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My anavar only cycle sucks! Need help on what I can add

winnydapoo

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Been on for a little over 3weeks and haven't gained a pound or any strength.. Been taking superclen so maybe I'm losing some fat but strength isn't there.. I took an Eq/Winny cycle before and had minor gyno from eq and lost hair from winny.. Would tren be safe for the hair and gyno? Could I use some test and run armidex throughout, would that be safe as far as gyno and the hair issue? Any suggestions? I read on anabolicreview that tren doesn't aromatise but people on the board here say it does.. Prob 15% bf, 196lbs and want to be around 200lbs and 7%bf..
 
I'm running 40mg of the china mans stuff.. 10 in morning, 20 before workout, 10 before bed.. I chew them and wash them down w/ water.. Believe I've got doesage and everything ok..
 
might want to include your diet too...are ya gettin plenty of protein and calories? taking creatine?
 
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Diets fairly good.. 250grams of protein a day, not sure on rest buy clean.. Oatmeal, tuna, steak, chicken, protein shakes, that sort of thing.. Little beer now and then(can't stop partying all together), I know its not good w/ an oral like anavar but oh well.. Low carbs at night, no cardio at the moment.. Would test be a mistake(even w/ armidex throughout) since I got slight gyno from a low dose of eq?
 
If I was already 3 weeks into a cycle with no results I'd probably add something that was fast acting such as anadrol, suspension, dianabol, or propinate. Also tren wouldn't hurt either.
 
I would up your dosage. I think china man's anavar is underdosed. I took 80mg/day of his stuff for 10 weeks. I gained about 15 lbs of LBM. (It wasn't a first cycle either).

Try increasing your dosage to AT LEAST 60mg a day and taking it with grapefruit juice. On my anavar only cycle, it took about 3 weeks before I really started to notice the weight gain and serious strength increases. Be sure to take extra protein and don't forget the creatine! It helps a lot with the anavar.

/ck
 
maybe you are restricting carbs and overal cals too much?

at least for me (but I have a fast metabolism) I can run non-aromatizing androgens with a higher carb diet than I can get away with when running stuff like test. Don't be scared to increase the cals a little...anavar or tren/winstrol have good nutrient partitioning effects.
 
hey Calkid, is there any good grapefruit extract pill I can take? I mean I'm gonna be taking d-bol 5 times a day and don't want to carry around a carton of grapefruit juice.
 
I don't know if there's a grapefruit extract pill you can take, but it doesn't take much grapefruit juice to do the trick. Try at least taking some grapefruit juice with your morning dose and the one before you work out. If you can't take it with all five doses, don't worry about it. And carrying around some grapefruit juice is no real big deal. I'm sure you carry around some water with you anyway.

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Don't expect alot of weight gain from Anavar, that's not what it's for. Hardness and some strength is what you'll get at low doses. And I've also heard that IP Anavar isn't as strong as others, so your 40mg may be only 30.
 
CalKid: Can you explain why grapefruit juice?

winnydapoo: btw, a minimum of 3 weeks is needed to see gains(strength or weught gain) on anavar. that's why it's said to run it longer than 6 weeks.
 
Cure said:
CalKid: Can you explain why grapefruit juice?

winnydapoo: btw, a minimum of 3 weeks is needed to see gains(strength or weught gain) on anavar. that's why it's said to run it longer than 6 weeks.
Yea he's right, I forgot to mention that. You won't see results from Anavar for at least 3 weeks.
 
cure:

Grapefruit juice helps immensely with the absorption of many oral drugs by decreasing the amount of an enzyme called CYP3A4 that is present in the small intestine.. However, some prescription medications have warnings about avoiding grapefruit juice because it may DECREASE the absorption of certain other drugs. Educate yourself on the drugs you're taking to know what the interactions are. Do a search on this board for more detailed information. You can also do a search on the internet.

Bottom line is, grapefruit juice will affect the absorption of your oral drugs. Do your research to find what drugs mix for you and which ones don't. Remember that the effects are individual, so you will need to find out how your body responds as well.

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Tren does NOT aromatize, and it is very potent. If you wan't to gain lots of weight, test is your best bet IMO. You just have to see what it does to your hair, but it will probably tend to accelerate MPB if you are prone to it. Test should always be taken with an anti e, preferably arimidex. If you add in 500 mg. of test per week, I promise you will grow and get stronger.
 
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