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hornhunter

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I would like some good advise from some experienced guys. I tried to start my first cycle ab250out a week ago this is my first so I dont want to go all out just enough to see how my body reacts. I was going to do 4 weeks of DBol at 50 mgs a week injected with 250 mgs of enth for about 6 weeks but had a bad experience with the injection I guess I got it under the skin or something because I injected a week ago and my leg is still killing me and still hard and hot but it seems to be getting better. I have been told that this is normal with QV ent. If I inject into the quad should I use a smaller needle than a 22 to help prevent the previous results cause my leg hurt so bad that I couldnt work out, and could not work because Iam up and down a ladder everyday at least 4 to 5 times a day. My question is can I inject 1/2 cc of test with 1cc of dbol twice a week and get the same results because ive been told that loading test with dbol will help the test get absorbed and will help the previous problem. My next question is it possible that I have created a blood clot in my leg. For my second cycle I have thought about doing winny, eq, and anavar with a lot of cardio.
 
bro only 6 weeks on ent is not enuf time for the body...

also i only inject 25's in anything but the ass...23 in the quad isn't too bad...just IMO...
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u need to do more searching and learning be4 injecting stuff IMHO....
 
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Man I appreciate your advise but I have read every profile that i can get my hands on and every site I can find on injections I did not start with tabs because Iam on a budget and cant afford to be wagging a pharmacy all over the state, this way i can inject once or twice a week andyou are right 6 weeks is not long enough i ment 8 weeks, you say i need more experience before injecting how do you get it without doing it. All of you guys are full of great advice and it is appreciated.
 
Its not the guage of the needle that will cause the pain. Its the depth of the shot. 23g is fine. How long is the needle your are injecting with?

You might want to look up Filtering your enth or baking it. Some ppl like to do it. I cant help you out there on that because i never had to do it. Try to research that.

Some ppl have a really bad time w/ quad injections some dont? I have one friend who love it..Never give him a prob. Another friend who will only do Glute shots or Delt shots
 
- don't inject liquid dbol
- 8 wks plus of enanthate
- 5/8 25g needle will work fine except the ass
- dbol dosage should be lowered since this is your first cycle
-QV enanthate has kept me sore for a week + especially the quad
-heat it or filter it to reduce the pain
-no you don't have a blood clot bro but good luck with everything.
 
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Pimp daddy:
The dosage that I was refering to on Dbol was 50mgs a week I acquired some 25mg/ dbol because I know it is very hepatoxic especiall for a first time user so should I still lower the dosage.
 
Umm..50mgs of dbol a week. most ppl take 20-40mg a day.
D-bol has a 8hour half life. After 2 days of not taking dbol the levels have droped so much it is like starting over very day.

Dont inject liquid d-bol. Use caps fill them up and slam them down. You will get much much better results from doing that then injecting that.
 
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Do you have to use caps why cant I just add it to some water and drink it down and if not where do we get caps or can you dump out some caps with asp or vitamins and use those.
 
don't know about drinking dbol, I'm using the tabs...

But to answer your question, I was browsing over at pumpnpose.com and they sell empty capsules...
 
You can shoot it down w/ some juice on an empty stomach. It tastes like shit..so use juice.

Caps just get it right in to your stomache. You cant store it in the caps you have to make them and then use them. Any healthfood store should sell caps.
 
sure its the gauge that will affect how much it hurts...ur saying an 18g thats one inch wil feel better then a 23g thats 1 1/2?? u need to get it into the muscle, thats of the utmost importance...chances are u probably injected into the wrong part of the ass...check out www.spotinjections.com
 
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Hey guys i appreciate the quick responses and great info it is taken seriously. Except for those who keep telling me that I do not have enough experience.Just so All of you know I have been working out since I was 16 and Iam now 38 and A college grad. So I have studied roids for at least a year, read all of the articles and all of the profiles looked at every injection cite I can find contemplated using for about 6 months, Iam not some punk kid who just wants a quik fix for his body to look good for the chics this is a personal challenge, so instead of telling me to read more or study more offer up some advise or at least give some references bring something to the discussion other than criticisim I thought that was what this board was for, to gain knowledge, get advise, and ideas.
 
