Please Scroll Down to See Forums Below
napsgear
genezapharmateuticals
domestic-supply
puritysourcelabs
UGL OZ
UGFREAK
napsgeargenezapharmateuticals domestic-supplypuritysourcelabsUGL OZUGFREAK

My Anavar cycle-diet-training

TipRat

New member
I am 27 years of age, been training for about 6 or 7 years.

I am 183cm and 93.3 kilos

I am not sure what my body fat percentage is but its mostly muscle :P

I am doing my first cycle which consists off a Anavar only cycle.

What I hope to achieve? Go gain some more strength, tone up lean up, make muscle harder.

I am going to the gym 5 days a week at the moment:

And at the moment my diet consists off :

Ingredients Protein carbs fat calories
2 scoops protein powder 25.6 0.8 0.4 111
1.5 cup milk 6.6 9.1 1.4 77
35g cereal 3.7 19.3 1.4 119
half a banana 0.9 18.2 0.2 71
1 teaspoon extra virgin olive oil 0 0 4.6 40
l-glutamine 5 g 36.8 47.4 8 418

2 scoops protein powder 25.6 0.8 0.4 111
1 teaspoon extra virgin olive oil 0 0 4.6 40
yoplait yogurt 9.6 13.8 0.1 96
35.2 14.6 5.1 247

150g chicken 46.5 0 5.4 248
2 pieces whole meal bread 5.4 23.4 1.8 143
small salad
51.9 23.4 7.2 391

2 scoops protein powder 25.6 0.8 0.4 111
3 tablespoons cottage cheese 7.5 2.3 1.5 55
1 teaspoon peanut butter 1.1 0.6 2.5 30
1 teaspoon flaxseed oil 0 0 5 44
34.2 3.7 9.4 240

2 whole eggs 12.5 1.2 10 149
7 egg whites 24.5 2.3 0 117
4 vita weats 2.6 13.6 1.8 87
half a banana 0.9 18.2 0.2 71
40.5 35.3 12 424

TRAINING

2 scoops protein powder 25.6 0.8 0.4 111
30g coopers home brew 1 0 15 0 56
25.6 15.8 0.4 167

150g chicken 46.5 0 5.4 248
2 pieces wholemeal bread 5.4 23.4 1.8 143
salad
51.9 23.4 7.2 391
Before bed
2 scoops protein powder 25.6 0.8 0.4 111

I would love to get people thoughts on this :
 
bro why do you wanna do a anavar only cycle? not recommended for a first cycle. you should go with a injectable test. where about in aus are you bro?
 
i am in sydney

and not into injectables. that is 1 reason why i have chosen anavar

at 70 mg a day (7 tablets) for 6 weeks
 
why you using so much prtein powder instead of natural protein like tuna,steak fich or chicken?
whats vita weats?and what milk u use?
for anyone that doesnt know,coopers is a mix of dextrose with maltodextrin
how much anavar u taking?and why did you chose this for your first cycle when there is so many cheaper options out there for the same effects?
do you even know how much prtein you need per pound of your body but from what ive calculated it pretty spot on and amount of cals intake sounds about right for your body intake.
good luck and see what others think of all this
 
TipRat said:
i am in sydney

and not into injectables. that is 1 reason why i have chosen anavar

at 70 mg a day (7 tablets) for 6 weeks

this is the most aussies iv seen here ever. if your serious about training and aas you should really "get into" injectables. dont expect much from the anavar only cycle bro.. but if you were to add it with injectable test.......
 
-I use so much protein power due to time, ….i use this as a supplement to save me some time…as I am busy
-Vita weats is a 9 grain whole meal snack.
- I use low fat shape milk
-I am taking 70mg of Anavar a day for 6 weeks
- I choose Anavar for many reasons, such as, I am not wanting to take injectables, and also Anavar works well with medications taking for hair loss such as proscar.
- I also don’t want to get BIG, that is not my goal, I want more strength and also lean up. Shrink my waist line at the same time.
 
tony56k said:
why you using so much prtein powder instead of natural protein like tuna,steak fich or chicken?
whats vita weats?and what milk u use?
for anyone that doesnt know,coopers is a mix of dextrose with maltodextrin
how much anavar u taking?and why did you chose this for your first cycle when there is so many cheaper options out there for the same effects?
do you even know how much prtein you need per pound of your body but from what ive calculated it pretty spot on and amount of cals intake sounds about right for your body intake.
good luck and see what others think of all this

your an aussie and havent heard of vita wheats?
 
