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Murderer Sentenced to Only 7 Years

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This happened about 5 miles from where I live. This country is starting to piss me off.

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Skateboard killer gets 7½-year term

By Ian Ith
Seattle Times staff reporter




Despite his plea for leniency and a promise to straighten up his life, a 23-year-old man was sentenced yesterday to 7-½ years in prison for beating a man to death with a skateboard last spring in Seattle's University District.

It could have been a lot worse for Timothy R. Strano.

In receiving his sentence for first-degree manslaughter, Strano joins only a handful of recent killers statewide who will gain years of freedom thanks to a controversial state Supreme Court ruling last year that barred them from being charged with second-degree murder.

And the state Legislature's passage this week of a bill fixing the loophole won't matter.

It's a situation that was hard to fathom yesterday for an emotional crowd of family and friends of the man Strano killed, Demetri Andrews, as they gathered in King County Superior Court to eulogize and ask for justice.

"I feel my son has been murdered twice — once by Mr. Strano and once by the justice system," said Andrews' tearful mother, Rothopi Andrews. "To me, this is a travesty of justice."

Strano was originally charged with second-degree murder in the April slaying of Andrews, a real-estate agent, Mercer Island High School graduate, and father of a two sons in a tight Greek-American family.

Strano struck Andrews over the head with his skateboard during an altercation on University Way Northeast.

Strano and another skateboarder had apparently cut off Andrews as he was driving, and Andrews got out of his car to confront the young men. Andrews died two days later, a day shy of his 34th birthday.

Felony-murder ruling


In October, while the case against Strano was pending, the state Supreme Court ruled that state law, as written, doesn't allow second-degree felony-murder charges against people who commit assaults that end in the death of the victim.

The ruling threatened to overturn hundreds of murder cases statewide. The Legislature vowed to fix the problem but didn't have the chance until the session now under way. Strano's prosecutors said they had no choice but to reduce the charge to manslaughter. Because of the timing, they could not pursue a felony-murder charge against him.

His right to a speedy trial meant they only had until Jan. 6 to bring him to trial. Instead of a sentence of 10 to 18 years for murder, Strano faced between 6-½ and 8-½ years.

"We knew there was no way this law would be fixed by Jan. 6, so he pleaded guilty to the highest charge available at the time," said deputy prosecutor Steve Fogg.

"The family (of Andrews) doesn't understand it, and they don't understand it because it doesn't make sense. The timing of this guy's case happened to fall at the time when this misguided decision was on the books. And there was nothing anybody could do about it."

Bill passed to fix loophole


The bill fixing the Supreme Court ruling was passed by the Senate on Jan. 29 and by the House on Wednesday. Gov. Gary Locke has said it will be the first bill he signs this session, sometime in the coming weeks.

But in the meantime, there is so far at least one other killer besides Strano who benefited from the timing.

In Pierce County Superior Court in Tacoma on Thursday, Vaughn Perry Radford, 35, who fatally stabbed a 68-year-old man last May in University Place, was sentenced to 6-½ years behind bars for first-degree manslaughter instead of facing many more years had his original murder charge stood.

It's unclear how many others statewide have also benefited.

In the Seattle courtroom yesterday, Andrews' family told of the beloved father, son, brother and lifelong friend and wondered how the sentence Strano faced could be enough for taking Andrews' life.

"Every day I feel him with me, but he isn't here," said his 29-year-old brother, Vasili Andrews.

Strano spent the hearing with his head bowed, shuffling uncomfortably in his red jail clothes. His attorney asked the judge to give him four years behind bars.

In his first public comments about the crime, Strano said he regretted that Andrews died, but he said he never meant anything other than to stop Andrews from coming at Strano's fellow skater.

"I really did just want Mr. Andrews to get back in his car and for us to be left alone," Strano said. "I just hope one day people will see my true character and forgive me for my ignorance. I'm truly sorry."
 
FUCK THAT, THE DUDE FUCKING KILLED A MAN. HE ONLY GETS 7 YEARS. MEANWHILE PEOPLE WHO ARE IN JAIL WHO DO NOT NEED TO EVEN BE IN JAIL ARE GETTING SHIT LIKE 20 YEARS.

YOU WOULD AGREE WITH THE FUCKING JUDGE WOUDLNT YOU!!! MOST MORONS WOULD.





KAYNE
 
supernav said:
i agree with the judge.

Not like the kid is a murderer. He was just out skateboarding. Somehow i don't think the victim came out of his car (jesus, it was just a cut-off, he didn't even touch his car) and said "excuse me, but please don't do that". Road rage combatants are usually pissed and violent when they get out of their vehicles, so i'm gonna assume the victim was in a stage of rage these "kids" cut him off.

So i'm gonna also assume, a fight ensued, and every man had to do whatever they could to protect themselves from getting killed. And this victim wound up being the loser. It easily could've been the kid getting killed, if the victim was the one who got ahold of the skateboard.

I drive carefully, but one day somehow may get pissed at me, and get out of their car. And if it comes down to it, i'll do whatever i can to protect myself and my loved ones. And if that means the other person dying, than it's better him than me.

It's kill or be killed. Personally, i'd rather be tried by 12, then carried by 7.

-= nav =-


Fact is...the kid is a murderer. Everything else you said is nothing but creative speculation.
 
Testosterone boy said:



Fact is...the kid is a murderer. Everything else you said is nothing but creative speculation.

YA KNOW, I NVR THOUGHT I WOULD SAY THIS, BUT I JUST GAINED A LITTLE RESPECT FOR YOU.