Mag..

I know an 18g will hurt more going in then a 23g. He is having a reaction..a large red lump and it is very warm/hot..the shot could of been to shallow. That is what i am saying.

Oh yea he also didnt shoot his glute..it was his quad..

Some ppl have probs shooting there quad..try a glute shot
Sust shots hurt enough w/ out the possible complications of a quad shot.

Use a 23g 1.5 in your glute. It should hurt less
 
SofaGeorge said:
Bro, you don't have enough knowledge to be juicing. You need to read and learn for a while first.
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I second that....and just cause you're 38 and have been working out since you were 16 and graduated college doesn't mean you know enough to juice.....
 
Experience

I must reiterate:
I have studied this remarkable uncharted , undocumented new phenomenon called using steroids. My age and degree indicate that Iam a mature adult who knows how to study subjects that are of intrest and I do not rely on just locker room jargon to make my decisions as I said before if you cant offer some constructive feed back dont get in on the conversation, just where did you learn and who certified you two. The other guys have opted to help a fellow athelet and give him some adivse that might help him further his knowledge. Hell at least give up some of your site sources for further advancement of my so little experienced ass.
 
Why dont you stop going at ppl about your degree..I graduated college too..Means nothing really when it comes to AAS unless your degree is related. Start responding to ppl's oppinions and helpful responces. What your next steps are going to be to correct your problem.

PwrHouse
 
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hornhunter said:
I must reiterate:
I have studied this remarkable uncharted , undocumented new phenomenon called using steroids. My age and degree indicate that Iam a mature adult who knows how to study subjects that are of intrest and I do not rely on just locker room jargon to make my decisions as I said before if you cant offer some constructive feed back dont get in on the conversation, just where did you learn and who certified you two. The other guys have opted to help a fellow athelet and give him some adivse that might help him further his knowledge. Hell at least give up some of your site sources for further advancement of my so little experienced ass.
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... and what you have written indicates you are a total novice with very little knowledge. Unfortunately, you think you know more than you do.
 
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Hey used a 22 gauge 1,1/2 long , used heating pad over the last three days pain is going away , yesterday used same needle in glutes with no problem thanks whoever suggested the heat pad and ice i guess I am just one of those who will have trouble with the quad injections, and yes I am a novice if I was anything more I wouldnt have to ask advise the difference between being stupid and intelligent is just a question away there are no stupid questions except the one you did not ask Where would you be sofa george if you had never asked a question.
 
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Lfthandpwrhous:
Advice taken and well pointed out I just wonder where would all be if the ppl we all had asked for help in the beggining gave erogant replies like his.
 
Re: Advise

hornhunter said:
Eveytime time you post you prove my point, at least i admit that i dont know it all
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Then did it ever occur to you to WAIT until you were better educated to begin a cycle?
 
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Yeah Dude it did but have you always I mean always done the smart thing evertime cause lets face it apprarently none of us on this board have or we would not have started using this shit anyway cause we all know that it is not exactly good for you and the studies proove it dont they, Man all I did was ask a question to a problem and you instead of offering me some of your 20+ years of advise cocked off about my experience I mean dude whats done is done I was just trying to rectify the problem. I hope you and I can put this behind us cause you seam to know what you are talking about cause no one is disputing any of your posts maybe I took it the wrong way but i just do not take it well when people talk down especially when they could be helpful.
 
oh and not sure if anyone pointed this out already buuuuuut-50mgs of dbol/week? that=waste my friend. for your first time you should probably take 25 or 30mgs per DAY, and even that needs to be broken up throughout the day-every 4 hours optimum because of dbols very short halflife.
 
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Has been pointed out to me and the 50mgs was if injected got that infor from another site, cant break it up either taking it just an hour to hour and 1/2 before work out, work out side with the public and with the law so would not be good. but thanks for the advise. Started drinking my doses of 25 mgs a day.
 
Gee, that's odd... you say your 38... but you listed your birthday as Dec 31, 1969.

You must have forgotten which fake birthday you used.
 
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