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Mavafanculo

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you're like a guerilla debater - you take a shot and then disappear into the rightwing fog lol

you have 2 unanswered questions to deal with:

1) do you actually believe that a for-profit paramilitary organization that is answerable to no one is a good idea? (blackwater in iraq)

2) why do you think that giving irans prez a forum to expose himself as a loon at Columbia is a bad idea?
 
Mavafanculo said:
you're like a guerilla debater - you take a shot and then disappear into the rightwing fog lol

you have 2 unanswered questions to deal with:

1) do you actually believe that a for-profit paramilitary organization that is answerable to no one is a good idea? (blackwater in iraq)

2) why do you think that giving irans prez a forum to expose himself as a loon at Columbia is a bad idea?


1) Who do the terrorists answer to?
2) You mean Iran..... I think every one already knows he's a loon. Think Rush Limbaugh could speak there?
 
bw1 said:
1) Who do the terrorists answer to?
2) You mean Iran..... I think every one already knows he's a loon. Think Rush Limbaugh could speak there?

you're gambino too? is everybody on this board gambino besides me and my alters?

1) is a glib answer. if you want to answer, answer seriously. lol also at everybody in iraq now being a terrorist.

2) sure. would he? no. because limbaugh doesnt want to have his simple-minded hate-mongering hypocrisies challenged. he'll only speak to friendly audiences who pay him big bux for the "priviledge" of listening to his verbal sewage.
 
Mavafanculo said:
you're gambino too? is everybody on this board gambino besides me and my alters?

1) is a glib answer. if you want to answer, answer seriously. lol also at everybody in iraq now being a terrorist.

2) sure. would he? no. because he doesnt want to have his simple-minded hate-mongering hypocrisies challenged. he'll only speak to friendly audiences who pay him big bux for the "priviledge" of listening to his verbal sewage.

lol..no I'm not Bino..but

1) Never said everyone in Iraq was a terrorist...but that's who were fighting. Again only the US military is held to "war rules" our enemy in this war is not. Why don't you critize them? Why is it always, us that's fucked? Our enemy kills innocent people all the time, daily....do they not?

2) LAUGHING MY FUCKING ASS OFF! You know that's BS, you know it. Let's talk about who will only speak to friendly, controlled agenda audiences...hmmmmm let me think...begins with a Hi...it will come to me, oh yea Hillary, and you know it..Ask Bill Richardson
 
gambino was just stirring the pot, he doesn't really endorse paramilitary groups
 
gjohnson5 said:
He's not worth the time...

Might as well debate with a koala bear , LOL

Oh I know...like the oil companies might as well sell crack :rolleyes: That was a good one :rolleyes:
 
Mavafanculo said:
you're like a guerilla debater - you take a shot and then disappear into the rightwing fog lol

you have 2 unanswered questions to deal with:

1) do you actually believe that a for-profit paramilitary organization that is answerable to no one is a good idea? (blackwater in iraq)

2) why do you think that giving irans prez a forum to expose himself as a loon at Columbia is a bad idea?
1. blackwater provides security for those that want it and pay for it. in a lawless land, they gotta be badasses. outnumbered, undergunned, and lacking heavy weapons, they have to resort to harsh tactics when shit gets rough. providing security is not an inherently violent business, if nobody fucks with them i'm sure they don't go looking for violence. they attack when there attacked.
and i don't think paramilitary is the proper word...IRA, UVF, FARC, etc...those are paramilitaries. this is strictly security for loot and i'm about it.

2. you got it cofused, i'm a fan of him coming here...i said so in the thread. show me were i said different

*vanishes back into a republican haze*
 
bw1 said:
lol..no I'm not Bino..but

1) Never said everyone in Iraq was a terrorist...but that's who were fighting.
no, we're fighting an insurgency of which about 5% by best cia estimates is al-queda-iraq. "we're fighting terroists" is marketing bumper sticker bullshit

Again only the US military is held to "war rules" our enemy in this war is not. Why don't you critize them? Why is it always, us that's fucked? Our enemy kills innocent people all the time, daily....do they not?
so you saying we should be like them? become animals? sorry, not for me. and even people like McCain realize thats not the path to go down because it will make it harder on our guys.

