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Xtream

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cycle dose?

I have started my cycle, 250 mg enth monday and thurs. I have eq coming in the next week. Is it best to take the eq in 2 doses, tues and fri. Or stack it with the enth? Im thinking 300 mg x2.

cheers
 
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I always seperate my doses. You taking 500mgs of Test per week? Then take 250mgs twice a week. Keeps the levels of hormone more balanced out. Taking it all at once just elevates the hormone levels really high for the first day or two. Then it gradually does down. Taking it twice a week would help keep it up.
 
Carth said:
I always seperate my doses. You taking 500mgs of Test per week? Then take 250mgs twice a week. Keeps the levels of hormone more balanced out. Taking it all at once just elevates the hormone levels really high for the first day or two. Then it gradually does down. Taking it twice a week would help keep it up.

same with the eq? spread that out too? or with the tset?
 
I do it with both bro. But remember...some do not like to stick themselves so many times. So they just take all at once.
 
Carth is right. Although you could get away with doing everything all at once only once per week. I would split it up just like you planned. 250mg test / 300mg eq on
monday and thursday
 
Carth said:
I do it with both bro. But remember...some do not like to stick themselves so many times. So they just take all at once.


Good advice by Carth on his posts. I agree, spit up the test shots and take the EQ w/it. You can mix them w/no prob and only have to stick youself twice a week. EQ is longer acting but its still good to keep your blood levels as seady as you can.
 
I'm not sold on splitting test doses. I guess it could work in theory, but i'd like to see some hard facts on the actual serum levels difference between 1x and 2x a week injections. On a long ester like enan, i don't think it matters. Any other opinions?

Carth, just opening a discussion bro...no harm intended.
 
You inject 500mgs of Test E on Sunday and every Sunday thereafter. So thats 500mgs of Test every 7 days. But how much Test are you really getting per each day? Its certainly not 500mgs of Test nicely divided into 7 days. In other words...your not going to get 71mgs of Test each day of that whole week.

Its going to more like 100mgs the first day and then from there on it will slowly enter the bloodstream. But how? It could start from 100mgs the first day and then be 50mgs the next and lower and lower. Taking it twice keeps that HIGH level up higher. And if you don't believe me just look it up in the Anabolic 2004 book.
 
Sorry, i can't see it being any different. You're getting the same amount regardless. Ok, during a 10 weeker, you hit 500mg a week...regardless of if you hit 250x2 or 500x1...you are injecting 5,000mg of test over a 10 week period. The total amount of test you take in doesn't change just because you split it into two shots.
 
You got the book? If not...then search for it. Its in there. Your right it doesn't make a difference. But what does make the difference is that your Test levels stay higher and do not drop off so much. There are many members here that have agreed to my way of doing this because they too do it and find better results.
 
Ive read about the levels droping off over the days, also read about heart rate staying level when splitting oral. Not sure if test levels effect the heart rate. I will be splitting the teat into 2 shots a week, if I go above 500 mg, i might take the next 250 mg on fri or sat. Or should I just take 375 mg x2? Do I even need 750 mg test e? I will be taking 600 mg eq/week aswell.

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6'2"
200 lbs

pre-cycle
 
SuperDawgy said:
Sorry, i can't see it being any different. You're getting the same amount regardless. Ok, during a 10 weeker, you hit 500mg a week...regardless of if you hit 250x2 or 500x1...you are injecting 5,000mg of test over a 10 week period. The total amount of test you take in doesn't change just because you split it into two shots.

i agree with u, take it all in the same day, the half life of enanthate 2 weeks, 3 or 4 days wont make a diference
 
rom_mem said:
i agree with u, take it all in the same day, the half life of enanthate 2 weeks, 3 or 4 days wont make a diference

I guess from the dif responces that it doesn't matter if I split the dose or not.
 
Xtream said:
I guess from the dif responces that it doesn't matter if I split the dose or not.


I just think that the less needles you have to stick in your ass, the better. Carth has a good point and if it works for him thats great...but i can't honestly tell you that it's going to be a huge difference.
 
SuperDawgy said:
I'm not sold on splitting test doses. I guess it could work in theory, but i'd like to see some hard facts on the actual serum levels difference between 1x and 2x a week injections. On a long ester like enan, i don't think it matters. Any other opinions?

Carth, just opening a discussion bro...no harm intended.


