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Mossad Responsible for Saudi Explosion
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Ffactor
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DeepZenPill
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So this is your theory 2thick? Or is there any other basis for it?
Maybe it was the CIA? Oh the possibilities.
Maybe it was the CIA? Oh the possibilities.
Silent Method
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Is this the same Koran that lists specific commands for Muslims to obide by in war, such as a prohibition on the killing of innocents, women, children, and unarmed men (regardless of their combatant status), as well as destroying enemy infrastructure (like big buildings)?2Thick said:
The fringe murdering terrorists who like to think themselves "Muslims" have been shitting on the book for quite some time. If you think the "desecration of the Koran" is some hardfast line, easily recognized by us, that they would not cross you're a touch slow.
A unifying theme among the fringe muslim murderers is the rationalization of the right to commit what Islam would otherwise call a sin in order that their cause be furthered.
The murderers who fancy the label "Muslim" are not true Muslims simply because the fancy the label.
Wake up.
DeepZenPill
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word.
Silent Method
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Blind.2Thick said:
2Thick said:
Thats extremely odd. I am a muslim, and I have defaced the Koran. Well to be honest, once or twice was on accident when it was in my backpack during college. Once was on purpose. If you want, Ill draw a little something on it now.
And yes, my family and I can be considered moderately religious.
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Suicide is also forbidden in Islam. The murderers rationalize that it is right when it glorifies their cause.
Islamic law, largely from the mouth of "the prophet" Muhammad himself:
"Do not kill any old person, any child or any woman"
"Punishment by fire does not behoove anyone except the Master of the Fire"
"Do not attack a wounded person" said the Prophet. This means that wounded soldiers who are not fit to fight, nor actually fighting, should not be attacked.
"No prisoner should be put to the sword."
"The Prophet has prohibited the killing of anyone who is tied or is in captivity."
"The Prophet has prohibited the Believers from loot and plunder"
"Do not destroy the villages and towns, do not spoil the cultivated fields and gardens, and do not slaughter the cattle."
"The Prophet has prohibited us from mutilating the corpses of the enemies"
The Prophet replied: "I do not sell dead bodies. You can take away the corpse of your fallen comrade. (To enemies requesting the bodies of their fallen soldiers.)"
"Do not be guilty of breach of faith. " "Since the terms of the treaty have been settled, we are not in a position to help you. You should go back with your father. God will provide you with some other opportunity to escape this persecution."
Islamic law, largely from the mouth of "the prophet" Muhammad himself:
"Do not kill any old person, any child or any woman"
"Punishment by fire does not behoove anyone except the Master of the Fire"
"Do not attack a wounded person" said the Prophet. This means that wounded soldiers who are not fit to fight, nor actually fighting, should not be attacked.
"No prisoner should be put to the sword."
"The Prophet has prohibited the killing of anyone who is tied or is in captivity."
"The Prophet has prohibited the Believers from loot and plunder"
"Do not destroy the villages and towns, do not spoil the cultivated fields and gardens, and do not slaughter the cattle."
"The Prophet has prohibited us from mutilating the corpses of the enemies"
The Prophet replied: "I do not sell dead bodies. You can take away the corpse of your fallen comrade. (To enemies requesting the bodies of their fallen soldiers.)"
"Do not be guilty of breach of faith. " "Since the terms of the treaty have been settled, we are not in a position to help you. You should go back with your father. God will provide you with some other opportunity to escape this persecution."
Silent Method
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No so called "Muslim" terrorist would ever break those laws, right? Bullshit. Fringe murdering zelot screwballs are not sane - regardless of culture or religion.
Silent Method
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Regarding Islamic Law and War:
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No so called "Muslim" terrorist would ever break those laws, right? Bullshit. Fringe murdering zelot screwballs are not sane - regardless of culture or religion.
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If you knew the first thing about Islam, look it up yourself. It's readily available. You might learn something.2Thick said:
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Originally posted by Silent Method
No so called "Muslim" terrorist would ever break those laws, right? Bullshit. Fringe murdering zelot screwballs are not sane - regardless of culture or religion.
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You want a citation to tell you that fringe murdering zelot screwballs are not sane? I swear you're being intentionally stupid some days.2Thick said:
Silent Method
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I cannot back them up? In truth, you are both ignorant and quite arrogant. Find them yourself - they are Islamic doctrine.2Thick said:
You are full of shit if you claim you know the first thing about Islam. You know what you have been feed and what serves you.
