Moar States Adding Drug Test as Hurdle for Welfare

[miplank]

Them smokes is a right, not an indulgence.

Just sayin'

Seriously...

I hear some of my employees always bitching that they only have $40 or whatever to last them til payday. Yet god forbid they stop smoking.

Hell, we had to change pay periods from monthly to bi monthly cuz the majority couldnt make their paychecks last a month.

 

[75th]

You, sir, are a genius.

lmao

 

[miplank]

What about medical marijuana and the drug screening?

 

[musclemom]

Look, my point is not the reimbursement, my point is the timing. If you hit a person whose on a fixed income with an unexpected expense they have to scramble, in ways that most people who have a better income, don't have to. If you've never lived on a narrowly fixed income, you don't grasp it, short and sweet.

I didn't say I was against testing, I think charging for the tests is unnecessary, especially if you're going to throw in things like bonuses for clean tests, that's just stupidity. Make them free, just assure they are done under controlled conditions, I think that should be sufficiently degrading (a controlled urine drug screen means you have to piss under observation).

Actually, a hair sample would probably be better if you want to get technical, that shows exposure over a period of time

 

[mrplunkey]

Look, my point is not the reimbursement, my point is the timing. If you hit a person whose on a fixed income with an unexpected expense they have to scramble, in ways that most people who have a better income, don't have to. If you've never lived on a narrowly fixed income, you don't grasp it, short and sweet.

I didn't say I was against testing, I think charging for the tests is unnecessary, especially if you're going to throw in things like bonuses for clean tests, that's just stupidity. Make them free, just assure they are done under controlled conditions, I think that should be sufficiently degrading (a controlled urine drug screen means you have to piss under observation).

Actually, a hair sample would probably be better if you want to get technical, that shows exposure over a period of time

Then someone who thinks they might test positive would probably take the test anyway thinking: "What the heck, at least it doesn't cost me anything to take a shot at getting the money."

Don't believe me? Employees fail job application tests all the time. WTF were they thinking?

 

[musclemom]

Then someone who thinks they might test positive would probably take the test anyway thinking: "What the heck, at least it doesn't cost me anything to take a shot at getting the money."

Don't believe me? Employees fail job application tests all the time. WTF were they thinking?

In the meantime you throw off the cash flow of the decent people. Honestly, you're being a dick just for the sake of being a dick.

Why do so many assume all who are on welfare are greedy, lazy useless pieces of human waste? All I can say is this board seems to be loaded with people who have no experience with life handing you a shit sandwich despite all efforts on your behalf for life to go otherwise

You're just mean. I hope to god nobody ever treats your children or grandchildren with such a lack of empathy. Of course, what concerns for their futures do they have? You've taken care of them, right? Given them good educations, trust funds, life insurance.

See, nobody gave me anything, no start in life other than not smothering me in my crib. No education, no after school activities. My interests were considered frivolous and certainly nothing to pursue after high school. My clothes came from a 2nd hand store most of my life. I never owned furniture that didn't come from bulk trash collection day until I was in my late 20s.

Let them eat cake, right Plunk

 

[mrplunkey]

In the meantime you throw off the cash flow of the decent people. Honestly, you're being a dick just for the sake of being a dick.

Why do so many assume all who are on welfare are greedy, lazy useless pieces of human waste? All I can say is this board seems to be loaded with people who have no experience with life handing you a shit sandwich despite all efforts on your behalf for life to go otherwise

You're just mean. I hope to god nobody ever treats your children or grandchildren with such a lack of empathy. Of course, what concerns for their futures do they have? You've taken care of them, right? Given them good educations, trust funds, life insurance.

See, nobody gave me anything, no start in life other than not smothering me in my crib. No education, no after school activities. My interests were considered frivolous and certainly nothing to pursue after high school. My clothes came from a 2nd hand store most of my life. I never owned furniture that didn't come from bulk trash collection day until I was in my late 20s.

Let them eat cake, right Plunk

How does:

1) Offering the first test FREE

2) Paying them $100 PER TEST to produce a positive result

3) Then requiring them to use $25 to $50 to take another test so they can get ANOTHER $100

negatively impact cash flow? That's called a guaranteed positive cash flow situation (unless you flunk the test).

If someone wants to provide me my start-up capital and then a business with 50% to 75% margins at zero inventory or overhead, I'm in.

 

[PICK3]

Unfortunate people take advantage of the system.

I knew someone who collected a disability cheque from the military, butt was gainfully employed as a laborer. How can you be disabled & work in a laborious position

He lived with a woman (marrying doesn't fit the equation) who worked at "the club" (cash under the table), butt also got govmint assistance.

Additionally, they had (3) "special needs" children who each collected a govmint cheque.

This guy never didn't have a pocket full of $100 bills.

 

[cap gunz]

They could go without that carton of smokes, or bottle of whiskey or whatever else...

do you assume that they all smoke and drink with the money?

 

[miplank]

do you assume that they all smoke and drink with the money?

Not all of them, but I do think a vast majority of them probably do. Even if it isn't smokes or whiskey I bet there is something they are spending their money on that isn't a necessity. Cell phone, Cable TV, Internet, etc


All too often I hear and see someone complaining they're broke w/a cigarette hanging out of their mouth, a smart phone in their hand, etc. STFU w/your complaining if you're going to be stupid w/your money.