more ppl need to train naturally

[tiger88]

seems like ppl in the juice forum do a 10 week cycle take 10 weeks off and right back on again ....

How about waiting until you hit another plateau in training? Who says you need to go from cycle to cycle without training naturally? I really don't get why people are so eager to jump back on a cycle...after a while cycling is gonna be old news for your body. Don't you love the feeling of training naturally, then hitting a cycle and it sending you through the roof?

 

[juicedbeachbum]

It depends on your goals. To be a true freak, you must be juicing constantly. There still are things to look forward to, like gh, insulin, igf, and new combinations.

 

[ham2]

there is also a lot of confusione between muscles, leannes & strenght.
I am about as strong as my gym owner ( former IFBB champion ).
And by about i mean the typical +/- 10% range.
Yet i do have the belly ( not a michelin man; just not cut ) and he doesn't.
He juices big time ( as any pro ): i never have.
I got 49cm biceps; he got the same & we're same height.
So who's better?
By an appearance standpoint, he is.
By a measurement & strenght standpoint we're about same.
Most about the "freaky looks" pertains to details such as dehydration, shredding etc to an unnatural level ( check old, rare Dorian's offseason pic & you'll see a big, muscular truck driver having little in common with the O'day persona ) that insane dieting & juicing is required.
By his own admission, he can look the onstage way only a few days across contest days, no longer.
and by his own admission, what makes a difference between him & myself is just 3-4 months of focused dieting.
and i'm sofar 110% natural.

 

[needsize]

it depends on where your physique is at. The point where i am at, not only can I not grow without steroids, i have trouble growing on tons of steroids. So staying off for any real length of time isnt an option, especially since I have competition goals