Military and Steroids...

[HaZaRDouZ]

I know there's a lot of people in the Military who take steroids cause I've seen a lot of jacked up Marines. I was curious I know they test for 3rd party drugs like weed, ex, and cocaine, but what about steroids? I mean doesn't the high level of test show up on their tests? Thanks for any input.

 

[littleb]

no they dont test without reason,, too much $$$$

 

[housemusik83]

i was in marines for 4 years, and never got tested once.... couple of my boys got busted while on deployment to Afghanistan because some fucking rat told the wrong persons and they got cought with gear in their bags... but they will only test you if they have reasonable doubt and have a fucked up chain of command...

 

[MichaelScott]

so if you look like ronnie coleman they may get suspicious

 

[smtimelevi]

Mods there should be a sticky about this. Somebody asks at least once a week.

The random urinalysis is only for rec drugs. They wont test unless there is a reasonable suspicion. The test is too expensive. Even then they may not, it all depends on the folks your serving with.

I know this from person experience. Myself and a handful of others in my element all lifted together. I did my first cycle while in, they knew I was on. Just got lucky to be in with people that didnt care, a few admired it. It was kind of an on going joke. ************ is on steroids. How you like those needles in your ass **********?

There are steroids that are in and out of your system quickly if its a concern. Dont forget that low dose test wont even show unless its a blood test and they are specifically looking for it.

 

[HaZaRDouZ]

Mods there should be a sticky about this. Somebody asks at least once a week.

The random urinalysis is only for rec drugs. They wont test unless there is a reasonable suspicion. The test is too expensive. Even then they may not, it all depends on the folks your serving with.

I know this from person experience. Myself and a handful of others in my element all lifted together. I did my first cycle while in, they knew I was on. Just got lucky to be in with people that didnt care, a few admired it. It was kind of an on going joke. ************ is on steroids. How you like those needles in your ass **********?

There are steroids that are in and out of your system quickly if its a concern. Dont forget that low dose test wont even show unless its a blood test and they are specifically looking for it.

good info... so 500mg a week of test, 400mg a week of deca, and 200mg of dbol won't show in a regular test? only a specific steroid test?

 

[littleb]

i use while in as well never got tested....

 

[smtimelevi]

Not in the normal randoms screenings. But deca will stay in your system for 18 months if a steroid test is administred. Bad idea if you ever blow up and they do decide to test you.

200mg of dbol? You mean per week?
Is this your first cycle?

If so it sounds like thats too much gear. Save yourself the money and nasty sides, use half that dose. I would go with 20mg/day of dbol for the first 4 weeks to get things started. 12 weeks of test e 250mg /ew. I think for a first cycle it would yield some good gains without being too obvious. Just try to keep as gradual as possible.

What I was saying that even low ammounts of test are undetectable with steroid tests, a blood test would be required for detection since test is naturally occuring. A low dose may only put a user into the high normal range. Not grounds for punitive action if it were to go there.
This is your future were talking about. Dont get a dishonorable discharge over something you could do in a few years when you get out. So be careful.

 

[HaZaRDouZ]

Not in military, buddy is. And also I meant 25mg a day of DBOL for 6 weeks.

 

[RecoveR]

I'm in no way in the military but..

I wouldn't be surprised if there's some "don't ask, don't tell" thing going on that no one is let in on. Steroids enhance performance. A soldier who uses steroids correctly has better performance than he would without them, and you can bet the military researched the shit out of that. Remember - they give amphetamines to pilots, they do drug up personnel with serious performance enhancing drugs.

If somebody handles their steroids well (no serious sides interfering with performance, no personality changes, no turning into the Hulk with nondrug grunts getting envious) its simply not in the military's interest to actively hunt down steroid users. Who carries the tripod, the mortar, loads the artillery shells better than someone giving it 110% or even 150%?

With Deca you are giving the military your best shot (lol), with heroin, no good will come of it.
They give you amphetamine when you are up and morphine when you are down - the military aren't pussies about drugs.

Its not the money. Most gear has long detection times and the military spends money like water. Its not in their best interest to actively persue steroid users who do it right.

If you do it wrong, and your gear gets in the way of your performance, the mission, decision making or morale, or with overt use or being caught with gear - then they might test and if they find you positive - their hand is forced.

Just my 2mg!