Some are saying EQ is overatted, then again, who would take Eq alone? some drugs are just meant to be stacked with others. As of anavar, i don't know what to say. This is what i consider my "first Real Cycle" of anavar and winstrol..and first 3 weeks of anavar i went into the gym and lifted like an animal, ate like a champ, and so far gained 12lbs, and never bigger. The one thing i don't like the hype about OX is that they say it reduces abdominal fat...well i've never been fater, yea im big, but fuck, fat has gone no where..which is why i've realized my last 6 weeks of cycle, im cutting cals and fats to get the best out of my cycle...i aded the winstrol 3 weeks later caus it got here late, and results are looking good so far...but personally, I though anavar would have maybe a little better effects, but i could imagine at 80mgs/day that gains would be great....