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[6(SIC)6]

Welsh if you cant express yourself intelligently then piss off no-one wants to listen to your childish posts.

No-ones up al's ass, he's just got intelligence about him and expresses himself as such without resorting to 'slipknot are gothic' and crap like you post.



I think Pauls an ALRIGHT bassist, he doesn't do a bad job on 'scissors', when the bass starts in that it sets the scene for me and makes it really scary even though its a very simple riff. The same with 'gently', thats done really well and it sounds way cool. Other than that i agree he could be better but as you guys agree on, SlipKnot is a 9 piece band so it would be hard to for the bass to make more of an impression.

 

[Jitsuka]

Welsh, (Sic) posted examples of gothic music a few pages back. To be honest im not gonna bothering to argue with you on this, you abandoned the "Slipknot are nu-metal" for "Slipknot are gothic." and people who know what gothic music is have pointed out examples to you. If you cant argue your points in English without being a tit, piss off.

And why am i up Al's ass? Where the fuck does that come from??


And does anybody have any news on Metallicas latest album? Is Hetfield out of rehab yet, and any dates for its appearance?

 

[Welsh power house]

No, i have always been told that slipknot are nu metal and so thats why i said that, just because you say they are'nt does not make them anything else. Everyone who i talk to about them has said that they fall under nu metal.

I said you were up al's ass because a few pages back he came on here and started talking trash to you, sic, luicifer...
But you have suddenly changed your tone to him.
It looks this way to me.
You started licking ass on this page.

I think if you asked most people that they would agree that slipknot are both gothic and shit.
Any way, dont bring up shit like:
'you dropped the whole slipknot are nu metal'

Did I? like fuck.

When sic dropped the whole:
'slipknot are more talented than metallica'

clearly i am talking more sense than people who believe that these freaks are a better/more musically talented band than one of the all time greats, 80's or 90's, its really irrelevant. Like the 90's material or not, they have clearly out classed slipknot.

 

[AlCunt]

Hetfield is our of rehab, but they have no bassist, as Mike Inez (Ex- Alice in Chains) had to pull out of the recording process. So their management company approached Jason newstead to see if he would play bass for them.

I think this is a bad idea. While i doubt that there is any bad blood between the two camps, i dont think you should go back to something you walked out of. And no disrespect to Jason, he's a good bassist, but there are better session playes out there than him that would kill to play with metallica.

 

[Jitsuka]

Everyone who i talk to about them has said that they fall under nu metal.

Oh yeah so you never siad that people told you Slipknot was gothic music then? If EVERYBODY tells you theyre nu-metal then why do you argue theyre gothic?

Welsh, i think the thing here with nu-metal is that there are two deffinitions of nu-metal ive realised recently. One is the deffinition of nu-metal that i use which is bands like Linkin Park and Downer. Theyre not overly heavy. Now i think the problem is that there is another deffinition of nui-metal which is anything that doesnt easily fit into an existing category already ie Slipknot. Kerrangs site DOES list them as nu-metal, saying nu-metal is anything they cant easily classify, though other sites have the deffinition that i use, so unfortunately until the music reporters get off their asses and decide which is which there wont be an answer.

I said you were up al's ass because a few pages back he came on here and started talking trash to you, sic, luicifer...
But you have suddenly changed your tone to him.
It looks this way to me.
You started licking ass on this page.

Yeah as you said he came in and started talking trash to the 'Knot fans so why should i be civil to somebody that insults me? But when Alcunt put up his views about Paul, his own opinion without saying "Paul is shit i am right" and without insulting anybody who likes Slipknot, why the fuck shouldnt i reply in the same manner?

Treat others as you would be treated yourself.

I think if you asked most people that they would agree that slipknot are both gothic and shit.

Gothic no, not if they know what theyre talking about. And besides youve already stated that EVERYBODY you asked said they were nu-metal, so decide which one you want to go for and then post it.

clearly i am talking more sense than people who believe that these freaks are a better/more musically talented band than one of the all time greats, 80's or 90's, its really irrelevant. Like the 90's material or not, they have clearly out classed slipknot.

But this is a persopal favorite of your Welsh, opinion. Now ive already said that i believe that Slipknot dont have as much talent as Metallica. I worked night shift with a bunch of rap and R'n'B fans who believe that it takes more talent to produce an Rap/R'nB album than a metal album. the example i used was Metallica, and pointed out how Metallica have shit loads more talent than the stuff they listened to, but they werent convinced. If they dont like metal they wont see the talent as easily as if they did. Similarily if you like metal but not really heavy stuff you will find it very hard to appreaciate the talent Slipknot has.

 

[6(SIC)6]

When sic dropped the whole:
'slipknot are more talented than metallica'

I never said that once.

 

[Welsh power house]

Oh yeah so you never siad that people told you Slipknot was gothic music then? If EVERYBODY tells you theyre nu-metal then why do you argue theyre gothic?

Ummmm, around here nu metal is considered gothic music.
I cant be arsed to continue the same old nu metal banter.
Nu metal is fucking shit.

You say some fucked up shit. I can recognize talented bands, regardless of stlyes and how they are catagorized by a magazine.
For example elton john is extremely talented but i hate his stuff, but appreciate his musicall talents. You say that some r n b guys say that the music they listen to takes more talent than say metallica...Well, we all know thats bullshit because alot of them dont write their songs and certainly dont write thier music, since most dont even play guitars/bass/drums...sure usher has a good voice, but is he as talented as slash or richie sambora...uhh, in my books, no.

Slipknot are nothing more than a shouty, untalented mess of 9 guys thrown together to profit a record label that auditioned them, gave them a gimmick that they new teen agers and the whole nu metal scene would go nuts about.

Dont tell me to piss off because you dont like how i put my points of veiw or anger on here, i started this thread, have been here from the start, you cant show up half way through an argument and tell me to piss off.

 

[6(SIC)6]

Watch me Dickhead.

 

[Jitsuka]

sure usher has a good voice, but is he as talented as slash or richie sambora.

I will state here that i dont know who usher is, so im assuming theyre a rapper/R'n'B' artist. The people i talked about would believe that usher had more talent than Slash, provided usher is a decent artist of course. They could listen to Slash's pieces and then state that anybody can learn to play a guitar, and learning to play it badly ie in a heavy/rock band is even easier. The arguement that learning to rhyme is even easier was lost on them. They believed that G n R were shit, couldnt play and couldnt sing. Same with any rock/metal band.

You said they were put togetehr by a record label to make them a profit. Why would any record label sign 9 people into a band who they then have to pay, thereby reducing the profits. Then why would they have said band play music that even if they became as massive as they did, i believe theyre (Roadruner?) highest grossing band, are a minority band, and will never make as much money as other main stream bands? Now although i beleive that Slipknot toned down and polished iowa more than Slipknot, hence i like the first album more, they could of toned it down a lot more, getting money from the original fan base, but the they would pull in a shit load more fans as well.

 

[AlCunt]

Hey chill everybody!
lets all listen to some nice relaxing ska... yeah right

I agree that slipknot did tone down Iowa, but not to the degree that would have been seen as ultra comercial. I respect the for that. having seen such a huge explosion in thier fanbase, they could have just as easily made a more mainstream album, just like bands such as green day did (see warning). But they diddnt. Ill give them that