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Milk...does a body good?

cityhick

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I love my milk so I was doing a little research to see if I should drink as much as I do. Well to sum it up there are some ups and downs.

Ups..

High Protien...whey & casien

Raises insulin levels at a pretty good amount

Vast amounts of Amino acids

Lots of Calories

Pretty cheap and good as hell

Downs

HIGH in fat... depending on witch type

wvwn gastro-intestinal disorders ????

Well anyway I guess it overall is pretty good. Although I am not a carb sensitive person. But shit, if after a worout I mix my whey protein with milk that should give a little raise in insulin plus plenty of protien. I do not see much on this topic and was curious on what your guys feelings are torward it? Witch milk do you drink? How do you feel about muscle milk? My buddy seems to like it. I am sure most of you know plenty about it so help me out.
 
CityHick said:
I love my milk so I was doing a little research to see if I should drink as much as I do. Well to sum it up there are some ups and downs.

Ups..

High Protien...whey & casien

Raises insulin levels at a pretty good amount

Vast amounts of Amino acids

Lots of Calories

Pretty cheap and good as hell

Downs

HIGH in fat... depending on witch type

wvwn gastro-intestinal disorders ????

Well anyway I guess it overall is pretty good. Although I am not a carb sensitive person. But shit, if after a worout I mix my whey protein with milk that should give a little raise in insulin plus plenty of protien. I do not see much on this topic and was curious on what your guys feelings are torward it? Witch milk do you drink? How do you feel about muscle milk? My buddy seems to like it. I am sure most of you know plenty about it so help me out.


dont use milk much anymore...main reason was the amount of sugar in it....also i dont give this post alot of time before its moved by radar or mr x to the diet board, they are on top of this pretty much all the time....
 
CityHick said:
Shit. My fault. This is just the forum that I do most of my research on... wont happen again.

no problem bro i understand alot of people come here so thats why people post it here....im just saying dont be surprised if it gets moved thats all....btw only dairy i use anymore is cottage cheese and just at night before bed.....
 
I used to drink a shitload when I was in my early 20's-a gal/day at least. Unfortunately if I drink more than 16 oz or so I get gas so bad I feel like a football is shoved up my ass. I don't think milk is good for thicker skinned guys like myself though. Too much sugar and not enough bovine growth hormone for my tastes. lol Plus I'm still not convinced that drinking another animal's milk is that great of an idea. If you think about it, a cow's milk's primary pupose is to bring a 50 lb calf to 400lbs in a 3 month period. So for guys watching their waistline I don't think drinking a lot of milk is a good idea.
 
Bozwell said:
I love milk 2-4 pints ed every day ,full fat not that skimmed shit ;)

well im on about 4pints a day, thats all i have with my protein shakes. however it is that semi skimmed shit!
 
I drink milk all the time ,lactaid 2% fart free milk. Cereal,oatmeal/cream of wheat/cocoa at night to help me sleep. I think there is something in milk that makes me horny too. I'm ready to go at night and in the morning in the daytime too. No wonder my loads looks milky,he,he.
 
If you check out the bio-avaiiblity of different foods, then you will se that milk is #2 on the list. The most bio availible food is the egg...@ 98%. The next closest is milk @ 88%.
I drink about 4 gallons per week...Skim!
 
BigCracker said:
If you think about it, a cow's milk's primary pupose is to bring a 50 lb calf to 400lbs in a 3 month period. So for guys watching their waistline I don't think drinking a lot of milk is a good idea.


That's true, but I'm very Endo and use skim milk in all my shakes while dieting down..... I'm also lactose intolerant, so I can't digest the sugar in milk, so I'm not sure if I get an insulin spike from milk.... Always wondered about that....

rizz
 
CityHick said:
I love my milk so I was doing a little research to see if I should drink as much as I do. Well to sum it up there are some ups and downs.

Ups..

High Protien...whey & casien

Raises insulin levels at a pretty good amount

Vast amounts of Amino acids

Lots of Calories

Pretty cheap and good as hell

Downs

HIGH in fat... depending on witch type

wvwn gastro-intestinal disorders ????

