mg Dosage for D-bol...

[mountainhawk53]

Hi there,

First cycle of steroids...nervous about the dosage per mg I should be taking of D-bol especially, since ive heard about its nasty side effects. I am 260 lbs and play a sport at a very high level. I was leaning towards taking 35 mg on my peak weeks....is that ok? Any informed advice would be greatly appreciated!!

DP

 

[GUARDIAN]

Hi there,

First cycle of steroids...nervous about the dosage per mg I should be taking of D-bol especially, since ive heard about its nasty side effects. I am 260 lbs and play a sport at a very high level. I was leaning towards taking 35 mg on my peak weeks....is that ok? Any informed advice would be greatly appreciated!!

DP

Peak weeks?

dbol only as your first cycle? what lead u 2 this choice?

age/height/weight/bf%/training history?

 

[eddymerckx]

^^what he said

 

[mountainhawk53]

Sorry, new at this...give me a few tries and maybe i wont sound like an idiot...

Peak weeks meaning on most cycles you build up to a certain dosage that you max out at (ex 40 mg. in week 5, decreasing week 6, etc...)...ive heard it referred to as the peak...anyways...

I am doing d-bol mainly because it was referred to me by a friend who was in the same position as I was (newbie, never done anything like this before)....taking it as a trial run....

I am 21, 6'0, 260 lbs, 16% bf as of 4-21, lifting since I was 16

I am trying out steroids, just wanting to know a safe dosage. Thanks

 

[eddymerckx]

we all sound like idiots--it is just a matter of degree so no worroes....

now, i am a believer of two things:

1. gear use should not start before 25; and

2. d-bol only cycles only add, then subtract water.

 

[herdus33]

dont do d-bol only......especially if you play sports....the leg pumps will be terrible and way too much bloat. Do a little more research. Even if you come to the conclusion of doing an oral only cycle, dont do d-bol. Be sure to read up on PCT (post cycle therapy) too.

 

[mountainhawk53]

I gotcha...greatly appreciated. What should I add with d-bol (at a low dose) to a cycle to make it worthwhile....and what should that dose be? I was thinking 20 mgs....thanks again for the info, couldnt find any definitive answers on the net.

 

[hehateme000]

300mg test a week for 10-12 weeks
dbol for 6 weeks

research pct then ask questions

 

[AhMadKooL]

first off i don't believe in tapering keep the dose the same from the begining
Secondly, a simple test cycle would suffice for your first cycle

 

[mountainhawk53]

learnin a lot....especially about PCT...this site is great for some overlooked yet important info for newbies such as myself...thanks again

 

[partagus]

If I were going to run my first cycle, I would probably just run test enth @ 250-300 mg per week.

I would already have my PCT planned out and I would also have everything I need for PCT on hand BEFORE I started my cycle.

I would also have a solid lifting routine worked out and my diet would be planned out as well. For the first week, I would have all of my food prepared and packaged and ready to go.

Also, I would wait until I was at least 25 years old to run a cycle. But if you're determined to do it, then you will, so at least you're in the right place to find the best answers.

Welcome to the board!!!!

 

[herdus33]

Best advice ^^^^^ Low dose of test enth for 8-10wks is the perfect first cycle. PCT and nolvadex (in case gyno symptoms occur) on hand BEFORE starting cycle.

 

[bigslimfitting]

Word^^^^^. If you don't beleave them beleave me, a guy who is in first cycle, Didn't know about this web site till he was in it. Had a clue but not a totaly. And started it before i got my pct. Didn't even know about taking it after about 4 weeks on. Fuck man. Read this site for a while. Buy everything....fuck buy more than u need for for everything besides the actual steriods.
Peace

 

[Crysis6]

Word^^^^^. If you don't beleave them beleave me, a guy who is in first cycle, Didn't know about this web site till he was in it. Had a clue but not a totaly. And started it before i got my pct. Didn't even know about taking it after about 4 weeks on. Fuck man. Read this site for a while. Buy everything....fuck buy more than u need for for everything besides the actual steriods.
Peace

+1

You never know how YOUR body will react to anything foreign you put into it. Be prepared for any and all situations, and at 21... being able to get my dick up was kinda important to me, so have your PCT in place before doing anything. Keep reading and studying up, its your body...nothing is more important than that, so take the time and do it right.

 

[mountainhawk53]

I hear ya....read so much my eyes hurt last nite...right now ive decided im going to keep Nolva on the side just in case I need it...ive posted another thread with my full cycle on it (Win, Dbol, Var,Prov)....but im goin to be doing PCT during the whole thing...its a short cycle with low doses, all oral, so im close to being completely confident that things such as HCG are not completely necassary. Decided not to buy Clomid, other supps that are over the counter should be able to do the job...ill keep ya'll updated as I go...start my cycle May 11- end on June 21.

 

[GUARDIAN]

I hear ya....read so much my eyes hurt last nite...right now ive decided im going to keep Nolva on the side just in case I need it...ive posted another thread with my full cycle on it (Win, Dbol, Var,Prov)....but im goin to be doing PCT during the whole thing...its a short cycle with low doses, all oral, so im close to being completely confident that things such as HCG are not completely necassary. Decided not to buy Clomid, other supps that are over the counter should be able to do the job...ill keep ya'll updated as I go...start my cycle May 11- end on June 21.

