycle from some experienced bro's.

 

[ultragainz]

looks fine to me...and always take liver protectors like ALA at 600-1000mgs/day along with ones and drink 1-2 gallons of water a day....

 

[Beezers]

Everything looks spot on except for the winny. Two weeks really won't have much effect. I would just drop it since it's your first cycle. You'll do fine without it and it'll be there for number two or three. Test/Deca/Dbol is plenty for your first cycle. The simpler you keep it the better off you are financialy and mentaly. No need to have four drugs on any cycle really let alone your first. Other than that if you eat properly(that's the most important thing) you will get your pounds.

 

[_mo_protein]

Thanks for the input guys, its greatly appreciated.

About the winny i wanted to use it to try and keep my androgen levels up after i stop the injections that way i can start my clomid therapy fast while still haveing relatively high androgen levels the last week.

 

[macDbol]

run the dbol for 4 weeks

 

[_mo_protein]

bump for more input.

 

[_mo_protein]

please some more input guys?

 

[Maxx Out]

You're probably not going to like my advice but here it goes:

Many people know I'm a big advocate of using the small amounts in the begining and save stacking for later cycles.

u'll have no prob. reaching your goals w/a test only cycle.

weeks 1- 10 test 400mg/week
weeks 12 clomid 100mg/day
weeks 13-14 clomid 50mg/day

nolv on hand

 

[Beezers]

You're probably not going to like my advice but here it goes:

Many people know I'm a big advocate of using the small amounts in the begining and save stacking for later cycles.

u'll have no prob. reaching your goals w/a test only cycle.

weeks 1- 10 test 400mg/week
weeks 12 clomid 100mg/day
weeks 13-14 clomid 50mg/day

nolv on hand

I whole heartedly agree. I said this in my post, but didn't trim the cycle up this much, but mo, for your first cycle you simply don't need four drugs and a gram of substrate in your system to grow well. Concentrate on your diet as that's where the gains come from and 400-500mg of test weekly will have you growing like a weed with ample rest. Many people are overly reliant on the drugs to do the work for them so they use 18 different compounds in one cycle. It's not necessary at any level, esspecially your first cycle. Save your winny, and I would even save the deca. Test cyp and the kick start of dbol will have you growing.

 

[Maxx Out]

I whole heartedly agree. I said this in my post, but didn't trim the cycle up this much, but mo, for your first cycle you simply don't need four drugs and a gram of substrate in your system to grow well. Concentrate on your diet as that's where the gains come from and 400-500mg of test weekly will have you growing like a weed with ample rest. Many people are overly reliant on the drugs to do the work for them so they use 18 different compounds in one cycle. It's not necessary at any level, esspecially your first cycle. Save your winny, and I would even save the deca. Test cyp and the kick start of dbol will have you growing.

Ya, I've always been that way. When new to aas your body is fresh and no need to over do it. I even think the d-bol might be a bit much w/the test but if he keeps it low I guess it'll be fine.

Maxx >>>>>

 

[megabump]

Thanks for the input guys, its greatly appreciated.

About the winny i wanted to use it to try and keep my androgen levels up after i stop the injections that way i can start my clomid therapy fast while still haveing relatively high androgen levels the last week.

Propinate would be much better for what you are trying to do and the end of your cycle. If you do stick with the winny and the tabs are from China, take 2 per day instead of 1.

Take the arimidex from the start to keep down the water retention. With Dbol and Test bloat is almost guaranteed. There is no way you will be able to keep 20 out of 25 pounds if water retention is factored into your weight gain. There is just no way to keep it. Run the Arimidex the whole time through so you know that most your weight gain doesnt involve water.

Instead of Clomid for 3 straight weeks at 50mg, take 100mg for 10 days and then 50mg for 10 days.

Nolvadex is what you should use if you feel gyno tingling in your nips.

BTW, its nice to see a question posted by someone who has obviously done a little research before he posted, I gave ya some Karma. Good Luck!