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Serious question:


Last week a new member joined the gym. She didn't click the nationality section on the application, so I checked the African-American box. She got pissed and said she took offense to the term. She said it was derogatory to blacks.

Help me out here please.
 
im guessing here


she considers herself american, not african american. her ethnicity should be taken to be african, her nationality american, not african-american.....

she considers herself american and the form didnt give her that choice. and as she probably felt her ethnicity didnt have an effect on how good a gym member she was, even if there were other reasons for the question (ID, insurance etc)


im guessing that is ;)
 
danielson said:
im guessing here


she considers herself american, not african american. her ethnicity should be taken to be african, her nationality american, not african-american.....

she considers herself american and the form didnt give her that choice. and as she probably felt her ethnicity didnt have an effect on how good a gym member she was, even if there were other reasons for the question (ID, insurance etc)


im guessing that is ;)

Of course, "American" was not a choice. It was White or African-American(of the choices that were applicable). She decided to check the African American box after some thought. SO I'm like, What the Crap. I didn't make the form.
 
Cornholio said:


Of course, "American" was not a choice. It was White or African-American(of the choices that were applicable). She decided to check the African American box after some thought. SO I'm like, What the Crap. I didn't make the form.

i know...im just saying what was probably going through her mind :)

why the hell people have a go at the guy who didnt make the form, and then proceed to sign it is beyond me

PC gone mad :)
 
danielson said:


i know...im just saying what was probably going through her mind :)

why the hell people have a go at the guy who didnt make the form, and then proceed to sign it is beyond me

PC gone mad :)

I personally think the the SSN and nationality sections should be removed. I don't see how they are relevant. I simply wanted to know why that would have offended someone, so that I will not make that mistake in the future.

For example - A very good friend of mine, who happens to be black, always greets me with "My Negro." when he hits the gym...

If I said that, I would be fired.
 
Why does your gym require it's members to identify thier race? Ususally when you see questions like that they're under the heading "voulentary information." :confused:
 
Yeah, bad move Cornholio.

You should've checked the "Dis Girl Gotta Big Black Ass" box and then she probably would've been ok with it. Man...some people are so touchy.
 
Cornholio said:


I personally think the the SSN and nationality sections should be removed. I don't see how they are relevant. I simply wanted to know why that would have offended someone, so that I will not make that mistake in the future.

For example - A very good friend of mine, who happens to be black, always greets me with "My Negro." when he hits the gym...

If I said that, I would be fired.

i dont even see why it offended her personally....and if it was that offensive why she signed it :D
 
Taps said:
Why does your gym require it's members to identify thier race? Ususally when you see questions like that they're under the heading "voulentary information." :confused:

I was told that it was part of a demographic sudy the hospital is doing thru all it's wellness centers.
 
I'll take a stab at this one. I prefer the term "black" over "african american" as well because, 1) Africa is a continent not a country. Caucasian people dont check a box called "European Americans" on any application or form I've ever seen. The majority of black people in the US are a mixture of black, white and native american (well atleast I am). So I feel offended at times when only 1 part of my heritage is singled out.
I'm sure you didn't mean any harm, but she didn't check a box for a reason. I never do when it's optional.

Oh, and when i fill out forms for my son I always check the white and african american boxes. I would never want him to feel he has to choose between one or the other.
 
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BronzedGoddess said:
I'll take a stab at this one. I prefer the term "black" over "african american" as well because, 1) Africa is a continent not a country. Caucasian people dont check a box called "European Americans" on any application or form I've ever seen. The majority of black people in the US are a mixture of black, white and native american (well atleast I am). So I feel offended at times when only 1 part of my heritage is singled out.
I'm sure you didn't mean any harm, but she didn't check a box for a reason. I never do when it's optional.

Sorry - but it wasn't optional. Everyone has to fill out ALL the info on the application.

So - what would you have checked - knowing thatyou HAD to choose only one box.
 
last i checked we are all American...if liveing here, WTF is so hard about that?
 
supersizeme said:
Yeah, bad move Cornholio.