Do you give a shit about the truth of the matter? If you did you'd have the all the citations you could ask for with a couple of clicks.
Silent Method
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2thick you are a self-made joke.
2Thick said:
I feel like playing so......
Like you keep telling others, where is your evidence?
Maybe you are basing your opinion on years of experience? But that can't be, you're a college student, so how much experience can you have in international studies? Or even in real life experience for that matter?
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http://boards.elitefitness.com/forum/showthread.php?postid=3099054#post3099054
big4life said:
http://boards.elitefitness.com/forum/showthread.php?postid=3099054#post3099054
Try this.
It's a bit long, but informative, if you have an open mind.
http://www.specialoperations.com/Counterterrorism/munich_ct.htm
It's a bit long, but informative, if you have an open mind.
http://www.specialoperations.com/Counterterrorism/munich_ct.htm
SCOTTY-TWO-HOTTY
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jackangel said:
LMFAO
You're average muslim idiot in the middle east who has only been told what the koran might say and has never learned to read will carry out any assignment set forth for them. It's nice to see the hand being bit by the monster it has helped feed.
2Thick said:
Islam forbids suicide too, right?
DeepZenPill
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Surah 2:190
"Fight in the cause of Allah
Those who fight you,
But do not transgress limits;
For Allah loveth not transgressors"
There are many other similar passages in the Qu'ran which speak of bounds and limits. Revenge is not to exceed the limits of the originaly wrongdoing. Murder is only allowed to punish murder. But since Islamic fundamentalist terrorists believe that we are murdering millions of their people through sanctions, supporting Israel, etc., killing a few thousand in the WTC doesn't seem to be trangressing limits to them.
Yet the Qu'ran also states in Surah 5:8
"O ye who believe!
Stand out firmly
For Allah, as witnesses
To fair dealing, and let not
The hatred of others
To you make you swerve
To wrong and depart from
Justice. Be just: that is
Next to Piety: and fear Allah"
But to a fundamentalist, Justice is making the American/Israeli transgressors pay for their sins.
"Fight in the cause of Allah
Those who fight you,
But do not transgress limits;
For Allah loveth not transgressors"
There are many other similar passages in the Qu'ran which speak of bounds and limits. Revenge is not to exceed the limits of the originaly wrongdoing. Murder is only allowed to punish murder. But since Islamic fundamentalist terrorists believe that we are murdering millions of their people through sanctions, supporting Israel, etc., killing a few thousand in the WTC doesn't seem to be trangressing limits to them.
Yet the Qu'ran also states in Surah 5:8
"O ye who believe!
Stand out firmly
For Allah, as witnesses
To fair dealing, and let not
The hatred of others
To you make you swerve
To wrong and depart from
Justice. Be just: that is
Next to Piety: and fear Allah"
But to a fundamentalist, Justice is making the American/Israeli transgressors pay for their sins.
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I don't think so. I think suicide is expressly forbidden.
In other news,
Islam is horseshit, just like "Christianity" is horseshit - strict adherence to either religion has proven a scourge upon humanity. Terrorism has been done in the name of both of them.
It's a pretty safe conclusion that any religion which teaches morality and exclusion together is inherently evil.
2Thick said:
I don't think so. I think suicide is expressly forbidden.
In other news,
Islam is horseshit, just like "Christianity" is horseshit - strict adherence to either religion has proven a scourge upon humanity. Terrorism has been done in the name of both of them.
It's a pretty safe conclusion that any religion which teaches morality and exclusion together is inherently evil.
Silent Method
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Islam forbids suicide too, right?
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Islam forbids suicide too, right?
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You don't have a clue.2Thick said:
Robert Jan
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The symbolic value in islam of respect for the paper of the Qur`an makes it impossible for muslims to destroy a qur`an.
Muslims can`t have their Qur`an below waist height, for it would be disrespectful
Muslims can`t have their Qur`an below waist height, for it would be disrespectful
Silent Method
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Robert Jan, a unifying theme among baked brained murdering psychos that happen to call themselves "Muslim" is the belief that they have the right to shit on any law if the end "glorifies" their cause. In doing so, they believe that the means is just as glorified as the end result.
You keep making your ignorance evident.2Thick said:
Robert Jan, a unifying theme among baked brained murdering psychos that happen to call themselves "Muslim" is the belief that they have the right to shit on any law if the end "glorifies" their cause. In doing so, they believe that the means is just as glorified as the end result.
2Thick said:
You really are either trying hard to stir the pot or just have no idea here.
