my 3rd crappy cycle ends now.

[marcu_s]

well.
this is day 18 in this cycle.
ends tomorrow.
angry as hell, been in a shitty mood all day and just want to scream how much i hate this fucking people who sell underdosed or fake shit to earn money, to fucking crap at my life, selling faked shit!

my3rd cycle this happens!
my first, shit.
my second, shit.
and this....guess what, SHIT!

IM ON 4-500MG TEST P a week, 60 mg ed.
no speciall strength whatsoever, no spec hornyness and no pump-all-day feeling.

went directly from 2500-2900 cals a day to 3600 a day, ofcourse i gained 7 kg in these almost three weeks....?

ive eaten and eaten, been bloated all time. fucking protein bloats me like hell.
360g a day for me, expensive shit down the drain.

i just want to make short cycles so i always choose test p, and that has been my curse.
i cant be imun to the shit!

ive also since day one till 2 days ago taken 40mg andriol.
if i just go cold turkey on the stuff will i be shut down?

now i just want to cut my belly,7 kgs. get into shape.
and then ill buy test e instead whit some turinabol as a kickstart.

man i hate this!

 

[goal245]

Well if its fake then you wont be shut down

 

[ArmaniAK47]

Hey man.. I'm really sorry to hear that.. I have been ripped off before as well..

60mg of Test prop should be fucking noticeable....

I notice when I take 10mg of Dbol a day!

Hope you get a better stash of drugs.

 

[HAYEZ]

test doesnt give me any strength
day 18 is kinda premature to be calling it quits over fake

 

[ArmaniAK47]

test doesnt give me any strength
day 18 is kinda premature to be calling it quits over fake

idk hayez.. you think 18 days is still early?

He's using prop..

 

[HAYEZ]

idk hayez.. you think 18 days is still early?

He's using prop..

its just shy over 2 weeks...id give it atleast 4 weeks to be saying bunk..400 test and if he is talking about anadrol maybe hes getting some estrogen sides which is killing his libido.. 7kg is what 15lbs in 2 weeks?

 

[AMGETR]

Wait 4 weeks total and see results... Or else you either ought fake stuff, or your diet sucks.

 

[ArmaniAK47]

its just shy over 2 weeks...id give it atleast 4 weeks to be saying bunk..400 test and if he is talking about anadrol maybe hes getting some estrogen sides which is killing his libido.. 7kg is what 15lbs in 2 weeks?

Good point.. 15 pounds..

idk.

 

[HAYEZ]

Good point.. 15 pounds..

idk.

he may be making gains and doesnt even know...
1000 calories extra a day x 18 days is 18000 calories / 3000 calories is only 6 pounds of fat if he didnt even burn anything over his maintnance..mix with a little bloat..something is happening to get 15 lbs in that time other then food..we assume hes hitting the gym hard

 

[ArmaniAK47]

True.. this is a tricky call to make...

I think I would feel awesome on 60mg of prop a day.. plus the intestine absorbed oral test Andriol...

He has gained more than the fat now that you point that out... even with water retention?

And yet... Although I havnt used test prop by itself (only in Andropen 275).. I feel that from that and the andriol he would feel great?

 

[HAYEZ]

True.. this is a tricky call to make...

I think I would feel awesome on 60mg of prop a day.. plus the intestine absorbed oral test Andriol...

He has gained more than the fat now that you point that out... even with water retention?

And yet... Although I havnt used test prop by itself (only in Andropen 275).. I feel that from that and the andriol he would feel great?

with his spelling i thought he misspelled anadrol as andriol...so my thoughts are kinda pointless now

 

[ArmaniAK47]

Well.. idk. you did shine some light on the weight thing.. I had overlooked that..

maybe he was ripped off?

maybe its just low dose..

 

[OMEGA]

Well if its fake then you wont be shut down

see good in that hes right lol

 

[OMEGA]

ifs his dbol is lagit he should have gotten alot of strength and that high that comes from dbol


too bad bro Join the source check and ONLY find the true best ones they usually go "private" though eventually

also look at pics and packaging , Stay away form photo copied lazer ink jet labels, try to veer toward holograms, and legit packaging

 

[HAYEZ]

ifs his dbol is lagit he should have gotten alot of strength and that high that comes from dbol


too bad bro Join the source check and ONLY find the true best ones they usually go "private" though eventually

also look at pics and packaging , Stay away form photo copied lazer ink jet labels, try to veer toward holograms, and legit packaging

i have to disagree with ya...the best aas i get is unlabled....




lol..since i do make it myself...

im actually brewing some tren right now as i type..and made cyp yesterday! that was a first time run for the cyp

 

[OMEGA]

lol darn you

 

[thelion2005]

Real test p is excellent. I was doing 250 each Thursday am and Sunday pm.
The first sign was crazy increased strength and oily scalp. I took 0.5 adex same time.
And it just kept going for 10 weeks.
You must have something wrong with the product.

 

[OMEGA]

You must have something wrong with the product.

exactly

 

[marcu_s]

so what should i do?
i live in sweden so the source check is not ging to happen unless they ship overseas, but that would be a dumb move for me anyways.
the andriol gave me crazy pumps it did, but the test i dont know.

 

[marcu_s]

he may be making gains and doesnt even know...
1000 calories extra a day x 18 days is 18000 calories / 3000 calories is only 6 pounds of fat if he didnt even burn anything over his maintnance..mix with a little bloat..something is happening to get 15 lbs in that time other then food..we assume hes hitting the gym hard

i am hitting the gym hard.
and i also counted it it out that way and would still not get it, how i could gain that much.

is 0.5 kg muscle not that noticible?

i will continue if i feel i should.

keep in mind that i went straight from eating 2700cals a day to 3600 cals, cant that be a reason i gained that much, if it cant,, i will continue.........but need advice

 

[OMEGA]

source check distinguishes between usa and EU places

 

[marcu_s]

so what should i do, end this thing, do some nolva? cause of the litlle andriol i have taken
or continue for a week more and hope for the best?

 

[marcu_s]

bump

 

[moya]

if you gained 15 lbs your gear is obviously doing somthing because the increase in your diet is not enough for that to happen...

 

[perryscoon]

Short cycles are garbage.

 

[marcu_s]

if you gained 15 lbs your gear is obviously doing somthing because the increase in your diet is not enough for that to happen...

i know, thats why im a bit confused.
what is a good strength gain for under just 3 weeks?

i gained 11 pounds over a week on the incline bench.
and also gained about the same on 2 exercises on my legs.
but since ive been on a diet i thought it could as much be just natural gaining.

but 15 pounds is pretty much i know.

 

[HAYEZ]

What kind of gains do you expect in 2 weeks? Lol seems to me things are going well

 

[marcu_s]

What kind of gains do you expect in 2 weeks? Lol seems to me things are going well

ill go for 1 more week and see how it goes.

to be honest, i HAVE everyday looked myself in the mirror to see something new.
i thought that that when everybody says strenght throu the roof, they mean like 15-20 pounds or something, not just 10 or something=(

i have got little bigger arms, maybe little thicker back and more bigger trapz, legs have got a bit wider.
but i thought it was all from the water ive gained after eating all the food.

i guess i have to be patient.

i just want to be a beast! (but i seem small still)
if i would give it a week and not look myself in the mirror, will i see result next monday?
il post some pics on sunday.

i was on a cut diet for almost 16 weeks (i was cheating alot thou)
couldnt that strength gain ive got comed from my rebound from that?

 

[goin on 4T]

Get a blood test that will tell you if its fake!