You should've checked the "Dis Girl Gotta Big Black Ass" box and then she probably would've been ok with it. Man...some people are so touchy.

You've got to be kiddin' me right?
 
SSME never kids around, never...strait face all day long, fuckin anal if you ask me.
 
Cornholio said:


Sorry - but it wasn't optional. Everyone has to fill out ALL the info on the application.

So - what would you have checked - knowing thatyou HAD to choose only one box.

Is there an other box she could have checked?
It doesn't bother me so much that I would have made a big issue of it. I don't like the term, but I'll check it without a second thought becuase I know that's what black people are considered in this country. Its cool. Some people are very touchy, in fact too touchy. On the other hand you have people that could care less. My mom still uses the word "colored" and it just makes me laugh. ;)

I have a question. If a white person moved here from South Africa and became a citizen, would they check the African American Box or the White box?
 
BronzedGoddess said:


You've got to be kiddin' me right?

Yes, I'm kidding. Sorry to have offended you if I did. I love black women, and even though I'm the whitest, no rhythm having cracker in the box of Saltines, I hope one day I can convince one of them to get with whitey over here.
 
BronzedGoddess said:


Is there an other box she could have checked?
It doesn't bother me so much that I would have made a big issue of it. I don't like the term, but I'll check it without a second thought becuase I know that's what black people are considered in this country. Its cool. Some people are very touchy, in fact too touchy. On the other hand you have people that could care less. My mom still uses the word "colored" and it just makes me laugh. ;)

I have a question. If a white person moved here from South Africa and became a citizen, would they check the African American Box or the White box?


LOL!!!

There were the usual Ethnic choices on there: Hispanic, Caucasian, etc...

Ok - the South Africa question just made my head explode.

btw - she filed a complaint with the co-ordinator of the center.
 
supersizeme said:


Yes, I'm kidding. Sorry to have offended you if I did. I love black women, and even though I'm the whitest, no rhythm having cracker in the box of Saltines, I hope one day I can convince one of them to get with whitey over here.


...box of Saltines......LOL!
 
Damn, she complained (Black folks are always complaining--- I know y'all are thinking that, hehe) Anyways, I don't see why. I doubt you will get in trouble for it, but next time ask because she could have been Dominican or Panamanian (sp?) and that would have made her Hispanic so you gotta be carefull with things of that sort.
I know you're a sweetie so F*ck what she thinks. :D
 
supersizeme said:


Yes, I'm kidding. Sorry to have offended you if I did. I love black women, and even though I'm the whitest, no rhythm having cracker in the box of Saltines, I hope one day I can convince one of them to get with whitey over here.

:bigkiss:
 
BronzedGoddess said:
Damn, she complained (Black folks are always complaining--- I know y'all are thinking that, hehe) Anyways, I don't see why. I doubt you will get in trouble for it, but next time ask because she could have been Dominican or Panamanian (sp?) and that would have made her Hispanic so you gotta be carefull with things of that sort.
I know you're a sweetie so F*ck what she thinks. :D

LOL!!

True enough.

I mean about the Dominican thing, etc.
 
The sooner we do away with race information on applications, the better. It should be against the law to require that information.
 
i thought the question pertained to your race.

african-american = black, whats so hard about that.

like cornhole said, this information is needed for a study.

should i check the native-american box because i was born here, although i dont have a lick of indian in me.

corn, you should have told her "you have to check the african-american box, because we dont have a "dumbass" box".
 
Sushi, I'm not platinum so I cant post a pic, but pm me and I'll send you some when I get some, k?

As for the other comments......what's up with all the racial remarks all of a sudden? Tone it down a bit please. Thank you.
 
BronzedGoddess said:

Its a joke. The whole race card is all played out.. I am a cracker. A lot of my friends are black, they all yell kill whitey when they see me.. It is funny to me that people still take this shit seriously. They buy me saltines and Andy Griffith Reruns fro my birthday, i laugh.

