Milk Thistle

[martin uk]

I am starting a 8 week course of 2 x sust per week.
However I am going to kick start it wk 1-6 with 20mg of Dbol per day.

Should I take Milk Thistle with the Dbol or is the dbol dose low enough , I have used it in the past when I was doing silly amounts 6-8 dbols per day for 8 weeks, and took 1000 of MT per day.

Whatya Think ?

 

[maxpain]

I am starting a 8 week course of 2 x sust per week.
However I am going to kick start it wk 1-6 with 20mg of Dbol per day.

Should I take Milk Thistle with the Dbol or is the dbol dose low enough , I have used it in the past when I was doing silly amounts 6-8 dbols per day for 8 weeks, and took 1000 of MT per day.

Whatya Think ?

Milk Thistle is cheap. So why not go ahead and take it. I do, you can never be too careful with your liver.

 

[martin uk]

Cheers for that

 

[mrplunkey]

I read somewhere on this board that Milk Thistle can mildly interfere with gains. Currently using Tylers liver detox -- wouldn't that be a better choice?

 

[maxpain]

I read somewhere on this board that Milk Thistle can mildly interfere with gains. Currently using Tylers liver detox -- wouldn't that be a better choice?

I don't know about that???? I have always used it. If it interferes a little that's ok. I need my liver more than I need more muscle.

 

[Ulter]

Milk Thistle is not very good at protecting your liver from oral steroids. It's only been shown to protect your liver from organic toxins like mushroom poisons. You need to be using Tyler Liver Detox with oral steroids. It has ingredients that are specifically for protecting the liver against 17aa meds.

 

[Iron man]

Milk Thistle is not very good at protecting your liver from oral steroids. It's only been shown to protect your liver from organic toxins like mushroom poisons. You need to be using Tyler Liver Detox with oral steroids. It has ingredients that are specifically for protecting the liver against 17aa meds.

Very true and only a few dollars more.

 

[maxpain]

Milk Thistle is not very good at protecting your liver from oral steroids. It's only been shown to protect your liver from organic toxins like mushroom poisons. You need to be using Tyler Liver Detox with oral steroids. It has ingredients that are specifically for protecting the liver against 17aa meds.

Well hell then. I guess I'll just have to throw a couple of bottles of that in with my thermo/levorex order.

 

[ATLmuscles]

I've been using Milk Thistle and a product called "Liver Care" from Himalya Herbal. THey show reseach that finds it to be more effective than Milk Thistle. I've read of Tyler's before, but I can't find it anywhere. Where do you get it?? I'd like to read more about it.

 

[maxpain]

I've been using Milk Thistle and a product called "Liver Care" from Himalya Herbal. THey show reseach that finds it to be more effective than Milk Thistle. I've read of Tyler's before, but I can't find it anywhere. Where do you get it?? I'd like to read more about it.

No where locally that I know of. But the AF store has it. I have a order that I am getting together for them. So I am just going to throw it in there.

 

[Smokescreen]

Milk Thistle is not very good at protecting your liver from oral steroids. It's only been shown to protect your liver from organic toxins like mushroom poisons. You need to be using Tyler Liver Detox with oral steroids. It has ingredients that are specifically for protecting the liver against 17aa meds.

Ulter, how is it that Tylers is better than Milk Thistle? I have seen the ingredients of Tylers and all it is a bunch of vitamins and minerals that I'm sure I'm already getting from my foods, protein powders and my multi-vitamin pills.

 

[Ulter]

You're not looking at it very well. The Glucarate they use is patented by Ohio State University. I don't think you'll get that in your food. And if you were reading the ingredients carefully you'd see they have milk thistle in it. Just for that reason alone it would be better then milk thistle alone wouldn't it. But the Glucarate and other materials are the 17aa key to a liver detox. Yes it has liver vitamins but that's not all.

 

[Smokescreen]

You're not looking at it very well. The Glucarate they use is patented by Ohio State University. I don't think you'll get that in your food. And if you were reading the ingredients carefully you'd see they have milk thistle in it. Just for that reason alone it would be better then milk thistle alone wouldn't it. But the Glucarate and other materials are the 17aa key to a liver detox. Yes it has liver vitamins but that's not all.

So what ARE the key ingredients in it that make it so good? I know it has Milk Thistle...but the dose I saw was damn low!

 

[Ulter]

It's already been posted here about a dozen times in the last 4 years. Here go read the patent. http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-...s1='4845123'.WKU.&OS=PN/4845123&RS=PN/4845123

Yes the MT dose is low but that's because it's not alone. Any one of the single ingredients in Thermorexin are low. But not when you add them all up. 25mg of a steroid won't do much. What if you add up 25mg of EVERY steroid?

Sorry the link is too long for the board. It's patent #4845123 at the US patent office website.

 

[Smokescreen]

Good read!

 

[Frankieperfect]

word up

 

[Raffaz]

So is the tylers most effective for 17AAs? And if using injectables without orals, will the MT suffice? Cheers

Mick

 

[Ulter]

You don't need a liver detox with injectables except winny.

 

[Raffaz]

You don't need a liver detox with injectables except winny.

Never realised that, i thought all gear put stress on the liver. Ahh well thats gonna save me some money in the future.

Mick

 

[Ulter]

As much as I'd like the sale, I wouldn't lie to get it.

 

[mrplunkey]

You don't need a liver detox with injectables except winny.

Injectables (except winny) aren't necessarily hepatoxic, but can't they still mess-up liver values and/or lipid profiles? I'm taking my Tylers due to winny ATM, but I always thought it was good practice to keep an eye on your liver regardless of the AAS you're using.

 

[ATLmuscles]

No where locally that I know of. But the AF store has it. I have a order that I am getting together for them. So I am just going to throw it in there.

THANKS> I just checked out the site, and I'll get some there. Appreciate it.