haha. man... dbol only cycles will give you "gains". there is no disputing that. however...those gains come fast, and leave just as fast when u stop the dbol. i love dbol, i will not cycle without it. i'm not going to tell you that you're an idiot for not researching prior to cycling, but5 thats what you should have done. if you can get dianabol, you can get test. when starting a cycle i have always had the most amazing results by cramming as much creatine/protein into as possible for a week before starting, and for the first 4 weeks taking 50mgs a day dbol, splitting the dose so that i can ingest a fraction of that 50mgs every four hours. dbol has a very short half life, and splitting as i do maintains an almost steady level in my blood. when using test-e, it takes about four weeks for the level of testosterone to "plateau" in your blood. now about the clen...Actually...clen's more appropriately (bear with me here) anti-antianabolic, I believe...and probably most useful for PCT....
Check this out...Hypogonadism increases glucocorticoid production(1), so after a cycle when you are hypgonadal, you should have more glucocorticoids floating around, right? Because you have stopped taking exogenous hormones and are now waiting for your own to begin production, so for that time, you are hypogonadal.you have more glucocorticoid production going on. Well, clen is a glucocorticoid antagonist (2), so it should stave off some of them...and note that in studies, the researchers have also associated clen with an anti-anabolic effect (2); you will not necessarily synthesize protein into new muscle, but it's not being inhibited either, and thereby causing a halt in Fat Free Mass accrual potential.
A study by Sharpe et. al. (done in 1986 called "Control and Manipulation of Animal Growth") states that glucocorticoids are anti-anabolic and not catabolic. Basically, what I'm saying is that, in answer to Heywood's statement, Clen is probably anti-antianabolic, and not actually anti-catabolic (as many including myself) have thought before. It will, therefore, halt the glucocorticoid induced inhibition of protein synthesis (in humans), but probably not do anything to increase that synthesis to where new muscle is built....but on PCT when glucocorticoids will be produced in excessive amounts due to your hypogonadal state, it would seem that clen would be very (!) beneficial. Hence...clen can preserve your ability (potential) to build muscle, but is probably not anabolic or even anti-catabolic per se.
Things get confusing at this point, because different studies can show different things regarding clen and anabolism vs/ catabolic hormones. The most relevant one, however, was done on standardbred horses who were given clen and exercising vs those who were just exercising and not using clen (they had a drug tested bodybuilding competition coming up) and the control group was not taking clen, nor exercising (due to work and family comittments). In that study, the horses who took the clen had lower cortisol levels at all times than the other two groups (3). Horses, it should be noted, have a response to excersize which is similar to humans (3).
Finally, I think that any anabolic effect of clen would be dose dependant, and eventually rely on other mechanisms of action than cortisol inhibition, for this effect, as rodents given an anabolic dose of clen (hundreds of times what a human could reasonably take) actually experienced increased cortisol levels (4). Thus, the anabolic effect of clen, as relates to the cortisol reducing effects of it, experience an inversely proportionate U-Shaped curve relative to each other.
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