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My bouncing/doorman story...

AHOVA

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Hello all, just wanted to share a real life story with you and see what ya'll think about it. Here it goes...

Our club is full every thrus-saturday with around 400 people. We are located in the midwest US in a city which is 88% white and the rest equal split of Mexican/Black/Native Am. peoples. I was moved from a bar backing job, to the head doorman position a couple of months ago when we were overran with riff-raf night after night. I now enforce a dress code which covers everything from a-z. I assume i was chosen because i'm the biggest employee at 6'4" 290lbs and very athletic for playing college football. The most enforced things are no sideways hats, durags, bandannas, jerseys, or excessively baggy clothing or heavy neck chains. My only problems are with the minorities. Primarly the blacks who come from a near by air force base, and mexicans who are migrant workers. These guys come in and dont spend any money, sit in a big group by the pool tables to ambush white girls going to the bathroom or just of the dance floor. Saying things like "why you look so good" and other garbage. We have had servers groped, women sexually harassed on a regular basis prior to the dress code. Don't get me wrong, we have a few very classy black men who come in and buy bottles on a regular basis, However I'm speaking about 90% of them. I know a few blacks on my fball team who are alright, not friends just teammates. I'm wasnt racist at all until I started this job and saw how they really are.

I tell a white boy to take his jeresey off, he does it without hesitation. no problems.

I tell a group of blacks or mexicans that their clothes are too baggy and this is what i get... every time!

first... man whatchu talkn bout...these is shots (shorts)
second... they get angry... man what this dude talkn bout, knawmean?

then they try to pull their pants/shorts up, i say no guys , your just going to pull them down inside... and point to the sign.

Then they stand around is a circle with their heads cocked, talkin jibberish, till one one them comes to negociate with me... i refuse again and then..

THE RACE CARD... they point inside...look at this white boy, his shits like ours... fuck yall... cracker this cracker that... "dont be prejedice" is a favorite or "just cuz im a minority". Then i have to take my cell phone out and threaten to call the cops. I'm a very large intimidating guy like I mentioned before and havnt had any physical confrontations with them... but i feel its just a matter of time.

The last few weekends we have about 10-20 just stand around in the streets by their "rides" waiting for the women to come out or to cause problems. Two weeks ago 6 of them jumped a white kid in an ajacent parking lot... knocked him out cold, and proceded to circle stop him. One of our bouncers probably saved his life by spraying the group down with pepper spray. The kid came and talked to me sat. night at the door. His face was all fucked up still.. He said they broke his nose, jaw, eye socket, couple ribs.


I had to vent and share my story... I would love to hear your opinions/advice/thoughts on this matter!
 
damn bro. I'd have the cops on speed dial and have them come clean up that trash from a few times and I bet they will stop coming around.
 
its hard man but what you guys need to do is start banning people,have the same dude on the door every night so these people do not get inside, I know i remember the faces of trouble.

we also enforce a dress code where I work,no banana's etc, we also do pat downs,you could even go as far as the wand.

however my best advice is get a stab vest,never handle any situation alone,make sure you guys never go in alone either no matter how small teh guy is. treat people with respect but be firm, and never ever make exemptions to the rules.

got any other questions id be happy to answer ive been bouncing for 4 years,and I know we have some other guys here who know the business inside and out(slat,humantarget,etc)
 
then your doing everything right.

there will always be some fucking asshole who thinks he is king shit and wants to ruin the party.
 
gay story
 
Best thing I can tell you is to put the habitual shit-starters on trespass notice w/ local PD. It's best to get a handle on the shit before you have 100 pieces of shit on hand every Thurs-Sat.

The job can definitely wear on your "social outlook", as far as the typical blacks go. I've got a million playin' the race card stories. Just let them know that "you ain't tryin' to hear dat shit, dog" and make sure you can count on your crew. Sounds like you got your shit together.
 
AHOVA said:
Hello all, just wanted to share a real life story with you and see what ya'll think about it. Here it goes...

Our club is full every thrus-saturday with around 400 people. We are located in the midwest US in a city which is 88% white and the rest equal split of Mexican/Black/Native Am. peoples. I was moved from a bar backing job, to the head doorman position a couple of months ago when we were overran with riff-raf night after night. I now enforce a dress code which covers everything from a-z. I assume i was chosen because i'm the biggest employee at 6'4" 290lbs and very athletic for playing college football. The most enforced things are no sideways hats, durags, bandannas, jerseys, or excessively baggy clothing or heavy neck chains. My only problems are with the minorities. Primarly the blacks who come from a near by air force base, and mexicans who are migrant workers. These guys come in and dont spend any money, sit in a big group by the pool tables to ambush white girls going to the bathroom or just of the dance floor. Saying things like "why you look so good" and other garbage. We have had servers groped, women sexually harassed on a regular basis prior to the dress code. Don't get me wrong, we have a few very classy black men who come in and buy bottles on a regular basis, However I'm speaking about 90% of them. I know a few blacks on my fball team who are alright, not friends just teammates. I'm wasnt racist at all until I started this job and saw how they really are.