I get them applications for the United Negro College fund.. They laugh.

I tell them I am having a party and all they need to bring is a rope and a cross.. They laugh.

They tell me I have a white mans dick ( which they wouldnt actually know, but I do) .. I laugh...

HAHAHAHHAHAHAHA

Dont take shit so seriously

When people can laugh about the shit, it will get better because it is all a big joke. If people are going to be all sensitive and shit it will never get better and the wedge will only get deeper.


I think you have watched Rikki Lake one too many times.
 
My bad if I got offended, why dont you put a smiley face by your "playing" post so uptight b*tches like me will know that your a not for real, k?;)
 
BronzedGoddess said:
My bad if I got offended, why dont you put a smiley face by your "playing" post so uptight b*tches like me will know that your a not for real, k?;)

I would but they have no white smiley faces. I am not green or yellow. Fucking racist need to make me a white smiley face!

Kill whitey
 
If I was Black.. I would choose to be called brown. If I was Black, I am sure I would be a medium color... like the color of swiss chocolate. So.. since I am from GA... if someone called me African.. I might raise hell too.
 
dballer said:
If I was Black.. I would choose to be called brown. If I was Black, I am sure I would be a medium color... like the color of swiss chocolate. So.. since I am from GA... if someone called me African.. I might raise hell too.

Well the don't have a CARAMEL box for me to check, damn!
 
That is also beyond me why blacks are termed 'African Americans' and Caucasians are not termed 'European Americans'. That would be more fair wouldn't it?

I think they should just update all those stupid race check boxes to just read:

NATURAL SKIN COLOR (check one):

porcelain
beige
sand
pumpkin
caffe latte
caramel
dark chocolate

After all, those stupid race check boxes are not even going to make sense when people of mixed races make up a large percentage of the human population!
 
Satanic Goatslayer said:
I'm African-Canadian, but folks just usually call me Freak and throw flaming rags and firebombs at me.

If everyone had firebombs and flaming rags at them the world would be a better place.

By the way, there seems to be quite a few FLAMING RAGS right here on this board... I would like to start a Flaming Rag throwing contest with you right now SG..

1... 2.....3..... GO!
 
polarpixie said:
That is also beyond me why blacks are termed 'African Americans' and Caucasians are not termed 'European Americans'. That would be more fair wouldn't it?

I think they should just update all those stupid race check boxes to just read:

NATURAL SKIN COLOR (check one):

porcelain
beige
sand
pumpkin
caffe latte
caramel
dark chocolate

After all, those stupid race check boxes are not even going to make sense when people of mixed races make up a large percentage of the human population!

The more I think about it...why is it that only Africans get to have 'Americans' in their check box? Why do they not have 'Asian Americans', 'South Americans', 'European Americans', since most people who live in America are Americans?
 
BuggyWhips said:
Maybe she was looking for the box labeled "colored" ;)

Do you know my mother? I could see her now, Excuse me sir, where's the colored box? ;)
 
polarpixie said:


The more I think about it...why is it that only Africans get to have 'Americans' in their check box? Why do they not have 'Asian Americans', 'South Americans', 'European Americans', since most people who live in America are Americans?

That is EASY.. cause all of the other races hold on to their culture too hard.. I mean you see Indians with red dots on their heads living in Shreveport LA... you see Chinese people walking around in slippers..... but the African Americans... you don't see them wearing war paint and running around with dart guns and spears... right??
 
dballer said:


That is EASY.. cause all of the other races hold on to their culture too hard.. I mean you see Indians with red dots on their heads living in Shreveport LA... you see Chinese people walking around in slippers..... but the African Americans... you don't see them wearing war paint and running around with dart guns and spears... right??