TipRat said:
i am in sydney

and not into injectables. that is 1 reason why i have chosen anavar

at 70 mg a day (7 tablets) for 6 weeks

Well most will advise against it, but if you're going to more power to you.

Since your gains are gonna be slow and steady, run for 8 weeks. Have you considered PCT? Most profiles state anavar as only being mildly supressive, but it is still a factor. Clomid or possibly just a nat. test booster from weeks 7-10.

Remember var will mess up your cholesterol, make sure to get something to help liver, milk thistle etc.

Good luck
 
digit0x said:
Well most will advise against it, but if you're going to more power to you.

Since your gains are gonna be slow and steady, run for 8 weeks. Have you considered PCT? Most profiles state anavar as only being mildly supressive, but it is still a factor. Clomid or possibly just a nat. test booster from weeks 7-10.

Remember var will mess up your cholesterol, make sure to get something to help liver, milk thistle etc.

Good luck

clomid would be preffered and plenty of milk thistle
 
now i know what vita weats are.lol.sorry im a bit of a dumb ass.lol
do many of yous mix olive oil with milk and is it appropriate to do so?
sorry for the quesrtions but i wanna try get my diet up to scratch too.
so seeing that he has a hairloss issue then now i understand why he chose anavar, but i predict hes scared of needles too,
also champ what makes you think var is used to rip up?what makes you think you cant do it with test?
 
Mac173 said:
Is this the all aussie thread?

must be, i think i should take the anavar off his hands tho i dont think hes ready for aas yet.. i havent seen anavar around here since xmas, might have to make a quick trip to sydney
 
my seocnd cycle was anavar only, i changed the dose from 40-60mg a day for 5 weeks and i loved it, got stronger daily and looked very tone, var is high quality gear
 
xrsist,get a hold of the cat,he has plenty of var.
and whats wrong with nolva,arimidex,letrozole or femara for pct instead of clomid?
anyone got an answer about the oil with the milk? and does his diet look suitable for leaning?
 
tony56k said:
xrsist,get a hold of the cat,he has plenty of var.
and whats wrong with nolva,arimidex,letrozole or femara for pct instead of clomid?
anyone got an answer about the oil with the milk? and does his diet look suitable for leaning?
Letrozole is femara and adex and letro are both AI's.
No need to run two AI's during PCT and letro is not the best for PCT because of the high percentage of estrogen that it inhibits.
 
Orals only were very popular back int 60's, so at my age I have some insights.

Anavar will give you good strength gains, but not size.

It will help you hang onto muscle as you reduce the carbs and slim down.

It does raise your liver values, cholesterol, bp and PSA. Get off them after 8-10 weeks.
 
i will have a PCT.

And i am taking Milk Thistle, and also tribulus.

i do 20 min cardio before and after every trainign session.

thats 5 times a week.

i did soem reasarch on VAR and it seemed to be what i am lookign for...along with the hair issue and not wanting injectables.

as i said i am not after size...i am 93.3 kg and i dont wana to weight more then that
 
tony56k said:
xrsist,get a hold of the cat,he has plenty of var.
and whats wrong with nolva,arimidex,letrozole or femara for pct instead of clomid?
anyone got an answer about the oil with the milk? and does his diet look suitable for leaning?

bro nolva maybe but the others are best used for different purposes. clomid is tested and tried for pct.

InstantMuscle, what did you do for PCT?
 
what im saying though he can run either,letrozole,nolva or adex for pct,i didnt say both,
persoanlly i wouldnt run nolva or clomid,but in cases you got no choice
 
Mac173 said:
Letrozole is femara and adex and letro are both AI's.
No need to run two AI's during PCT and letro is not the best for PCT because of the high percentage of estrogen that it inhibits.

thanks bro, i couldnt be bothered explaining too tired. next he will want to know what an AI is.. im outa here boys catch yas later
 
tony56k said:
what im saying though he can run either,letrozole,nolva or adex for pct,i didnt say both,
persoanlly i wouldnt run nolva or clomid,but in cases you got no choice

:rolleyes:
 
champ i sure know the difference between all meds.
infact here a post i made up by gathering various info and putting it together and then you tell me whether or not you can use adex or letrozole:

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

I finally gathered all info about the advantages of arimidex and dissadvantages of nolva and clomid while on a cycle and for pct.
let us know what your opinions are.
lets just hope this topic doesnt accidentally get removed.
control that roid rage magic.lol

ARIMIDEX is a real anti-estrogen, unlike Clom & Nolva, which are SERMs. Adex slows the body's production of estrogen when you're doing things like Test or HCG that boot up both the androgens & the estrogens. In doing so, it cuts back on water retention & helps sculpt that cut look. By blocking estros, you should be safe from the over-aromatization that causes bitch tits (gynecomastia). But once you've got it, Adex cannot help get rid of it.

