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Michael Moore on the O'Reilly Factor tonight

casualbb said:
Eventually he found someone who would say yes.

He didn't have to look far because the UK, UN and Russian intel sources as well as the CIA all agreed he had WMD or the capability to produce WMD and the willingness to sell it to terrorists. Also established link to Al-Q.

Post 9-11 world + New Bush Doctrine + Iraq already on our shit list = Invasion


This phase of the war on terror is almost over. Soon hopefully you guys will be whining about our invasion of Syria.
 
Wrong - the British report on the "WMD" was infamously plagiarised from a student's PhD thesis and caused an embarrassing climb down by MoD (Ministry of Defence).
Care to cite refs for the Russian and UN Intel ?
 
Mandinka2 said:
Wrong - the British report on the "WMD" was infamously plagiarised from a student's PhD thesis and caused an embarrassing climb down by MoD (Ministry of Defence).
Care to cite refs for the Russian and UN Intel ?
where you been mang?
 
Of course there's no documentation on that, save for someone's fiction novel he wrote after not getting treated the way he wanted and had an axe to grind.

casualbb said:
O'Reilly's claim: Bush didn't lie, he acted honestly on faulty intelligence.

That's not 100% true. In the days after 911, which Moore was TRYING to say while getting interrupted, was that Bush went to the intelligence officials and said "Look into Iraq." They said we got no link. He then made them double- and triple-check it. They stuck to their guns.

Eventually he found someone who would say yes.

The point is, before launching a hugely expensive and American life-risking endeavor, he was NOT saying "Are you super-sure these guys pose a threat? We need to be 100% sure." Instead he SOUGHT and seized upon the faulty evidence that was given and pushed us into it.

All OReilly could say was "blah blah blah brutal dictator." Which is obviously bullshit, there are a dozen equally brutal biatches in other nations.

THAT'S why moore was trying to force OReilly to answer the "would you send your children" question, and that's why the big O kept avoiding it. The underlying question was, do the premises of war hold up to scrutiny such that YOU would send your child to risk his/her life? And OReilly's implied answer was no.
 
Code said:
Of course there's no documentation on that, save for someone's fiction novel he wrote after not getting treated the way he wanted and had an axe to grind.
There are at least 8 current written documentaries on the exploits and misdoings of the Bushbarians.


Probably not found at local BX. :)
 
LOL, BX. Haven't heard that since 1990.



Testosterone boy said:
There are at least 8 current written documentaries on the exploits and misdoings of the Bushbarians.


Probably not found at local BX. :)
 
casualbb said:
O'Reilly's claim: Bush didn't lie, he acted honestly on faulty intelligence.

That's not 100% true. In the days after 911, which Moore was TRYING to say while getting interrupted, was that Bush went to the intelligence officials and said "Look into Iraq." They said we got no link. He then made them double- and triple-check it. They stuck to their guns.

Eventually he found someone who would say yes.

The point is, before launching a hugely expensive and American life-risking endeavor, he was NOT saying "Are you super-sure these guys pose a threat? We need to be 100% sure." Instead he SOUGHT and seized upon the faulty evidence that was given and pushed us into it.

All OReilly could say was "blah blah blah brutal dictator." Which is obviously bullshit, there are a dozen equally brutal biatches in other nations.

THAT'S why moore was trying to force OReilly to answer the "would you send your children" question, and that's why the big O kept avoiding it. The underlying question was, do the premises of war hold up to scrutiny such that YOU would send your child to risk his/her life? And OReilly's implied answer was no.

I am very anti-war but I think that Moore did a very poor job of arguing our case.
 
Tiervexx said:
I am very anti-war but I think that Moore did a very poor job of arguing our case.

I agree, that's why I was trying to explain the argument in a not retarded way. ;)
 
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