KAYNE
 
i think supernavs post kind of coincides with highintensitys post, granted people should not be fighting in the streets, but look at HI's situation, some guy gets wild(granted he is drunk) but now HI is looking at charges, now the drunk is a victim. this in no way excuses what the skater did but we were not there, but what if the guy in the car was really trying to fight with two guys. what if the guy punched him and killed him?

im not agreeing or disagreeing with anybody or casting judgement, i just think supernavs post was interperated wrong.
 
FIGHTING IS A FUCKING FACT OF LIFE!!! PERIOD!!! I HAVE BEEN IN WELL OVER 100 FIGHTS IN MY LIFE. HAVE I EVER KILLED ANYONE IN ONE OF THOSE FIGHTS??? NOPE!!! I COULD HAVE, BUT I DIDNT. IF I WOULD HAVE, I WOULD EXPECT TO GO TO JAIL FOR MORE THAN FUCKING 7 YEARS!!!


THIS SYSTEM IS FUCKED....I PERSONALLY KNOW MORE THAN ONE PERSON WHO SHOULD NOT EVEN BE IN JAIL YET RECEIVED 30 YEARS IN JAIL IN HIS FIRST TRIAL. THE SENTIMENT THAT HE SHOULDNT BE IN JAIL WAS EVEN ECHOED BY THE JUDGE IN HIS SECOND TRIAL. HE DIDNT KILL ANYONE. HE DIDNT HURT ANYONE. FUCK, THIS FUCKING GUY KILLS SOMEONE AND YOU MOHTER FUCKERS ARE TRYING TO JUSTIFY IT CUZ THE FUCKING GUY WHOM HE KILLED WANTED TO FIGHT HIM!!!

WE DONT KNOW WHAT HAPPENED. THE FUCKING SKATEBOARDERS COULD HAVE STOPPED HIM ON PURPOSE TO FUCK WITH HIM BUT AFTER THEY KILLED HIM, COME UP WITH THE STORY THAT THEY ACCIDENTALLY CUT HIM OFF AND THE GUY GOT OUT OF HIS CAR!!!

WE DONT KNOW SHIT SO DONT FUCKING ASSUME SHIT!!! ASSUMPTION IS THE MOTHER OF ALL FUCKUPS!!!






KAYNE
 
KAYNE said:


THIS SYSTEM IS FUCKED....I PERSONALLY KNOW MORE THAN ONE PERSON WHO SHOULD NOT EVEN BE IN JAIL YET RECEIVED 30 YEARS IN JAIL IN HIS FIRST TRIAL.

KAYNE

It's very very rare that someone goes to jail/prison for absolutely nothing....

Unless you're talking about your personal opinion, like drug or DUI conviction shouldn't get heavy sentences. In which case I don't really agree with you.

Just my .02 pesos.
 
CODE

I'M TALKING ABOUT SOMEONE WHO BROKE THE LAW, YES. HE SHOULD HAVE WENT TO JAIL. BUT THIS GUY HAD A PERFECT RECORD. HE HAS NVR BEEN IN TROUBLE FOR ANYTHING. HE WAS DEAN'S LIST IN COLLEGE. HE SOLD DRUGS, GOT CAUGHT. THE JUDGE SENTENCED HIM TO 30 YEARS IN HIS FIRST TRIAL. IT GOT OVERTURNED THEN HE COPPED OUT TO 20 CUZ THE D.A. WANTED 30 AGAIN. HE SHOULDNT EVEN BE IN JAIL. HE HAS BEEN IN FOR 5 YEARS ALREADY.

I WAS READING ABOUT A GUY WHO KILLED HIS WIFE IN THE MIDDLE OF S.CARROLTON AVENUE DOWN HERE. THIS IS A MAJOR STREET IN NEW ORLEANS. HE DID IT IN FROM OF DOZENS OF WITNESSES. HIS RECORD IS LONGER THAN MY DICK. HE STABBED HER 70 TIMES. HE SERVED 10 YEARS IN JAIL AND NOW HE IS OUT.

THIS FUCKING GUY KILLS, TAKES THE LIFE OF, SOMEONE WITH A FUCKING SKATEBOARD. MORE THAN LIKELY JUST TO BE AN IDIOT. YET HE ONLY GETS 7 YEARS IN JAIL. IF THAT IS STATE TIME, HE ONLY HAS TO DO 3.5 YEARS. IF THAT IS FED TIME, HE HAS TO DO 85% OF 7 YEARS.


KAYNE
 
supernav said:
i agree with the judge.

Not like the kid is a murderer. He was just out skateboarding. Somehow i don't think the victim came out of his car (jesus, it was just a cut-off, he didn't even touch his car) and said "excuse me, but please don't do that". Road rage combatants are usually pissed and violent when they get out of their vehicles, so i'm gonna assume the victim was in a stage of rage these "kids" cut him off.

-= nav =-


Yup. Its 'probable' that there was some self defense in this case.

Not only that, but assaults that accidentally end in murder are usually classified as voluntary manslaughter anyway (to my knowledge at least). murder involves intent to kill. Hitting someone who is charging you once in the head with a weapon probably isn't intent to murder.
 
NORD

WE DONT KNOW THE DETAILS OF THE CASE. ONLY WHAT WAS PRINTED.

IT IS VERY HARD TO PROVE SELF DEFENSE. ONLY 1% OF CASES ARE SELF DEFENSE. AND ONLY 10% OF THEM ACTUALLY BE FOUND TO BE IN SELF DEFENSE.

A SIMPLE FIGHT IMO DOESNT WARRANT KILLING SOMEONE WITH A SKATEBOARD. USUALLY, I WOULD BE IN AGREEMENT WITH YOU BUT I HAVE EXPERIENCED THIS SYSTEM PERSONALLY THEREFORE I AM IN DISAGREEMENT WITH YALL ON THIS ONE (WITH THE INFO PROVIDED).




KAYNE
 
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