Arimidex shows great potential. Up to this point, drugs like Nolvadex and Proviron have been our weapons against excess estrogen. These drugs, especially in combination, do prove quite effective. But Arimidex appears able to do the job much more efficiently, and with less hassle. A single tablet daily (1 mg), the same dose use clinically, seems to be all one needs for an exceptional effect (some even report excellent results with only 0.25 mg daily). When used with strong, readily aromatizing androgens such as Dianabol or testosterone, gynecomastia and water retention can be effectively blocked. In combination with Propecia (finasteride), we have a great advance. With the one drug halting estrogen conversion and the other blocking 5-alpha reduction , related side effects can be effectively minimized. Here the strong androgen testosterone could theoretically provide incredible muscular growth, while at the same time being as tolerable as nandrolone. Additionally the quality of the muscle should be greater, the athlete appearing harder and much more defined without holding excess water.

While nolva and clomid are quite popular, they have several drawbacks. Firstly, both nolva and clomid show an affinity for increasing shbg. It should be noted that clomid raises levels of shbg more so than nolva. If you are not familiar with the effects of elevated shbg, let me help. When nolva and clomid increase lh and fsh, they stimulate more production of test in the testes. When shbg increases the test produced in the body tends to be bound test. As we know, this is detrimental to our goals. We want free test, which only occurs when levels of test are elevated, but shbg remains low.

Another drawback is that nolva and clomid are extremely hepatoxic. That makes them less than optimal for use as pct to a methyl compound. Combining a 3-5 week cycle of a methylated aas/ph/ps with a pct of 3-5 weeks of clomid and/or nolva would be very taxing on the liver.

Clomid also has another problem. It should only be used for a week at most. While it is superior at stimulating lh production, it also decreases sensitivity in the pituitary to Gnrh. This means that as use of clomid continues, the pituitary will produce less lh despite the increase in Gnrh.

Nolva's last drawback is due to its very nature. Since it only blocks estrogen receptors, it allows circulating estrogen to continue to exist. If used for pct of an aromatizing drug, levels of circulating estrogen would be greatly increased when nolva usage was discontinued. Again, this is a less than desirable characteristic, as one of our main goals was to limit estrogen induces sides.
After so many years of usage, it seems pretty clear that if Tamoxifen helps prevent the growth of the nipples, it also weakens the anabolic properties of steroids in a majority of bodybuilders. We are frequently said that this weakening effect is due to the anti-estrogenic action of Nolvadex. According to the fantasy, muscles require both testosterone and estrogens to grow at an optimal rate.

This belief is derived from the results of studies showing that without estrogens, testosterone alone possesses minimal anabolic properties. By increasing the density of androgen receptors, estrogens render the muscles much more sensitive to testosterone (1). This has been demonstrated in a very specific muscle called the levator ani. But this muscle does not reflect what happens in the muscles bodybuilders are interested in (2). Estrogens have even been shown to reduce muscle fiber size (3-4). I think this effect of estrogens is closer to what we experience on bodybuilders.

Another popular explanation of the weakening action of Nolvadex is provided by studies which have shown that it reduced the plasma level of IGF-1. I do not think this is a primary explanation.

Most lifters assume Nolvadex is a pure estrogen antagonist (which would mean it prevents estrogens from acting on their receptors). As far as bodybuilding is concerned, this assumption is very wrong as Nolvadex is both an estrogen receptor agonist and an antagonist. It all depends upon the tissues. Along with the nipples, on which Nolvadex acts mainly as an antagonist, we are also interested by its behaviour on skeletal muscles, on the liver and on the fat cells.

The problem with Nolvadex is it actually is catabolic, and I don't like the idea of running something that will cheat me of some of my gains.

Conclusion: if the introduction of Nolvadex 25 years ago was a brilliant idea, times have changed. Very effective anti-aromatase drugs (such as Letrozole or Anastrazole) have been introduced. They will fight gynecomastia, help prevent the anti-anabolic actions of estrogens, fight fat and water retention. They will also boost natural testosterone production far more effectively than Nolvadex. So, it is up to you to decide whether you wish impair your rate of progression with an outdated drug or move on to the 21st century.

After more than 25 years of intensive usage, it is my opinion that it is time to forget about Nolvadex. Why? First, because newer and more effective drugs have been developed. Second, because it seems obvious that Nolvadex impairs muscle growth.

best regards
tony

whats yous think about that?
 
Top Bottom