The best you could come up with for Chinese was walking around with slippers? Hehe! ;)

Actually, although you don't see African Americans with dart guns and spears (prolly because there are no sabre-toothed tigers running around the city streets.....), they DO walk around with those hats and multi-colored tunics. :)
 
Chinese people really do stick to their culture.. they take their shoes off before going inside!!!! They still speak Chinese to eachother at the dry cleaners.. African Americans do speak alot of Ebonics or Jive though.. but ....

I dunno... whatever's cool with me.
 
I always thought the taking the shoes off was a cleanliness thing....you know...less dirt to vaccumn off the carpet. Makes sense to me! ;)

I wish I could speak Jive......maybe the other kids would think I was cool....:(
 
polarpixie said:
I always thought the taking the shoes off was a cleanliness thing....you know...less dirt to vaccumn off the carpet. Makes sense to me! ;)

I wish I could speak Jive......maybe the other kids would think I was cool....:(

You can... you just gotta practice.

I thought carpet was the reason to leave your shoes on.. you know.. you don't see the dirt.. you just vacum it up!!!
 
addickt said:


Right between your two COLORED LEGS is what I would have answered.;)

You better watch your back white boy, I'll get my Home Boys to F*ck you up!
 
African American is just a ridulous term.

It makes an assumption that all Africans are black and all blacks are African. And frankly if I were black or African I would be offended to be forced to live under that label.

BronzedGoddess has already pointed out all of this in detail, so I guess I'm just agreeing with her statements.
 
velvett said:
African American is just a ridulous term.

It makes an assumption that all Africans are black and all blacks are African. And frankly if I were black or African I would be offended to be forced to live under that label.

BronzedGoddess has already pointed out all of this in detail, so I guess I'm just agreeing with her statements.

Well most WHITE people arent actually WHITEe either, they are mostly peach or flesh tones..

But I am not bitching about being called white.
 
addickt said:


Well most WHITE people arent actually WHITEe either, they are mostly peach or flesh tones..

But I am not bitching about being called white.


I look white.
But I'm not white.


Many people from Africa are white (Dutch actually) some are French (North West Africa) and flip side if I were black and from Jamaica why would I want to be referred to as a African?
 
velvett said:



I look white.
But I'm not white.


Many people from Africa are white (Dutch actually) some are French (North West Africa) and flip side if I were black and from Jamaica why would I want to be referred to as a African?

You go girllllllllll.

You should be on Rikki Lake too
 
Exactly Velvett!!! If the term 'african american' on a check box is used to describe the physical characteristics of a black person, then that same logic should be used across the board for the rest of the races. Which is why I said:

polarpixie said:


The more I think about it...why is it that only Africans get to have 'Americans' in their check box? Why do they not have 'Asian Americans', 'South Americans', 'European Americans', since most people who live in America are Americans?

Anyway, who knows when it will actually get changed, but I do not see the logic in using the term African American as a 'racial' category for goverment data since as Velvett said there are many white African Americans as well. Should those white African Americans check off that box after they move to the Americas, I mean who will explain to them that they should not check off the African American box?
 
If we are going to have to break our race down into different groups I will need a whole page. I'm a mutt.:)

Let's see there is:

French, German, Scottish, Irish, Appache, Cherokee, French Canadian, and others.


Ill just put down I'm a member of the human race.:)
 
big4life said:
If we are going to have to break our race down into different groups I will need a whole page. I'm a mutt.:)

Let's see there is:

French, German, Scottish, Irish, Appache, Cherokee, French Canadian, and others.


Ill just put down I'm a member of the human race.:)

Exactly! I've been telling people I was a mutt for a while now...some Scotch, Irish, French, Dutch, and God knows what else...
 
dballer said:
I wish I could breathe fire though.

That would be amazing!!! You can cook me chargrilled chicken breasts at a moment's notice! ;) Not to mention if you got mad at somebody, you can just say, don't mess with me, I can breath fire!!! Then when they laugh at you, you just burn their shirt to a crisp. ;)
 
If I don't see caucasion American, I'm not checking anything.

On all my law school applications the race section was "optional" So, since I'm white, I wisely left them all blank.
 
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