Please Scroll Down to See Forums Below Hey bros, I'm headlong in a solid dbol/ sust cycle. I'm in week 2 of the second 6 week go round with the dbol to end the cycle. Results are great, 25lbs to date, and incredible body comp. changes. Been on solid anti-estros so theats no problem and the bp really isn't acting up. My biggest issue is the unreal lower back pumps. These are getting ridiculous and are coming from just extended periods of standing. I'm gonna tough it out no matter what, I can deal, but I was hoping my bros might have some suggestions as to how I could minimize the discomfort. Karma to all who lend a hand, I wish I had a digital camaera so I could post pictures of me between sets posted up on the gym wall trying to deal. LOL its a trip. My cycle really isn't too high either 500mg sust/25mg dbol ed. Wanted to go up to 30mg flor the last 3 weeks, but who knows. Thanks bros.
Mind blowing Dbol pump you don't want...
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bluetwistedsteel67
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Bro, the lower back pumps from d-bol are awful. I was taking d-bol and doing HIIT training in the mornings (sprint/jog) and I thought I was going to die they hurt so bad. The only thing I found that makes a difference is make sure you're drinking plenty of water. Staying hydrated helps but the painful pumps will still be there.
Makavelli
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Yeah, those f*ckin' kill!! I've been on for about a week and a half now and haven't had any problems. But my last cycle I dreaded training legs. Everytime that I did a set of squats I had to lay on the ground and stretch my lower back for a few minutes. That sucks! Right now I'm taking milk thistle, cranberry extract, and liver care. Maybe that's the key. Good luck.
PitBullFootBall
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This kinda scares me - I'm going on dbol, test eth. & winny in 2 weeks. I play college football and we do a lot of running and sprint work in addition to mat-room workouts over the winter. Will this slow me down? never did dbol before.
patriots357
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It simply affects everyone differently, hang in there and watch the results. Stay hydrated with H2O
slyder190 said:
I just meant the anti-estros are keeping the gyno symptoms and moon face in check. I always carry some h20 with dbol, in fact I don't think it would work as well if I totally eliminated the bloat anyhow. The 25lbs is more solid then you miht expect though definitely some water. I swtiched over to tren mid -cycle and drop an good deal of the water, but still had 15lbs of mass then and that was a few weeks back. Just starting the 2nd week of the dbol closer so I know there's some water, but looking in the mirror I can see a whole lotta muscle too. Milk thistle and tylers are for liver though, thats not the same is the dbol back pump is it?
JustGottaKnow
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You might try some cranberry extract which is supposed to be good for the kidneys.
BOOEY said:
Probably, but thats just more mgs on my liver and I've been told or read somewhere that NSaids such as advil adversly affect protien synthesis and other factors contributing to muscle growth. Besides, all pain relievers are just going to mask the problem, so I will use them if I must to get to sleep one night, but I gotta try to solve the cause to. I used to pop OTC pain relievers all the time, but I've gotten away from them lately. I think its had a positive affect on my pain management and I find them far more effective when I do need them.
Thanks for the helps bros, much karma. Radar, thanks for the help bro and cheap too!
silverbackn
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I didn't notice this at all with d-bol, I'm sad.
silverbackn said:
It definitely not a good thing, it hurts like a bitch, but it is indicative of dbol doing its thing and I've found it accompanies some of my best growth with dbol, so I guess you sadness isn't totally misplaced. Wait til you're posted up against the gym wall trying to hold it together before you are too sure though bro. I think it has alot to do with the fact that I upped my carbs with the restart of the dbol following carb depletion and slight cutting mid-cycle with the tren. Who know really though.
silverbackn said:
lol, you should be thankful
(this is one of the reasons I dont use dbol anymore 
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MR. BMJ said:
Its funny you mention overall carb intake, b/c like I said when I started the dbol again at the end of this cycle I upped the carbs quite a bit. Great for bulking, but I'm sure it gets the lower back pumps going.
