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milk thistle w/ orals
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decem
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bump... i got some questions too.
how much milk thistle is recommended? is more better or is there only one effective dose and once you go above that you're just wasting it? also, is this shit proven to work or is it a waste of money like all that other herbal crap?
how much milk thistle is recommended? is more better or is there only one effective dose and once you go above that you're just wasting it? also, is this shit proven to work or is it a waste of money like all that other herbal crap?
UnderGroundLifter
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2 wks out before you start your orals, start taking 1000mg milk thistle ED plus Cranberry extract or juice. Use thru whole cycle.
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Adaptek
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UnderGroundLifter said:
can someone varify this?
Weam
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decem There is no constant dosage for Milk thistle, Milk thistle comes in several concentrations and the main active substance is Silymarin(silybin, silydianin and silychristin), some brands have 80% others 60% and so on, you can find it written on the supplement "milk thistle extract standardized to whatever% silymarin"
the recommended dosage for Silyamrin varies from 200-800mg/day divided into 3 doses throw the day
e.g if you got milk thistle with 60% concentration, and you wanna take 600mg silymarin then you're going to take 1000mg of Milk thistle
no1stunna Vitamins, Amino Acids and other supplements that protect the liver can be taken same time of consuming oral Steroid but regard herbs, I don't think it's gonna be a good idea, we still don't know if this herbs are going to interact with oral AS or not, just take herbs in between doses
the recommended dosage for Silyamrin varies from 200-800mg/day divided into 3 doses throw the day
e.g if you got milk thistle with 60% concentration, and you wanna take 600mg silymarin then you're going to take 1000mg of Milk thistle
no1stunna Vitamins, Amino Acids and other supplements that protect the liver can be taken same time of consuming oral Steroid but regard herbs, I don't think it's gonna be a good idea, we still don't know if this herbs are going to interact with oral AS or not, just take herbs in between doses
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decem
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weam
1st - thanx for tha reply
2nd - have there been studies proving this to be an effective protective measure against liver damage associated w/ AS?
1st - thanx for tha reply
2nd - have there been studies proving this to be an effective protective measure against liver damage associated w/ AS?
Weam
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You're welcome decam
here's some articles from various web-sites with medical references,
Milk Thistle has been found to reduce toxic fatty degeneration of the liver. reference Aust. Journal Medical Herbalism Vol 4 (1), 1992.
In 1969, the renowned phalloidine experiment was carried out by the researchers Vogel and Temme, Reference Arzneim Forsch 1969; 19:613-615. During this test, St Milk Thistle was proven to be liver protective. Phalloidine is extremely toxic to the liver. Milk Thistle can block its toxic effects, which indicates that it has powerful liver-protective capability.
Not only is this remarkable herb liver protective, it has also been found to help liver cells (hepatocytes) repair and regenerate themselves after they have been damaged. Milk Thistle contains a flavone which protects some of the intracellular components of liver cells (mitochondria and microsomes) from lipid peroxidation; this protective effect was 10 times more powerful than that of vitamin E.
The powerful detoxification enzymes in the liver that break down drugs and toxic chemicals are called the cytochrome P450 enzymes. These enzymes are improved by one of the components of Milk Thistle called silibinin.
A 3-month study following 67 patients with chronic hepatitis, toxic liver damage and biliary inflammation found that Milk Thistle greatly helped their liver disease. Reference: Talalaj S. A research paper--Silybum marianum. Sydney: NHAA, 1985.
many factors here are associated with the usage of 17alpha alkylated steroids especially the Cytochrome P450 enzymes as well as other factors of course
here's some articles from various web-sites with medical references,
Milk Thistle has been found to reduce toxic fatty degeneration of the liver. reference Aust. Journal Medical Herbalism Vol 4 (1), 1992.
In 1969, the renowned phalloidine experiment was carried out by the researchers Vogel and Temme, Reference Arzneim Forsch 1969; 19:613-615. During this test, St Milk Thistle was proven to be liver protective. Phalloidine is extremely toxic to the liver. Milk Thistle can block its toxic effects, which indicates that it has powerful liver-protective capability.
Not only is this remarkable herb liver protective, it has also been found to help liver cells (hepatocytes) repair and regenerate themselves after they have been damaged. Milk Thistle contains a flavone which protects some of the intracellular components of liver cells (mitochondria and microsomes) from lipid peroxidation; this protective effect was 10 times more powerful than that of vitamin E.
The powerful detoxification enzymes in the liver that break down drugs and toxic chemicals are called the cytochrome P450 enzymes. These enzymes are improved by one of the components of Milk Thistle called silibinin.
A 3-month study following 67 patients with chronic hepatitis, toxic liver damage and biliary inflammation found that Milk Thistle greatly helped their liver disease. Reference: Talalaj S. A research paper--Silybum marianum. Sydney: NHAA, 1985.
many factors here are associated with the usage of 17alpha alkylated steroids especially the Cytochrome P450 enzymes as well as other factors of course
liquidanny
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MT detoxes your liver and also generates regrowth....take it at all times.... honestly I'm not sure a study has been done to see if it interferes with AS...my guess: probably so...
