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My 2 week cycle...
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I personally am not a fan of short cycles myself but I will be interested to hear how it goes..keep us posted
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The_Eviscerator
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Parabola said:
I had a slew of two weekers planned, but after reading Nelson's thoughts and evaluating my own personal experience, I decided to scrap that plan and go with three week cycles. The only difference between my plan and the one Nelson Montana explained is that I will use short acting esters throughout the entire cycle, while frontloading primobolan in the first 10 days. In essence, it will be the equivalent of a 4 week cycle by the time all of the primo finally esterfies.
That plan sounds like a one way ticket to some serious gyno.
The concept of a short cycle is NOT to take more gear in less amount of time! You may not be as suppressed but they'll be more aromatization. Moderate "3 weekers" are best.
The concept of a short cycle is NOT to take more gear in less amount of time! You may not be as suppressed but they'll be more aromatization. Moderate "3 weekers" are best.
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Nelson Montana said:
Which plan were you referring to? Mine or parabola's?
Sounds good to me bro but take the suspension in two shots per day since the half life is very very short.
You could extend the cycle to three weeks if you like.
I would take some arimidex at 1 pill per day to take care of SOME of the estrogen...or at least take 20 of nolva per day.
Actually I would prefer that you use d-bol/tren.
Tren at 50 per day and d-bol at 30 per day for two-three weeks would be a good one.
RG
You could extend the cycle to three weeks if you like.
I would take some arimidex at 1 pill per day to take care of SOME of the estrogen...or at least take 20 of nolva per day.
Actually I would prefer that you use d-bol/tren.
Tren at 50 per day and d-bol at 30 per day for two-three weeks would be a good one.
RG
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gunner44
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Nelson Montana said:
I would have to disagree. If you plan to do a 2 week cycle, you should hit it HARD.
Definately harder than you would normally do on a typical cycle. How hard depends on your experience with longer cycles.
2 weekers at "moderate" dosages are a waste of time. You gotta hit it hard when on for only 14 days.
As far as 3 weekers , well at that point the odds of more significant HPTA suppression are against you. But each person will respond differently. Still think that short cycles need to be more "intense" than traditional 8-12 cycles. This is a bit tricky, but if you know how to manage estrogen, then you are in a position to make good gains.
My experience in this area is limited at this point, but I actually do HAVE some basis for my opinions.
Exiserator: I was referring to parabolans.
gunner: You caught me. I have no basis whatsoever for my opinions. I have everyone fooled. All the editors at the magazines. George at ELite. Dan Duchaine. Charles Poliquin. Dave Draper. Eric Serrano. The thousands of readers around the world. I think they should all listen to you from now on. AFter all. You take steroids and post on the internet. Credentials like that are hard to come by.
gunner: You caught me. I have no basis whatsoever for my opinions. I have everyone fooled. All the editors at the magazines. George at ELite. Dan Duchaine. Charles Poliquin. Dave Draper. Eric Serrano. The thousands of readers around the world. I think they should all listen to you from now on. AFter all. You take steroids and post on the internet. Credentials like that are hard to come by.
Lift Chief
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Nelson Montana said:
Nelson- you may have been asked this 1000 times already- if so, i apologize: would you endorse the idea of a 3 week cycle of moderate intensity with short instead of long lasting esters? I know this isn't exactly as you plan it, but do you think something like this would work fairly well?
Actually, I don't think the length of the esters matters that much. It's more a matter of the dosage and the anabolc/androgenic ratio. With my proposed "perfect cycle" there would be some residue half life after the end of the third week, but the total amount won't be enough for much further growth. It can almost be considered a "taper." The problem is, I realize Primoboln is hard to come by so some improvising is in order.
The bottom line is, a gain of more than 10 pounds is a waste because you can't hold on to more than that anyway. And make sure to finish the cycle with as low an androgenic stack as possible. (Hard to do without primo. EQ is an option but personally, I'm not comfortable with it.)
I'm not really up on conterfiet labs but it's stange that more of them don't make methenolone (Primo). I bet it would be a big seller. I heard that the IP primo was worthless.
The bottom line is, a gain of more than 10 pounds is a waste because you can't hold on to more than that anyway. And make sure to finish the cycle with as low an androgenic stack as possible. (Hard to do without primo. EQ is an option but personally, I'm not comfortable with it.)
I'm not really up on conterfiet labs but it's stange that more of them don't make methenolone (Primo). I bet it would be a big seller. I heard that the IP primo was worthless.
Lift Chief
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Nelson Montana said:
I've heard that the raw materials for primo are expensive and/or hard to come by. Thanks for the reply nelson.
gunner44
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Nelson Montana said:
I wasnt implying that you had no experience, only that I did, albeit limited at this point.
A bit touchy for a guru Nelson. Sorry if I dont agree with you out of hand, but like you said " You take steroids and post on the internet. Credentials like that are hard to come by."
gunner:Maybe I was being a bit touchy. (I had an overload of ball-breakers getting on my case yesterday). I thought you meant that you had a basis for your opinion and I didn't. Please accept my apology.
PS: "Guru"? I'm not really comfortable with that term.
PS: "Guru"? I'm not really comfortable with that term.
The_Eviscerator
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Nelson Montana said:
Quite the contrary, R$oC has a nice primo product and plans to make more. It sells out almost immediately so get it while it is hot.
chanmanfoo
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i agree with nelson. on a two or three week cycle you could possibly put on twenty pounds (would take a powerful stack) but your cycle is not long enough to maintain this sort of abrupt growth. i think with a two week on four off regimen, 5 solid lbs per cycle is attainable and very reasonable. patience is a virtue.
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gunner44
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Nelson: No need to apologize to me at all. I totally understand the frustration you must deal with.
Maybe "crazy guru" or "sadistic guru"
I totally agree with you on short cycles, but I tend to lean towards the 2 week side. Can you beleive it , a new debate already rages within the short cycle community, while the masses are still thumbing their noses at the Idea.
I go today for blood work. 2 weeks post cycle on my 2 weeker. If things look good, I will seriously consider pushing 3 weeks later on to see how I recover.
WHo knows, I might be able to go 3 weeks as you recommend with minimal inhibition,but I want to take my time and check out this 2 week theory first. Hell, I can always stay on for another 7 days ! LOL
In the beginning, I used to think in terms of weeks and months, now only days.
I will keep you posted on my blood work. I would value your opinion.
Maybe "crazy guru" or "sadistic guru"
I totally agree with you on short cycles, but I tend to lean towards the 2 week side. Can you beleive it , a new debate already rages within the short cycle community, while the masses are still thumbing their noses at the Idea.
I go today for blood work. 2 weeks post cycle on my 2 weeker. If things look good, I will seriously consider pushing 3 weeks later on to see how I recover.
WHo knows, I might be able to go 3 weeks as you recommend with minimal inhibition,but I want to take my time and check out this 2 week theory first. Hell, I can always stay on for another 7 days ! LOL
In the beginning, I used to think in terms of weeks and months, now only days.
I will keep you posted on my blood work. I would value your opinion.
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