Well anyway I guess it overall is pretty good. Although I am not a carb sensitive person. But shit, if after a worout I mix my whey protein with milk that should give a little raise in insulin plus plenty of protien. I do not see much on this topic and was curious on what your guys feelings are torward it? Witch milk do you drink? How do you feel about muscle milk? My buddy seems to like it. I am sure most of you know plenty about it so help me out.

Even if you normally arent intolerant to lactose or fat, large amounts of milk may upset your stomach, since your tummy only produces certain amounts of enzymes.
Protein shakes are better imo.
 
I personally love milk. I could drink a gallon of skim per day. However there is a fuck load of sugar in it. I can not get lean while drinking a lot of milk
 
I am not worried about my waistline. My body does a good job no matter how shitty I eat. I am not looking to be shredded just big with definition, i dont need 8%BF. I eat on the better side and as long as I stay away from junk food and other unhealthy shit I can stay at a pretty good level. And when i get my gear that should help me down to about 15% im at 20%bf right now... been slaking a little on the diet. As long as I keep my protien in check and hit the diet hard when the gear comesin I think I should be fine.
 
well everyone is pissed at me at work, as i nick all the milk for my protein shakes. :verygood:

so its black tea and coffee for everyone else :
 
Here is a study I found about how cows are given IGF-1 to increase their milk production. But it also says that healthy adults only absorb a limited amount of IGF-1. But when using NSAIDS, the intestinal absorbtion is increased.

Here's the article:

Many People are Taking IGF-1 Without Even Knowing It

Dr. Mercola's Comment:

My Associate Editor and I had the following letter published on the web site of the Western Journal of Medicine.

It was written in response to a recent Op-Ed piece (West J Med 2001;175:7-9) concerning the use of IGF-1 (insulin-like growth factor-1) by athletes, who use it to enhance their performance. Unfortunately, levels of these growth hormone and insulin mimicking substance are elevated in our milk supply, due to the use of rBGH (also known as rBST) to increase the cow's milk production.


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by Joseph Mercola, DO and Cory Mermer

Adams does an excellent job of discussing the dangers of the exogenous IGF-1, and properly cautions against its use, citing both lack of efficacy and potential adverse effects, such as disruption of the insulin system and carcinogenesis.

However, it is worth noting that much of the US population are unknowingly consuming higher levels of IGF-1 than previously and may face the same elevated risks, since it has been shown that milk from cow's treated with rBGH (Posilac) have significantly elevated IGF-1 levels. Measuring these levels has even been proposed as a basis by which to test for the use of rBGH (1).

In addition, the IGF-1 in the milk of rBGH treated cows is potentially more bioactive than the naturally occurring form and may be increased further by pasteurization (2).

While Adams notes the lack of significant effects of IGF-1 administration in elderly subjects, this certainly does not mean that this would be true for children, who may be at an increased risk of adverse effects.

Children's rapid growth rate may predispose them to be more susceptible to IGF-1. In addition, children's intestines, particularly infants, are naturally more permeable than adults, which could allow greater absorption of the large IGF-1 peptide.

While it has sometimes been assumed that IGF-1 can't be significantly absorbed when taken orally, several studies have demonstrated that this is not the case.

It was found that premature babies who were given breastmilk in addition to formula had almost double the serum IGF-1 levels of those receiving formula alone (3). This is not surprising, since breastmilk contains IGF-1 and formula does not, but it does strongly suggest intestinal absorption.

It was also demonstrated that people who consumed 3 servings of milk daily had a 10% higher serum IGF-1 level and almost a 10% lower level IGF Binding Protein 4 (IGBP-4) than those drinking less than 1-1/2 servings (4).

While IGF-1 may only be absorbed in limited quantities in healthy subjects, this is likely not be the case for those suffering from various conditions that can cause increased intestinal permeability, such as celiac disease, Crohn's disease, autism, cirrhosis, and cow's milk allergy, just to name a few.

In addition, the use of various medications, such as aspirin and other NSAIDs can increase intestinal permeability and it is estimated that 10% to 20% of the general "healthy" population suffers from this condition as well (5).

