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itlnstln

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Could you "please" state (1) instance where Elite Fitness(GS) has paid (out of His pocket) to "fights for your rights, pays out of his own pockets to protect the members" as you put it.

(I'm looking for significants, not just keeping his site up while other "ran" - that's easy when you have a positive cash-flow.

This needs to be adressed and not just locked up like some Top Secret document that only few talk about and no one ever sees.

Just asking questions that I think I'm entitled answers to - (as a MONTHLY paying member)

Regards

Stallion
 
itlnstln said:
Could you "please" state (1) instance where Elite Fitness(GS) has paid (out of His pocket) to "fights for your rights, pays out of his own pockets to protect the members" as you put it.

(I'm looking for significants, not just keeping his site up while other "ran" - that's easy when you have a positive cash-flow.

This needs to be adressed and not just locked up like some Top Secret document that only few talk about and no one ever sees.

Just asking questions that I think I'm entitled answers to - (as a MONTHLY paying member)

Regards

Stallion

Valid question. I want to know too.
 
itlnstln said:
Could you "please" state (1) instance where Elite Fitness(GS) has paid (out of His pocket) to "fights for your rights, pays out of his own pockets to protect the members" as you put it.

(I'm looking for significants, not just keeping his site up while other "ran" - that's easy when you have a positive cash-flow.

This needs to be adressed and not just locked up like some Top Secret document that only few talk about and no one ever sees.

Just asking questions that I think I'm entitled answers to - (as a MONTHLY paying member)

Regards

Stallion

WTF? I think they've paid attorneys like Rick Collins to know their (as well as your) privacy rights, perhaps among other things (maybe like paying for an overseas server, etc.). This is not the USA government and their is no constitution between you and EF as to your "rights." Provoking admin is the best way to get yourself banned, so keep being a smart ass and I'm sure you'll be saying si-ah-na-rah. :rolleyes:
 
BBkingpin said:
WTF? I think they've paid attorneys like Rick Collins to know their (as well as your) privacy rights, perhaps among other things (maybe like paying for an overseas server, etc.). This is not the USA government and their is no constitution between you and EF as to your "rights." Provoking admin is the best way to get yourself banned, so keep being a smart ass and I'm sure you'll be saying si-ah-na-rah. :rolleyes:


Hey "hot head" - my post wasn't "provoking" AT ALL - it was written with the upmost respect - but don't I (as a paying member of Elite Fitness) have the RIGHT to ask these type of questions?

If I was to be "banned" for this type of post - then that would be the true crime
 
itlnstln said:
Hey "hot head" - my post wasn't "provoking" AT ALL - it was written with the upmost respect - but don't I (as a paying member of Elite Fitness) have the RIGHT to ask these type of questions?

If I was to be "banned" for this type of post - then that would be the true crime

I don't really care to know what happen's or has been done but i don't see why you should not be allowed to ask the question. If people are going to say all this stuff get's done for the member's but not give specifics you have to expect people to be curious.
 
itlnstln said:
Hey "hot head" - my post wasn't "provoking" AT ALL - it was written with the upmost respect - but don't I (as a paying member of Elite Fitness) have the RIGHT to ask these type of questions?

If I was to be "banned" for this type of post - then that would be the true crime
I'm not a hot head. The tone of your question seems out of line to me. Most people come here for info and to have fun at the same time, not to take on the admin and try to put them on the spot for answers to questions to which they think they are entitled. Let's leave it at that. You can have the last word.
 
BBkingpin said:
I'm not a hot head. The tone of your question seems out of line to me. Most people come here for info and to have fun at the same time, not to take on the admin and try to put them on the spot for answers to questions to which they think they are entitled. Let's leave it at that. You can have the last word.


I love this site - but as a paying member - I was just wondering if someone would put in writing a couple of the things I was actually paying for (besides an extensive search engine)

Don't "tout" that you "have my back LEGALLY - if you have no documentation to prove it.

As a paying member - it's MY RIGHT to respectfully ask these questions and expect the rightful persons to answer them, cause after all - isn't it our monthly $$$ that's giving them the Arena to promote all their other $$ making ideas?