2) LAUGHING MY FUCKING ASS OFF! You know that's BS, you know it. Let's talk about who will only speak to friendly, controlled agenda audiences...hmmmmm let me think...begins with a Hi...it will come to me, oh yea Hillary, and you know it..Ask Bill Richardson

Nope. Hillary just subjected herself to a 1-on-1 FAUXNEWS grilling. the analogy would be Bush consenting to be interviewed by Ken Olberman or Randy Rhodes on airamerica. the only place bush and cheney go to spout their propaganda unchallenged is FOX and Limbaugh and Hannity. Bush holds the record for the least press conferences based on time in office (that was true last year and I'm sure it still holds). point for Hillary.

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Moltke said:
1. blackwater provides security for those that want it and pay for it. in a lawless land, they gotta be badasses. outnumbered, undergunned, and lacking heavy weapons, they have to resort to harsh tactics when shit gets rough. providing security is not an inherently violent business, if nobody fucks with them i'm sure they don't go looking for violence. they attack when there attacked.
and i don't think paramilitary is the proper word...IRA, UVF, FARC, etc...those are paramilitaries. this is strictly security for loot and i'm about it.

2. you got it cofused, i'm a fan of him coming here...i said so in the thread. show me were i said different

*vanishes back into a republican haze*

1) maliki suppossedly has a tape that shows otherwise - them firing on civilians unprovoked. basically a slaughter.

also, not withstanding above, you think they should be above the laws of all nations, and answerable to no one? really? how about answerable to US coiurts for their actions?

2) my bad, i thought you were being facetious (sp?)
 
Mavafanculo said:
1) maliki suppossedly has a tape that shows otherwise - them firing on civilians unprovoked. basically a slaughter.

also, not withstanding above, you think they should be above the laws of all nations, and answerable to no one? really? how about answerable to US coiurts for their actions?

2) my bad, i thought you were being facetious (sp?)
1. well that's fucked up. and, in their defense, i'm sure somebody in the crowd was launching shit at them or something of that nature. not that excuses civilian death but why would a security outfit attack civilians? they are not there to do any sorta missions other than security.
2. nope
 
:rolleyes:

88 billion dollars of taxpayer money has been extorted and insurgents now have some 200,000 weapons intended for iraqi security forces probably due to military commanders and contractors taking bribes

If you're going to sit here and make a case (without providing any information at all) that noone thought of using the military to line their own pockets , then maybe the koala bear analogy was infact being generous


bw1 said:
Oh I know...like the oil companies might as well sell crack :rolleyes: That was a good one :rolleyes:
 
Lestat said:
gambino was just stirring the pot, he doesn't really endorse paramilitary groups
what about paramilitary groups that are overthrowing a unjust gov't or occupation?
IRA comes to mind.
 
mods you got the nod to lock this one up.
obiviously i have silenced mavafanenis once and for all
moltke out ten-four
 
Moltke said:
what about paramilitary groups that are overthrowing a unjust gov't or occupation?
IRA comes to mind.



What about Timothy McVey and company?

What makes one paramilitary group's cause 'JUST' while another is not and therefore a bunch of cooc's and terrorists?
 
jh1 said:
What about Timothy McVey and company?

What makes one paramilitary group's cause 'JUST' while another is not and therefore a bunch of cooc's and terrorists?
and there lies the arguement.
logic dictates that mcveigh's action was not popular and didn't have the support of society at all.
the case for the IRA is stronger, or the mujadeen who fought the russians
 
Moltke said:
and there lies the arguement.
logic dictates that mcveigh's action was not popular and didn't have the support of society at all.
the case for the IRA is stronger, or the mujadeen who fought the russians


Our government is very good at labeling anyone that dislikes their policies 'terrorists'.... and the general populace swallows this whole without question.

