More is not always better

[nab12]

I just started a cycle 14 days ago...
600 mg test e weekly and 600 mg eq weekly

When i started the cycle I had 14 dbol pills left over from another cycle I had done...they were 10 mgs each...figuring I wasnt ever really going to be able to use them for anything useful I took 1 a day for the last 14 days. I've gained 7 lbs and am not really bloated...and I get really effin bloated on dbols. Also its gotta be the dbols becaus the test and eq wouldnt be kickin in yet.

I was reading on another thread a few weeks ago where people were guessing to Arnolds cycles when he was big and they mentioned he was takin 50 mgs a day of dbol...now if a pro bb'er is taking 50 mgs then why do we also take 50 mgs a day, which is standard advice on here? Have we been programed to where more is always better...even when prob half would be more than sufficient? I would love to see the results at 20 mgs a day....to bad I dont have a few more!

Anybody elses opinions?

 

[BigCracker]

200 mgs of test cyp and 30 mgs of dbol ED was considered a decent cycle in the late 80's. A far cry from the 1 gram a week+ that's the norm by todays standards. I grew like a weed on 200-400mgs a week for years, but that doesn't mean shit to the guys that user higher mgs to compensate for their lack of training intensity, improper nutritional support, and minimal training experience. Delayed gratification seems to be a thing of the past. Everybody wants everything yesterday and more of it than the next guy.

 

[socket]

It begs the question:..............

Is there a saturation point with test in particular, that once over this limit the body starts to convert it?

Surely there is, as the body deals with high levels of sugar quickly, it must also deal with excess levels of Test.

But.............how do you find out what that level is, and save a fortune on wasting gear?

 

[needtogetaas]

blitz cycles are awesome

 

[socket]

blitz cycles are awesome

Never heard of them, are they mountain bikes or road bikes?

 

[needtogetaas]

Never heard of them, are they mountain bikes or road bikes?

its a girl bike with a big black cock shaped banana seat.there on back order right now but I know you want one so ill put you on the top of the list.

 

[socket]

its a girl bike with a big black cock shaped banana seat.there on back order right now but I know you want one so ill put you on the top of the list.

Aw, thanks mate, knew i could count on you! how does yours ride?

BTW, WTF is a blitz cycle?

 

[needtogetaas]

Aw, thanks mate, knew i could count on you! how does yours ride?

BTW, WTF is a blitz cycle?

mass saturation of androgen receptors sites with very high doses for brief periods of time.no more effective then standard cycles for the beginner or intermediate users do to muscle maturity.

in short there is prob 3-4 people on this board that would even benefit from this and even less people that would understand it all.so its best not to even go into it.

 

[BigCracker]

mass saturation of androgen receptors sites with very high doses for brief periods of time.no more effective then standard cycles for the beginner or intermediate users do to muscle maturity.

in short there is prob 3-4 people on this board that would even benefit from this and even less people that would understand it all.so its best not to even go into it.

My good bro does this. He'll take like 6 different compounds at once, moderate dosages of each for like 4-5 weeks. Then he goes clean for 8-10 weeks.

I'm guessing his cycle is around 4000 mgs/wk along w/ 10ius of HGH and insulin ED. He'll even use multiple orals at one time. It seems to be working for him. Especially his skull!!! I swear it's grown proportionately with his physique over the last 4 years.

Then again the pro bb that's telling him how to do these short/high mg cycles had a liver transplant a few years back.

Just before that happened, I remember this pro telling me he was up to 5 Hemogenin(250 mgs of oxymethelone) a day along with the usual big mg dosages of test/nandrolones, etc., and he had to chill due to chronic nosebleeds.

Apparently he listened to his body too late??? I won't mention his name, but I will say it rhymes with "Ray Ray Harsh" and he's a big time fucking asshole. I could easily devote an entire thread as to why so many other people feel the same way as I do about him , but I really don't care to.

 

[advanced-stealth]

I agree BC.

200 mgs of test testosterone cypionate and 30 mgs of Dianabol - methandrostenolone - ED was considered a decent cycle in the late 80's. A far cry from the 1 gram a week+ that's the norm by todays standards. I grew like a weed on 200-400mgs a week for years, but that doesn't mean shit to the guys that user higher mgs to compensate for their lack of training intensity, improper nutritional support, and minimal training experience. Delayed gratification seems to be a thing of the past. Everybody wants everything yesterday and more of it than the next guy.

 

[timtim]

its funny to read super cycles from people with a few years training. just because they have access to dirty ug gear they think they should be running 4 and 5 compound cycles. they'll do their first cycle which will be the typical newbie cycle and then immediately plan for the high test, tren, masteron, anavar, eq, and possibly winstrol cycle caise they want "serious gains". 3 months of "hardcore dieting" and they know it all and are ready to run it all. i think its a good thing that the ug's are losing powder. less out there for stupid people to hurt themselves with. maybe people will begin to realize the importance of training and dieting again.

i was noticing a 5 person group at my gym yesterday. the "head" was an old school juice ball - big and tight but looking silly - and the rest were novice. they were following his program. it was a joke. the exercises had no purpose, the weights used were laughable, and the amount of work done was amazing. 7 exercises for the shoulders alone. and the order and manner they were done was clown like. but the head juice ball will respond because of the gear whereas the groupies wll simply overtrain. where is the science in all of that? throwing around weights for no reason will produce no results but people lose that concept because if gear is involved the muscles will respond no matter what.