This may help with a visual. It is a program that calculates blood plasma levels by using the half-lifes of the steroid:

http://www.come.to/roidcalc

You can also see how frontloading can be very beneficial when using long-acting AAS. (Test Enanthate = Testoviron on the calculator)
 
Bros! come on! give some K to this bro of ours. Do what I told you and you'll see that spreading out is better. But you won't see the goodness out of that up until week 2 -3 .

Where as the other way, injecting all at once, you'll see the huge spike of hormones and then it comes down. That might not be good also for your sanity. Could cause you to get roid rage? No? Ok..nevermind!
 
Yes, it could explain it, and for my money, it does. It's not so much the level of androgens in your system that gives sides as it is the rapid fluctuation is said levels. So, tren eod has more spikes and troughs than ED, so more sides. It's why I always divide shots up even if it's 1cc each time. Of course, I like to run heavier cycles now, so I kinda need more than one shot a week no matter what concentration or gear I'm running :) Hell, for test/eq, I'd shoot 3x a week, MWF.
 
The calc is cool. Now try this, add up the total # of mgs when you frontload 500mg of enan vs the total # of mgs when you hit 250mg 2x a week.
 
Its just off by a few mgs. And did you run it all the way down to the last week? To each his own. This is the way I prefer. I stay harder and leaner like that. And I do not get sever roid rages neither. Like I said, if I take Tren EOD...I will kill someone very easily. But if take it ED...I'm cool as hell.
 
Calc. is perfect thanks bud. Im a lil worrieded about the amount in my system after 8 weeks, 1600 + mg. seems hi? Do I need it that hi? thats with 500 mg E , 600 mg Eq.
 
Xtream said:
Calc. is perfect thanks bud. Im a lil worrieded about the amount in my system after 8 weeks, 1600 + mg. seems hi? Do I need it that hi? thats with 500 mg E , 600 mg Eq.

not sure what to think about this.
 
500mgs of Test with 600mgs of EQ bad???? Bad how? In what way? It all depends on you bro. Everyone is different. Maybe too high for some and not for others.
 
Carth said:
500mgs of Test with 600mgs of EQ bad???? Bad how? In what way? It all depends on you bro. Everyone is different. Maybe too high for some and not for others.


the calc shows that there is over 1600 mg in my system on the days at the end of my cycle. Maybe I am missing some thing. the 1600 mg isn't like there is a gram and a half of test in me that day does it?
 
Carth said:

the calc. shows the amount of test in the blood every day of the 8 weeks, after you enter the days you inject. Every day the test adds up. By the end of the 8 weeks it shows 1600 mg for the one day.
 
I'm not sure what you did, but this what your daily values should be what your blood levels steady out to be:

Monday: 165mg
Tues: 149mg
Wed: 132mg
Thurs: 175mg
Fri: 156mg
Sat: 139mg
Sun: 124mg

Nothing to worry about.
The blood levels become very close to peak steady state as of week 3, and will be out of your system within 3 weeks of your last jab. Hope that helps bro.
 
BIG SMT said:
I'm not sure what you did, but this what your daily values should be what your blood levels steady out to be:

Monday: 165mg
Tues: 149mg
Wed: 132mg
Thurs: 175mg
Fri: 156mg
Sat: 139mg
Sun: 124mg

Nothing to worry about.
The blood levels become very close to peak steady state as of week 3, and will be out of your system within 3 weeks of your last jab. Hope that helps bro.


That seems better. I'll try it again.

cheers
 
Xtream said:
That seems better. I'll try it again.

cheers


lol, not sure what I did befor to get those values. Did it again and got the right values. Sorry guys. So what happens to the rest of the sauce if there is only around half in the blood? does it just past through? Piss it out?
 
SuperDawgy said:
Sorry, i can't see it being any different. You're getting the same amount regardless. Ok, during a 10 weeker, you hit 500mg a week...regardless of if you hit 250x2 or 500x1...you are injecting 5,000mg of test over a 10 week period. The total amount of test you take in doesn't change just because you split it into two shots.
No offense, I'm exaggerating to show a point. If you look at it that way, just take the whole 10ml's at once. You would still be getting the same amount of drug. Injecting twice a week will keep the levels more stable which will help to control the sides and keep the gains more consistent. The last thing you want is fluctuating hormone levels. That's hard on your body.
 
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