I tell a white boy to take his jeresey off, he does it without hesitation. no problems.

I tell a group of blacks or mexicans that their clothes are too baggy and this is what i get... every time!

first... man whatchu talkn bout...these is shots (shorts)
second... they get angry... man what this dude talkn bout, knawmean?

then they try to pull their pants/shorts up, i say no guys , your just going to pull them down inside... and point to the sign.

Then they stand around is a circle with their heads cocked, talkin jibberish, till one one them comes to negociate with me... i refuse again and then..

THE RACE CARD... they point inside...look at this white boy, his shits like ours... fuck yall... cracker this cracker that... "dont be prejedice" is a favorite or "just cuz im a minority". Then i have to take my cell phone out and threaten to call the cops. I'm a very large intimidating guy like I mentioned before and havnt had any physical confrontations with them... but i feel its just a matter of time.

The last few weekends we have about 10-20 just stand around in the streets by their "rides" waiting for the women to come out or to cause problems. Two weeks ago 6 of them jumped a white kid in an ajacent parking lot... knocked him out cold, and proceded to circle stop him. One of our bouncers probably saved his life by spraying the group down with pepper spray. The kid came and talked to me sat. night at the door. His face was all fucked up still.. He said they broke his nose, jaw, eye socket, couple ribs.


I had to vent and share my story... I would love to hear your opinions/advice/thoughts on this matter!
you dont have enuff posts for me to read all this,
 
I don't understand what makes its gay... or why someone requires tens of thousands of posts to be credible.
 
I'm a bouncer also, and you have to remember that you don't owe these "guys" ANY explanation as to why you won't let them in.

A club/bar is a private establishment and reserves the right to refuse anyone for "any reason".......................

If I see someone who is looking to start trouble and he's on his way to the door, I'll just tell him to get lost, - he'll ask "what the fuck did I do"

I just say "I don't like you...........NEXT........"

You need to be quick with your toughness...............don't get into a conversation where you need to explain yourself. You're in charge - you TELL them to leave and show them the way out...............PERIOD
 
a creed said:
I'm a bouncer also, and you have to remember that you don't owe these "guys" ANY explanation as to why you won't let them in.

A club/bar is a private establishment and reserves the right to refuse anyone for "any reason".......................

If I see someone who is looking to start trouble and he's on his way to the door, I'll just tell him to get lost, - he'll ask "what the fuck did I do"

I just say "I don't like you...........NEXT........"

You need to be quick with your toughness...............don't get into a conversation where you need to explain yourself. You're in charge - you TELL them to leave and show them the way out...............PERIOD

that explains everything about you, 90% of bouncers are egotistical dicks just like you.... you think with your roid induced shrunken testicles instead of your brains. being a bouncer is not so much size as it is brains, you need to be a master at dealing with people........ the majority of you think that your muscles will do the talking, a common mistake

that is how niggas get stabbed quick.... you dont think they dont know when you get off work ? you guys just dont get it, you are so stupid !!! all it takes is one guy to get pissed at you and come back and twist your cap backwards !!!

if you treat them with some respect and let them save face, they wouldnt react like such dickheads to you bouncers......

just try it.. it works !!! explain to them why you cant let them in, and level with them. If they are too drunk to level with you and think straight then just call the cops and have them arrested for being drunk in a public place.

treat them how you want to be treated....... it is the oldest and easiest trick in dealing with people that so many people forget in this day.
 
theoak01 said:
however my best advice is get a stab vest,never handle any situation alone,make sure you guys never go in alone either no matter how small teh guy is. treat people with respect but be firm, and never ever make exemptions to the rules.

Good advice. Better to swallow your pride when dealing with arseholes on the door than get cowardly stabbed or ganged up on. Bruised ego > x weeks of intensive care / griefing family.
 
