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Mid-cycle blood work

bblazer

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Here is a list of the labs that have been ordered for me to check things mid-cycle (400 test c/week). Should I consider any others?

CBC with platelet and differential
DHEA Sulfate
Dihydrotestosterone
Estradiol High Sensitivity
Fasting Insulin
Glucose
Hemoglobin A1C
IGF1 (Somatomedin C)
IGF BP3
Lipid panel
Progesterone
PSA
Testosterone, total and free
Liver panel


Thanks!

B-
 
just out of curiosity why are you getting checked midcycle for your test levels...i usually do a before and post recovery after test but never mid cycle cuz i know that my test levels are completely off during cycle...

btw, if you are on winny or anavar, DON'T get your HDL and LDL levels checked or you're not going to be a happy camper lol...
 
you having this done at your medical center or using one of the online places?
 
splperformance said:
btw, if you are on winny or anavar, DON'T get your HDL and LDL levels checked or you're not going to be a happy camper lol...


exactly why he should get them checked, that way he can take action if needed to help raise/lower
 
mwm5 said:
exactly why he should get them checked, that way he can take action if needed to help raise/lower

If he is using those, it is a foregone conclusion they are messed up and he should be taking as many preventive measures as he can anyway.
 
bblazer said:
The test levels are being checked to see how the current dose has raised my levels.

B-

If your gear is good, you can be sure your levels are very high. Not sure I see the point of knowing exactly what the test levels are while on. Seems like a waste of money if you have to pay, and if you are on insurance, you will need a medical reason to have testosterone checked.

Personally I would wait a couple months after the cycle to check recovery, but that's just me.
 
Some points

1) I am having this done at my local hospital and paying cash.

2) Often we check levels before and after a cycle for a baseline analysis. I never see any testing done during a cycle. Doesn't it make sense to get an idea of how a drug is affecting you? Or to be even more specific, what a dose or dose range does to your particular levels? How do I know if 400 test c a week is too much or not enough? What about estrogens at this dose? Do I have room for more? We get really specific about PCT, but why not have that same specificity during? Maybe if we had things checked during a cycle we may be able to adjust dosages to prevent things like gyno from happening before it's too late and we have to add another chemical to our systems.

3) As I said in my OP, I am on 400 test c per week. That's it.

4) IMHO, quantifying what we are doing here is not a waste of money. We do it with the results don't we? As in "I gained 12 lbs lean muscle and lost 4 lbs of fat and gained 3 " in my arms." Wouldn't it be nice to know that you did that on a serum test level of 865, and you needed X mg/week to get that?

B-
 
bblazer said:
Some points

1) I am having this done at my local hospital and paying cash.

2) Often we check levels before and after a cycle for a baseline analysis. I never see any testing done during a cycle. Doesn't it make sense to get an idea of how a drug is affecting you? Or to be even more specific, what a dose or dose range does to your particular levels? How do I know if 400 test c a week is too much or not enough? What about estrogens at this dose? Do I have room for more? We get really specific about PCT, but why not have that same specificity during? Maybe if we had things checked during a cycle we may be able to adjust dosages to prevent things like gyno from happening before it's too late and we have to add another chemical to our systems.

3) As I said in my OP, I am on 400 test c per week. That's it.

4) IMHO, quantifying what we are doing here is not a waste of money. We do it with the results don't we? As in "I gained 12 lbs lean muscle and lost 4 lbs of fat and gained 3 " in my arms." Wouldn't it be nice to know that you did that on a serum test level of 865, and you needed X mg/week to get that?

B-


An easy way to determine it without a blood test is to see what dosage works for most people. For example, we know that 500 mg per week of test generally produces good results for most people, hence the recommendations of 500 mg you often see on the board. Also, I have seen charts that show serum test levels based on dosages, and know for example, that for most people 200 mg of test will produce about 1300 ng/dcl 3 days after injection. You can then calculate the levels through the week based upon half-life. I am sure there are charts out there that have the figure for 400 mg/week.

Regarding adjusting PCT/gyno prevention to your bloodwork, once again, there are too many variables to draw such specific conclusions about what dosage of x you should take in response to a given serum level of y. A certain amount of estrodiol/progesterone may cause gyno symptoms in one person and not in another. So knowing the levels of these is not going to help you much. The best line of defense is simply to take what is generally recommended when you take test - an aromatase inhibitor like aromasin - through your cycle, and then simply watch your body and be observant about gyno symptoms and take measures to curb it if they come up. Once again you don't have to reinvent the wheel, since we generally know what things help with gyno if you are taking test (nolva, for instance). Same with PCT. We know your natural test levels will be very low, and we know generally what helps bring them back, and at what doses.

Further, getting readings of something at one stage in your cycle does not mean much since these readings could change as your cycle progresses, so do you want to keep getting tests?

I guess, if you don't care about the money, etc. great get the blood work done mid cycle. It would be interesting as matter of pure curiosity, but I doubt it will help much in deciding what you should take for PCT or gyno prevention, etc.
 
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