To the bro asking what these pumps are, they are basically like the pump you might get in your bicep during a heavy workout. The engorgment of blood and even the pulsating effect. Problem is that in the case of dbol and the lower back it becomes a painful experience. Its hard to describe but its similar to if you had strained you back in terms of pain and will get worse with any action that uses it, which is basically living. It can very from quite mild to surprisingly painful.
Thats true, remember the relief you felt when you found out it was only a lower back pump. When I first experienced it I was sure my liver and kidneys were failing. LOL I remember thinking to myself "4 weeks of dbol and you've already bought the farm, sweet f-ing sweet. " I can't express how happy I was to learn of this common side. It is a painful annoyance, but short of discomfort, I don't think it does any damage. I'd be interested to know if there is any risk of injury from working through the pain. Id oubt it, but I'm not 100% positive.
FknKnuckleHd
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PitBullFootBall said:
Bro I personally wouldn't take dbol if my speed mattered because of the water you'll be holding and the fact that your bp generally goes up from taking dbol. None of which are too favorable when speeds a factor. Just my 2 cents. Good luck with the fball.
FKH
FknKnuckleHd said:
I'd second that, I definitely find my wind is greatly reduced on dbol. Might be effective off-season for strength and size depending on your position, but it may be better to avoid even then as it will hurt your speed and endurance atleast for the duration of the cycle.
silverbackn
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Maybe the shit wasn't legit? I was using Pets Pharma, it's the only kind I have used. I had nothing to compare it to. Anybody else used this? I was using up to 50mg's a day with 700mg's of enanthate and 400 of EQ a week.idcbp said:
silverbackn
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I have used mostly QV stuff, but never the d-bol. I think the stuff I got was legit, all the stuff I got with it was. I just don't have anything to compare it to because I have never used any other d-bol.Makavelli said:
Makavelli said:
Mak, dumb question but is the qv dbol tabs or liquid? I just thought that qv was quality vet prod which are mex vet. products and I didn't think they made dbol tabs. Maybe I'm off cuz I know I've heard of them, figured I'd ask since you mentioned it. Is it the same qv who makes test200 (cyp.) and deca200 with the terrier on the box?
Silver, as far as the legitimacy of the dbol you mentioned, I can't say myself. The lower back pumps are not a consistent thing though so I wouldn't use them as a measure of legitimacy. If you get the back pumps its a sure sign the dbol is working, but if you don't get them it doesn't mean the stuff is no good. I can't even put my finger on what provokes them when I'm using the same batch of dbol. Gains are the best measure although when stacking it is less clear. The dbol is very fast acting though so you should have seen the quick water gains before the other compounds kicked in. I'd judge based on that.
Makavelli
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idcbp said:Mak, dumb question but is the qv dbol tabs or liquid? I just thought that qv was quality vet prod which are mex vet. products and I didn't think they made dbol tabs. Maybe I'm off cuz I know I've heard of them, figured I'd ask since you mentioned it. Is it the same qv who makes test200 (cyp.) and deca200 with the terrier on the box?
Yeah, the D-Bol are tabs. QV makes anavar, primo, D-Bol, winny, and anadrol tabs. I think that's hilarious!When was the last time you gave your poodle a couple tabs of anadrol or D-Bol??!LOL! My "horse" loves them!
Yes they're the same company that makes QV teston(cyp 200) and deca 200 and 300. Great products!
Makavelli said:idcbp said:Mak, dumb question but is the qv dbol tabs or liquid? I just thought that qv was quality vet prod which are mex vet. products and I didn't think they made dbol tabs. Maybe I'm off cuz I know I've heard of them, figured I'd ask since you mentioned it. Is it the same qv who makes test200 (cyp.) and deca200 with the terrier on the box?
Yeah, the D-Bol are tabs. QV makes anavar, primo, D-Bol, winny, and anadrol tabs. I think that's hilarious!
Damn, thats too much. LOL Thats basically what had me confused for so long is that I had only seen the qv test200. It looked like it might be legitmate vet prod. Then I'm trying to figure the clinical use for dbol or drol on a dog and thats where I was getting lost. Primo, I don't love my dog that much.
