Mike Mentzer - His Theories...

[JKurz1]

Just finished the third book and am a little torn. For those who have studie Mike or possibly use his HIIT split routine, discuss with me your thoughts, opinions, successes, failures.

 

[Svetislav_aka_Waczlaff]

by the way - I am a natural lifter....

have use some years ago such HIT Training - no compare to the 5x5 in gaining strenght and/or lean body mass, for me it was not very effective... think beginner could work with it but that was it....

his success come from excessive use of drugs and roids no wonder that he died 'young'....

 

[JKurz1]

by the way - I am a natural lifter....

have use some years ago such HIT Training - no compare to the 5x5 in gaining strenght and/or lean body mass, for me it was not very effective... think beginner could work with it but that was it....

his success come from excessive use of drugs and roids no wonder that he died 'young'....

Oh bullshit dude.....he used to train with the high rep and high set typical bb routine for much of his tenure....wasn't till the last few years that he started with HIIT....talk to me....tell me your routine, time used, etc....

 

[jpt]

i think that once you develop that type of size and muscle maturity that he did...that routine worked for him. i think this type of training should be limited to advanced lifters...i personally have never used any of his training theories but i believe a 5x5 is more sound. would like to hear from people who have tried both though

jkurz- also, wasn't he mentally unstable when he started preaching these 1-2 set tactics?

 

[JKurz1]

i think that once you develop that type of size and muscle maturity that he did...that routine worked for him. i think this type of training should be limited to advanced lifters...i personally have never used any of his training theories but i believe a 5x5 is more sound. would like to hear from people who have tried both though

jkurz- also, wasn't he mentally unstable when he started preaching these 1-2 set tactics?

Good question......was Dorian?

 

[Svetislav_aka_Waczlaff]

don't read any books from Mike, so you are better informed about all than me- I think his HIT-Training is only one workset will done absolutely to failure, or follow by drop sets, I am not sure... - long time ago but nevertheless, the bb-stuff if metzer's or arnolds don't work for people who train on natural basis and also no effetive templates gaining strength....

 

[jpt]

did dorian employ those theories to build his frame or did he start using these theories at the end of his career? my point is i think it would work for gentecially gifted people who already have acheieved advanced status...if i started training like this i could guarentee i would see 0 results

 

[Svetislav_aka_Waczlaff]

another example....

a few years ago (at my beginning of "fitnesstraining" bought a book from arnold schwarzenegger from beginning of the 80's I think...

the split for advanced was like this :

Mon morn. Chest, Back
Mon even. Biceps Triceps
Tue morn. Legs, Calves
Tues even. Shoulders, Traps
Wed morn. Chest, Back
ect ect to saturday afternoon......
Sunday = Off

5 Sets : 15/12/10/8/6 reps

for every mucle group appr. 3-4 exercises , always the same....

try it for two weeks and see what happens......

think we should pay more attention not to any bodybuilder but to people like Bill Starr, Glenn Pendlay, Marc Rippetoe....

it is clear that most of the people are impressed from the amazing body of these bodybuilders and unfortunately the Newbies only pay
their attention on that what they tell or what is noted in these bodybuilding magazin, because "damn it works and it seemed that they only
have the good genetics and definitely train 6-8 hours per day, yayayayayaaaa......" look into the forum of t.-nation, a lot of naive people there...

 

[jpt]

^^ agreed.....to be a professional bb means you are genetically gifted...otherwise everyone would be one. i've seen that splite before and only certain people would be able to handle that typ of workload...beginners def would not

 

[silver_shadow]

here's a discussion on MMs HIT from a few months ago
http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/showthread.php?t=482897&page=1&pp=20