Maverick said:
that explains everything about you, 90% of bouncers are egotistical dicks just like you.... you think with your roid induced shrunken testicles instead of your brains. being a bouncer is not so much size as it is brains, you need to be a master at dealing with people........ the majority of you think that your muscles will do the talking, a common mistake

that is how niggas get stabbed quick.... you dont think they dont know when you get off work ? you guys just dont get it, you are so stupid !!! all it takes is one guy to get pissed at you and come back and twist your cap backwards !!!

if you treat them with some respect and let them save face, they wouldnt react like such dickheads to you bouncers......

just try it.. it works !!! explain to them why you cant let them in, and level with them. If they are too drunk to level with you and think straight then just call the cops and have them arrested for being drunk in a public place.

treat them how you want to be treated....... it is the oldest and easiest trick in dealing with people that so many people forget in this day.

bullshit. a nigga with an attitude is a nigga with an attitude.
 
You guys need a detail at your club. They will not take any shit. If people are hanging out in the parking lot they will call in back up to force them out. If they start talking shit about the dress code he will tell them to go home or they are going to jail.
I have worked in the worst clubs my state has to offer. People have been shot, stabbed and raped at the clubs.
I will tell you this though. No matter what club you work at and no matter who goes in it you will always see some of the worst society has to offer.
I have seen the lowest of the low of black guys, hispanic guys, cuban guys, white guys, senior citizens etc.
Its the nature of the business.
 
Maverick said:
that explains everything about you, 90% of bouncers are egotistical dicks just like you.... you think with your roid induced shrunken testicles instead of your brains. being a bouncer is not so much size as it is brains, you need to be a master at dealing with people........ the majority of you think that your muscles will do the talking, a common mistake

that is how niggas get stabbed quick.... you dont think they dont know when you get off work ? you guys just dont get it, you are so stupid !!! all it takes is one guy to get pissed at you and come back and twist your cap backwards !!!

if you treat them with some respect and let them save face, they wouldnt react like such dickheads to you bouncers......

just try it.. it works !!! explain to them why you cant let them in, and level with them. If they are too drunk to level with you and think straight then just call the cops and have them arrested for being drunk in a public place.

treat them how you want to be treated....... it is the oldest and easiest trick in dealing with people that so many people forget in this day.

Seriously, it's wiggers like you that keep me off myspace.

Niggas get stabbed up, quick quick, dog. Peel dey cap back, wet em up, yup yup click click. Shut the fuck up.

Yeah, what most of the criminal element needs is a little respect. (Trust me, tree-hugger, I spent several years in LE, and you KNOW when polite 'talking time' is exhausted and it's time to get serious. Ever see 'Kill Bill'...that high-pitched siren noise? It's kind of like THAT). Stop smarting off to bouncers and being a pussy.
 
boss_ said:
Seriously, it's wiggers like you that keep me off myspace.

Niggas get stabbed up, quick quick, dog. Peel dey cap back, wet em up, yup yup click click. Shut the fuck up.

Yeah, what most of the criminal element needs is a little respect. (Trust me, tree-hugger, I spent several years in LE, and you KNOW when polite 'talking time' is exhausted and it's time to get serious. Ever see 'Kill Bill'...that high-pitched siren noise? It's kind of like THAT). Stop smarting off to bouncers and being a pussy.


what does any of this have to do with myspace?
 
maverick is right guys,sure they will still have attitude and be pissed but if you humiliate them infront of their "boys" they are more likely to come back and do something stupid,give them every chance to save face that you can,and then if you have to get physical do it.

calling the cops ,that depends on your area,I have a good relationship with the local pd and from talking with them ,they prefer us to handle it on our own and if shit really kicks off they will show up and take our side no matter what,they know we arent meat heads looking to hurt people, your bar should work on establishing good rapport with the police ,because if your not on good terms they will treat you like shit and instantly take the patrons side and see you as a juice monkey with a ego problem.
 
patsfan1379 said:
what does any of this have to do with myspace?

Because you can't avoid watching these wiggers pretending to be hardcore and use a "blaccent" over the internet.
 
slat1 said:
You guys need a detail at your club. They will not take any shit. If people are hanging out in the parking lot they will call in back up to force them out. If they start talking shit about the dress code he will tell them to go home or they are going to jail.
I have worked in the worst clubs my state has to offer. People have been shot, stabbed and raped at the clubs.
I will tell you this though. No matter what club you work at and no matter who goes in it you will always see some of the worst society has to offer.
I have seen the lowest of the low of black guys, hispanic guys, cuban guys, white guys, senior citizens etc.
Its the nature of the business.

I agree 110% with my neighbor to the north.

I have also worked at clubs (in Providence, RI) where "I" was supposed to protect the cops if the shit hit the fan. People would drive by and take shots at Cops about once a month, and if we saw it , we were supposed to take the bullet.

Thanks God I'm not THAT young and stupid anymore, but as my friend has stated - working at a club, you will see some shit that will turn your stomach - literally the worst in people/society.