Just want what's rightfully mine.................

Again, in a respectful way - but in NO WAY should this thread be locked or deleted.

I work hard for my money, as you all do - so if once in a while I have a question as to where it goes - I want it answered - period.

Also - What good is a site where a paying member has to walk on egg-shells around moderators just so they don't get banned or suspended.

Free speech - goes hand-in-hand with our right to bear AAS

Peace
 
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I don't see being a wise ass as one of those priveledges nor do I see the priveledge to challenge what Mr. X has said. Leave it be bro. This board is not America nor does it bear the rights offered by the constitution. I'm with BBkingpin on this.
 
itlnstln said:
I love this site - but as a paying member - I was just wondering if someone would put in writing a couple of the things I was actually paying for (besides an extensive search engine)

Don't "tout" that you "have my back LEGALLY - if you have no documentation to prove it.

As a paying member - it's MY RIGHT to respectfully ask these questions and expect the rightful persons to answer them, cause after all - isn't it our monthly $$$ that's giving them the Arena to promote all their other $$ making ideas?

Just want what's rightfully mine.................

Again, in a respectful way - but in NO WAY should this thread be locked or deleted.

I work hard for my money, as you all do - so if once in a while I have a question as to where it goes - I want it answered - period.

Also - What good is a site where a paying member has to walk on egg-shells around moderators just so they don't get banned or suspended.

Free speech - goes hand-in-hand with our right to bear AAS

Peace

bro, this site has always been "censored" in some ways, only certain items and companies can be "pushed" or "sold" here, and some things you can't talk about or bring up, take one of the most played up guys on ELITE ever, tell me that doesn't go against rules here? just live with it bro, let it die, nothing you can say or do but go along with the flow my friend! They are the owners and the individuals paid to keep this site running a certain way and to make sure certain things get said/done/marketed etc!
 
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DRRman said:
bro, this site has always been "censored" in some ways, only certain items and companies can be "pushed" or "sold" here, and some things you can't talk about or bring up, take one of the most played up guys on ELITE ever, SATCH, he was one of the biggest sources ever, tell me that doesn't go against rules here? just live with it bro, let it die, nothing you can say or do but go along with the flow my friend! They are the owners and the individuals paid to keep this site running a certain way and to make sure certain things get said/done/marketed etc!


I guess (seeing as no Mods have stepped in) - you're words are as tru as any I've seen so far.

That's all I needed to know.

E.F. is just another typical "business"

Cool - thanks
 
itlnstln said:
Could you "please" state (1) instance where Elite Fitness(GS) has paid (out of His pocket) to "fights for your rights, pays out of his own pockets to protect the members" as you put it.

(I'm looking for significants, not just keeping his site up while other "ran" - that's easy when you have a positive cash-flow.

This needs to be adressed and not just locked up like some Top Secret document that only few talk about and no one ever sees.

Just asking questions that I think I'm entitled answers to - (as a MONTHLY paying member)

Regards

Stallion

No problem. When Eric perrin -ef member- died over his own fault, Elitefitness was sued to give up all members information and let the FEDs put a program (carnivore like) on EF servers to basically log everyone's IPs and personal info. GS went to court to fight the feds, hired the famous Rick Collins. EF did NOT release members' information and won the trial, after an expensive court fight. I'm sure you realize that going to court with the government is VERY expensive, since the gov. has deep pockets. George Spellwin has worked hard to protect your rights. Other sites out there would not even bother, they would give up all your information in face of fear, but GS fought for your rights.

Instead of questioning common knowledge, do a search on it and you would find everything you need. You posted something in the open that you could have PMed me about and asked.

read this over
http://www.elitefitness.com/articledata/efn/072202b.html
(scroll)
http://www.elitefitness.com/articledata/efn/090302.html


P.S. there are other fitness sites, like Triedia back in the day that was taken down and the owners just ran, giving up all the server info to the FEDs! that's right, all your posts, IPs and personal info they logged. So, I only trust elitefitness, as Ef will protect your rights.
 
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