You think the IRA is popular? LMAO go to London ask around. Where's Ilk. Or better, her hot little sister. Forget the fucking IRA, where are those girls?
 
jh1 said:
Our government is very good at labeling anyone that dislikes their policies 'terrorists'.... and the general populace swallows this whole without question.

You think the IRA is popular? LMAO go to London ask around. Where's Ilk. Or better, her hot little sister. Forget the fucking IRA, where are those girls?
well no shit the ira is not popular in london
it's an irish based group
peeps in belfast would be the people to ask
and lotsa countries disagree with the usa but very few get labeled terroist
 
Mavafanculo said:


Originally Posted by bw1
lol..no I'm not Bino..but

1) Never said everyone in Iraq was a terrorist...but that's who were fighting.
no, we're fighting an insurgency of which about 5% by best cia estimates is al-queda-iraq. "we're fighting terroists" is marketing bumper sticker bullshit

LOL...Bumper Sticker? What a line of crap. Insurgency=Terrorist, jeez Mav c'mon..5%=5% too many KILL THEM. Jeez to easy

Again only the US military is held to "war rules" our enemy in this war is not. Why don't you critize them? Why is it always, us that's fucked? Our enemy kills innocent people all the time, daily....do they not?
so you saying we should be like them? become animals? sorry, not for me. and even people like McCain realize thats not the path to go down because it will make it harder on our guys.
Harder on our guys, People like Harry Reid make it harder on our guys, sad ain't it? Should we negotiate with them, don't want to make them made. Become like them, gimme a break, you know better then that.

2) LAUGHING MY FUCKING ASS OFF! You know that's BS, you know it. Let's talk about who will only speak to friendly, controlled agenda audiences...hmmmmm let me think...begins with a Hi...it will come to me, oh yea Hillary, and you know it..Ask Bill Richardson

Nope. Hillary just subjected herself to a 1-on-1 FAUXNEWS grilling. the analogy would be Bush consenting to be interviewed by Ken Olberman or Randy Rhodes on airamerica. the only place bush and cheney go to spout their propaganda unchallenged is FOX and Limbaugh and Hannity. Bush holds the record for the least press conferences based on time in office (that was true last year and I'm sure it still holds). point for Hillary.

Fuckin Bullshit again, Bush and Chenney are constantly dragged over the coals by the liberal media. You know I'm right about Hillary..shit every one knows that. Spout propoganda, your side spouts propaganda for our enemies, Murtha, Reid, etc. Fuck the left is moveon.org propoganda machine, jezzzus
 
gjohnson5 said:
:rolleyes:

88 billion dollars of taxpayer money has been extorted and insurgents now have some 200,000 weapons intended for iraqi security forces probably due to military commanders and contractors taking bribes

If you're going to sit here and make a case (without providing any information at all) that noone thought of using the military to line their own pockets , then maybe the koala bear analogy was infact being generous


Without providing any information at all? WTF are you talking about? You just don't want to hear it. We'll stick with Oil=Crack :rolleyes:
 
Moltke said:
well no shit the ira is not popular in london
it's an irish based group
peeps in belfast would be the people to ask
and lotsa countries disagree with the usa but very few get labeled terroist


Oh... so you propose to go to an IRA meeting to guage their popularity?

Point being... a terrorist to some, a hero to others. Irregardless of the group you speak of.
 
and it's always predictable, sooner or later you guys on the left will start name calling..lol
 
I think its pathetic that the politicians each have "their guys" that they go to when they want to be interviewed and such so that they will only get softball questions and wont get pressed on the difficult but legitimate topics of the time. Sure, the politicians will throw a "token" interview to the "opposition journalists" just so they can say they went on so-and-so network, but thats all. All Politicians do this repub, dem, doesnt matter. These are supposed to be objective journalists is the main problem. Opinion shows and "infotainment" doesnt count.
 
jh1 said:
Oh... so you propose to go to an IRA meeting to guage their popularity?

Point being... a terrorist to some, a hero to others. Irregardless of the group you speak of.

mcveigh was a lone wolf, a renegade
the ira is a well structured paramilitary
weakness on your part my son, using mcveigh.
 
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