I always like Bouncing, cause' I still think it's a persona RIGHT to go out and have a good time without having to deal with people who shouldn't even be allowed to walk the streets.

PS - I still HATE you MAV
 
Maverick said:
that explains everything about you, 90% of bouncers are egotistical dicks just like you.... you think with your roid induced shrunken testicles instead of your brains. being a bouncer is not so much size as it is brains, you need to be a master at dealing with people........ the majority of you think that your muscles will do the talking, a common mistake

that is how niggas get stabbed quick.... you dont think they dont know when you get off work ? you guys just dont get it, you are so stupid !!! all it takes is one guy to get pissed at you and come back and twist your cap backwards !!!

if you treat them with some respect and let them save face, they wouldnt react like such dickheads to you bouncers......

just try it.. it works !!! explain to them why you cant let them in, and level with them. If they are too drunk to level with you and think straight then just call the cops and have them arrested for being drunk in a public place.

treat them how you want to be treated....... it is the oldest and easiest trick in dealing with people that so many people forget in this day.


this is true. ive been bouncing for 13 years now. ive bounced in all types of bars, clubs, strip clubs, etc... they are all different and you have to handle each situation differently. if a guy calls you an asshole you tell him "you know your right, but you still gotta leave". but be nice about it. in my entire 13 years bouncing i had to punch 1 guy and that was because he was about to hit me, i blocked it and reacted. i should have just taken him down to the ground but knocking him out in one punch felt better... lol seriously, i should have handled it better.

its funny, the guys i work with now use to play a game. they would get together and say "ok, find a guy in a white hat and kick him out", next guy says "why?" then they say "just because". the funny thing is they all tell me their stories of getting hit in the head with a bottle, needing stitches, getting stabbed, guns pulled on them, etc.... but me, the way i bounce, i have never been hit, stabbed, shot, or even threatened to be shot or stabbed. cause i treat them with respect even though they may not be respecting you. it kills their fire.
 
bigmann245 said:
this is true. ive been bouncing for 13 years now. ive bounced in all types of bars, clubs, strip clubs, etc... they are all different and you have to handle each situation differently. if a guy calls you an asshole you tell him "you know your right, but you still gotta leave". but be nice about it. in my entire 13 years bouncing i had to punch 1 guy and that was because he was about to hit me, i blocked it and reacted. i should have just taken him down to the ground but knocking him out in one punch felt better... lol seriously, i should have handled it better.

its funny, the guys i work with now use to play a game. they would get together and say "ok, find a guy in a white hat and kick him out", next guy says "why?" then they say "just because". the funny thing is they all tell me their stories of getting hit in the head with a bottle, needing stitches, getting stabbed, guns pulled on them, etc.... but me, the way i bounce, i have never been hit, stabbed, shot, or even threatened to be shot or stabbed. cause i treat them with respect even though they may not be respecting you. it kills their fire.

Excellent post. I was on a team for a year where I was rushing to back guys up all day long, because they had no "people skills". And once I would get a situation calmed down, some dumbass team member would show up and stir it up again!

So definitely, keeping things civil and low-key is the way to go. (But if you have a bunch of guys always showing up and starting shit, it might become a different scenario).

Personally, if I was working security today in a seedy part of town, I would check into hiring an off-duty guy to help out. (At least then if the cops have to show up, you'll have one of their guys already on your side). And, as Slat said, they can clear the lots, etc., outside. Just my .02
 
boss_ said:
Excellent post. I was on a team for a year where I was rushing to back guys up all day long, because they had no "people skills". And once I would get a situation calmed down, some dumbass team member would show up and stir it up again!

So definitely, keeping things civil and low-key is the way to go. (But if you have a bunch of guys always showing up and starting shit, it might become a different scenario).

Personally, if I was working security today in a seedy part of town, I would check into hiring an off-duty guy to help out. (At least then if the cops have to show up, you'll have one of their guys already on your side). And, as Slat said, they can clear the lots, etc., outside. Just my .02

you just contradicted yourself with this post, He is agreeing with me !!! and you called me an idiot when your read my post...

your a mess
 
wow this shit is deja vu i did a door for years when i was 20 and i dealt with people like this all the time...id always explain to them the deal and if they wouldnt comply with dress code or whatever then thats when id start being a "dick" and just not explaining myself anymore...some people dress like trash but it may be their first time out and they really dont know, so if you level with them then you just avoided a confrontation which is the name of the game with that job...now the ones who are just assholes looking to test u, do what u gotta do just be safe always have backup and neevr throw a first punch
 
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