Either way, I am done on this post. Your apparent understanding of Islam and its history is threadbare.
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(CNN) -- Al Qaeda claimed responsibility for last weekend's deadly bombing of a neighborhood in Riyadh, Saudi Arabia, according to a statement posted on a Web site affiliated with the terrorist network.
http://www.cnn.com/2003/WORLD/meast/11/12/saudi.explosion/index.html
http://www.cnn.com/2003/WORLD/meast/11/12/saudi.explosion/index.html
DeepZenPill
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zing.
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Hmm...what about Judaism? I guess it's not "horseshit"? Is bulldozing people and houses terrorism? What about gunning down schoolchildren on their way home from school?
But, I am not saying all Jews or even Judaism is evil for the actions of a few. Just as I would never say that just because someone who calls themself a Christian, bombs an abortion clinic means that all Christianity or all Christians are evil. Nor would I be of the opinion that just because someone who calls themself a muslim would blow up a building, means that Islam or all muslims are evil.
Maybe it was just an oversight that you left Judaism out of the "horseshit" category. Or, maybe you are Jewish, and you are being morally exclusive?
MattTheSkywalker said:
Hmm...what about Judaism? I guess it's not "horseshit"? Is bulldozing people and houses terrorism? What about gunning down schoolchildren on their way home from school?
But, I am not saying all Jews or even Judaism is evil for the actions of a few. Just as I would never say that just because someone who calls themself a Christian, bombs an abortion clinic means that all Christianity or all Christians are evil. Nor would I be of the opinion that just because someone who calls themself a muslim would blow up a building, means that Islam or all muslims are evil.
Maybe it was just an oversight that you left Judaism out of the "horseshit" category. Or, maybe you are Jewish, and you are being morally exclusive?
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No...it comes down to the belief system, not the people. Once you understand teh belief system, the actions of the people are self defining:
Here's how I mean it:
Christianity and Islam are both founded upon the idea of "go forth and make disciples of all nations".
Additionally, Islam and Chrstianity both believe that there is a reward after death for behaving a certain way. However, according to thiose faiths, one MUST accept soemthing or someone:
Jesus I am the way and the truth and the light
or Mohammed There is no God but Allah and Mohammed is his prophet .
Jews do not believe in moral judgment and a life after death of reward or punishment. Jews DO believe that at the end of the world, the righteous will be resurrected to live with God.
Here's the big difference:
You don't have to be Jewish to be considered righteous. Jews, alone among monotheisitic religions, do not monopolize access to God to their people . Anyone, Jewish or not, can be saved. A Muslim or Christian preaches exclusivity and requires conversion and aceptance to access God.
That's the difference.
Therefore, there is no imperative to force conversion on people, (inquisition) no holy land to fight over (Crusades) and no occupiers of sacred territory (OBLs reasoning for 9/11).
hence, the horseshit designation does nto apply. It;s an intersting topic - interesting to see how christinaity and Islam both are watered down version of Judaism....too long to talk about here but if you want to pock it up on another thread or PMs, you know where to find me.
ceo said:
No...it comes down to the belief system, not the people. Once you understand teh belief system, the actions of the people are self defining:
Here's how I mean it:
Christianity and Islam are both founded upon the idea of "go forth and make disciples of all nations".
Additionally, Islam and Chrstianity both believe that there is a reward after death for behaving a certain way. However, according to thiose faiths, one MUST accept soemthing or someone:
Jesus I am the way and the truth and the light
or Mohammed There is no God but Allah and Mohammed is his prophet .
Jews do not believe in moral judgment and a life after death of reward or punishment. Jews DO believe that at the end of the world, the righteous will be resurrected to live with God.
Here's the big difference:
You don't have to be Jewish to be considered righteous. Jews, alone among monotheisitic religions, do not monopolize access to God to their people . Anyone, Jewish or not, can be saved. A Muslim or Christian preaches exclusivity and requires conversion and aceptance to access God.
That's the difference.
Therefore, there is no imperative to force conversion on people, (inquisition) no holy land to fight over (Crusades) and no occupiers of sacred territory (OBLs reasoning for 9/11).
hence, the horseshit designation does nto apply. It;s an intersting topic - interesting to see how christinaity and Islam both are watered down version of Judaism....too long to talk about here but if you want to pock it up on another thread or PMs, you know where to find me.
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Ffactor said:
Aren't they the equal to the American CIA... Just the Isreal CIA? You know what I mean dammit!
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