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Most common steroid athletes are caught using?

Godspeed

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Shawne Merriman (NFL) was just recently suspended for using steroids. I just heard on ESPN it was Nandrolone that they found in his system. To me atleast, it seems that Deca keeps coming up in sports related doping cases. Is deca one of the more common steroids that athletes seem to be getting busted for?
 
Godspeed said:
Shawne Merriman (NFL) was just recently suspended for using steroids. I just heard on ESPN it was Nandrolone that they found in his system. To me atleast, it seems that Deca keeps coming up in sports related doping cases. Is deca one of the more common steroids that athletes seem to be getting busted for?

nandrolones are notorious for bring detectable for long periods.
 
well deca is def detctable for a real long time and it is viewed ( incorrectly) as a "safe" steroid many people run it... i think it depends on the sport such as sprinteres using winny or var..volleyball players using stimulants ect...

i would bet GH and test susp or an androgel are the most commonl used steroids by pro athletes
 
lanky said:
high dose androgel, gh, insulin, and dht heptanoate is the current trend...or future

interesting. any specific cases as of recent?

Ninja edit: I'm not into the bodybuilding scene so forgive my ignorance.
 
Godspeed said:
interesting. any specific cases as of recent?

Ninja edit: I'm not into the bodybuilding scene so forgive my ignorance.

i cant speak to freely on the DHT heptanoate ester as of right now for various reasons..

it will be in the news three years from now
 
winstrol seems to be a hot one. people think they can shoot it up to 8 hours before a event and have it out of the system for the post win urine test.but the metabolites stick around for days and can show up in the urine due to injections of winstrol being injected into the muscle but traces end up in the fatty areas between the skin and muscle as you insert the needle or pull it out and get released slower even just a trace of winstrol pops a postive.

test suspension seems to be hot also floyd landis test leveles were so high but one day after the races urine shows its back to almost normal so he had to have used a test gel ,suspension injection or a test oral during the event or was given a french pastry laced with test .

i think the oil based ones are obvious and educated coaches know and do their own test 4 weeks out from a event to see if they are gonna test postive for any deca ,primo ,eq long acting esters and think the water based ones are ok to go with but are mis educated and stay on to close to the event.
 
My opinion on this topic varies. First off I think drug tests are often only issued to players the team owner/manager is having trouble with. So often these guys may have seemed to have been busted at random but were singled out for something behind the scenes. In the meantime everyone else on the team is still using. This appliues mainly to pro sports where there's tons of $$$$ involved. On the Olympic level and other less popular sports I'd guess the testing system is more straight across the board-unless your're a media victim like Armstrong or Landis. Obviously, Nandrolones seem to be the primary culprit because of their long 1/2 life in the body(up to 1 yr I think?) but I don't think it's always the athlete's ignorance. For example, if he buys black market gear that's labled Propionate, but actually contains Nandrolone, he may actually think he's safe to get tested after a few months of being off it cuz it was prop-but finds out otherwise when it was too late.

Winny V is supposed to clear the system in 72 hrs, so I think guys might take this time frame too seriously not taking into account that everybody is different. Maybe it takes some guys 48 hours to test clean, other guys may need 96 hrs? Anyway, if you don't know the precise amount of time it takes yourself to come off a drug and test clean, you really need to get off a bit sooner than the gurus tell you to just to be safe.

Just my .02 cc's
 
Shawne Merriman, 2nd year linebacker for the San Diego Chargers has tested positive for nandrolone, aka deca. The former defensive rookie of the year will face a 4 game suspension pending his appeal...

React:This brings up many questions in my mind including the following...
1)How stupid can you be to get caught taking traditional steroids during this witch hunt? you have resources that most of us do not, and also much more to lose than. Use a portion of the millions you make to ENSURE you don't get caught!
2)Deca (nandrolone) has a detection time of 18 months. This leaves possibilities. Its possible Merriman used while in the NCAA and is still testing positive. Of course he may have recently used as well, but 18 months is a hell of a window. His lawyer is sure to have a field day coming up with a defense, certainly a number of things can happen over the course of 18 months.
3)Because of the long detection time of nandrolone, how do they plan future tests? If Merriman says, "yeah i used deca since the season started..." that mean he will test positive for the next 18 months or so. Will he face additional punishment from the NFL for future postive tests, although he may have discontinued use?
4)Knowing what we do about Deca, PCT, and recovery, and assuming Merriman is in mid cycle, will the NFL force him to discontinue use and not allow him to being PCT? Most PCT and acilleries are banned as well. This could put Merriman at a considerable disadvantage. Not to mention he may have all sorts of emotional issues as well. Going to the extreme, lets say Merriman falls into depression and takes his life (I hope that doesn't happen, but play along...) as a result of the preceding scenario. Is there any recourse for Merriman's family against the NFL?

Does anyone have any details on the NFL's substance abuse program? Are there provisions in the policy for steroids to allow the athlete recovery?
 
You'd be surprised how misinformed many of these top athletes are. A lot of them don't have a clue what they're taking-as long as it works who cares? Unlike most BB's that are self educated, these guys are used to relying on their coaches/trainers for what to do, so they probably feel that finding out the "hows" and "whys" isn't necessary. His fuck up could've very well been his trainer's fault???

As far as the NFL's testing program goes, I'm pretty sure that 411 is kept under wraps so they can skew it however they want to prevent fucking themselves too hard in the $$$ dept.
 
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