It is not enough to look at healthy adults and say that the intestinal absorption of IGF-1 is negligible. Rather, the most vulnerable in society need to be protected.

Adams eloquently points out that the use of IGF-1 for enhancing athletic performance "ignore(s) our understanding of the integrated nature of physiologic systems". However, this same ignorance was used when the FDA chose to approve rBGH.
 
I live off of milk. Milk is my bread and butter, I drink a gallon a day of skim. It's just about the only high protein food I can eat (drink) constantly without getting sick to death of it. The sight of a can of tuna makes me sick to my stomach, the same with skinless chicken breasts. I can eat the fuck out of some red meat though.

Milk is also dirt cheap and easy to carry around, which is important to me because I'm a college student that has pretty much no time to cook meals. I can chug about 5 or 6 cups before work and bring another 10 cups in a thermos and drink it throughout the day. That right there is a gallon and has 154 g of high quality protein.
 
i have mixed feelings... i noticed that milk makes me smooth out a lil, some people say its just because of the extra calories youre getting from milk...but im not to sure about that
I do know that milk is great when you are on a cycle though, the extra calories fats and protiens make for a great dietary aid
and as far as milk muscle goes i think its a great product
 
I can tell you guys that drink a gallon a day to drink a ton of water. Calcium
build up can cause kidney stones. It took years for me to get them, I was 32. I was killing the milk and not much water. Cranberry helps too Ive heard.
I drink about one and a half gallons of 2% now a week with alot of water.
 
ryan04 said:
I live off of milk. Milk is my bread and butter, I drink a gallon a day of skim. It's just about the only high protein food I can eat (drink) constantly without getting sick to death of it. The sight of a can of tuna makes me sick to my stomach, the same with skinless chicken breasts. I can eat the fuck out of some red meat though.

Milk is also dirt cheap and easy to carry around, which is important to me because I'm a college student that has pretty much no time to cook meals. I can chug about 5 or 6 cups before work and bring another 10 cups in a thermos and drink it throughout the day. That right there is a gallon and has 154 g of high quality protein.


With a diet so high in protein, you need to consume about a gallon of water daily for it's detoxifying effects. It would be pretty difficult for most peeps to consume 2 gallons of anything in a given day. That much liquid would have most people pissing every 20-30 minutes all day/night long.

All that calcium/protein is gonna be tough on the kidneys over time if you're not drinking enough water. Sure, there's water in the milk-but it's not the same as drinking plain water.

Tuna isn't so bad. I put it in the blender with Diet Coke and drink it.
 
Tuna isn't so bad. I put it in the blender with Diet Coke and drink it.[/QUOTE]

Did I read that correct? You put canned tuna fish in a blender with Diet Coke and drink it? Just curious on the outcome.
 
surferstar said:
Tuna isn't so bad. I put it in the blender with Diet Coke and drink it.

Did I read that correct? You put canned tuna fish in a blender with Diet Coke and drink it? Just curious on the outcome.[/QUOTE]


Yeah bro, I down it all at once. It's nasty as hell, but anything's better than trying to choke down tuna straight from the can with a fork. After year after year of eating 2+ cans of tuna a day, the thought of having to eat another sounds about as inviting to me as playing leapfrog with a unicorn.
 
Busamuscle said:
It was found that premature babies who were given breastmilk in addition to formula had almost double the serum IGF-1 levels of those receiving formula alone (3). This is not surprising, since breastmilk contains IGF-1 and formula does not, but it does strongly suggest intestinal absorption.

The reason colostrum is effective (it will also make your hair fall out!)

Still looking for that breastmilk source...
 
Singleton said:
The reason colostrum is effective (it will also make your hair fall out!)

Still looking for that breastmilk source...

Now if I could just get my girl pregnant and get some of this rbgh stuff I would be good to go! :) As for you that girl in that avatar of wirednutz may be able to help you ;)
 
Bozwell said:
I feed myself like I feed my plants
lots of wholsome organic feed with plenty of chemicals ;)

The ladies are so beautiful aren't they bro? Not to mention the love they give after curing :qt:

Happy growing!
 
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