Explain what u mean by "doing PCT during the whole thing"? PCT = Post Cycle Therapy not during cycle therapy (one exception is HCG but that still isnt PCT it is just to aide in recovery).

 

[sugashane]

The top 4 posts were dead on. Your steroid receptors are fresh and you still have a long way to go to reach your "ceiling" so to speak. Gains will come quicker and with less now. Low doses, don't stack compounds yet, and read more on PCT too. Drugs affect your body hours if not minutes after administering them. IT DOES NOT TAKE 12-16 WEEKS TO AFFECT YOUR BODY'S BALANCE. I'm not being an ass, but thats the most important thing i can tell you. Your natural production can still be affected with short cycles.

 

[mountainhawk53]

I understand...i know your not bein an ass, theres only so many ways to say the info your extending to me...Ive read a ton on PCT...and got a ton of differing and clashing info...VERY confusing...but I think Im narrowing it down...

PCT during the whole thing meaning keeping estrogen low and taking liver enablers (thistle, R-ALA) as well as keeping my doses of dbol low...var is mild and for the most part so is win...ive been told to take post cycle therapy close to the end of my cycle...if thats wrong please let me know

Once again, thanks for all the info its greatly greatly appreciated!!

 

[partagus]

I understand...i know your not bein an ass, theres only so many ways to say the info your extending to me...Ive read a ton on PCT...and got a ton of differing and clashing info...VERY confusing...but I think Im narrowing it down...

PCT during the whole thing meaning keeping estrogen low and taking liver enablers (thistle, R-ALA) as well as keeping my doses of dbol low...var is mild and for the most part so is win...ive been told to take post cycle therapy close to the end of my cycle...if thats wrong please let me know

Once again, thanks for all the info its greatly greatly appreciated!!

There are two schools of thought on running your first cycle. The first school of thought goes something like this:

It's your first cycle. You're introducing some very powerful compounds into your body. It is best to run only ONE compound to see how your body reacts to it. For example, if you run some test and kick it off with some dbol, and you have a negative reaction to it, or get some sides or gyno, you will not know which compound caused the sides. Was it the test or the dbol? That's why some people say only run some test at a lower dose. This happens to be what I believe in as well. Keep in mind though that I have NEVER used AAS (Yet).

The second school of thought goes something like this:

This is your first cycle. A lot of people say their first cycle is the best cycle they have ever done, gains/growing wise. So if you're going to do a cycle, do it right. Stack in test with a dbol kick start and end it off with some winny or var (Just an example, there are thousands of cycle stacks and combinations, but you get the point). People run a bunch of stuff all at once.

Each school of thought has merit. It all just depends on what you want to do. Don't be in a ruch to start gear until you have everything all dialed in. Good luck Bro and I look forward to hearing about your first cycle!!!!!

 

[mountainhawk53]

Ya ive heard both...and both make me curious and apprehensive ya know...so this was my plan for this cycle

-start with Dbol, the strongest of the supplements im going to take, and see how that affects me...if all goes well, keep the dosage im at
-move on to winstrol, and then proviron, and then anavar once im done with Dbol...give each of them time to see how they individually affect me...

hopefully the stepped-type of cycle will give me good results, but more importantly, show me how those certain substances influence me

Thats a great idea, thankyou

 

[herdus33]

It seems you are set on a stacked cycle. I would still reccommend doing a test only cycle for you first, but since you are set on stacking, you probably will do that.

As for the cycle you have suggested, I would drop the proviron all together. It doesnt seem to have an extra benefits over any of the other orals you have chosen (besides a small amount of estrogen blockage). Dbol is pretty much the opposite of winstrol/anavar. Dbol is more of a mass builder and winstol/anavar are more lean mass/cutting orals. I think you should make a decision between them. Figure out if you want to do a bulk cycle or a lean mass/cutting cycle.

 

[Pat_McCrotch]

dbol only cycle is great. You can add 20lbs on cycle in 6-8 weeks and keep half if you PCT, eat right, and train right. Dbol can you terrible pumps when training so if it is for sports it may not be a great cycle for ya.

I am all about all oral cycles if kept under 8 wks max at a low dose.

Dbol is often taken at 50mg/day by most. Some have had great gains on 25-30 of dbol with less painful pumps. at least in my experience.

If you are gunna run it for 8 weeks stick to a lower dose. My personal rule of thumb is no more than 50/day for 6 weeks which is a total of 2100mg. if you are gunna go longer then adjust your daily dose to meet that total mg dose. This is not science but just personal preference.


I just re-read at 21 you are too young in my book. People still grow naturally at 21 by leaps and bounds.

 

[Pat_McCrotch]

It seems you are set on a stacked cycle. I would still reccommend doing a test only cycle for you first, but since you are set on stacking, you probably will do that.

As for the cycle you have suggested, I would drop the proviron all together. It doesnt seem to have an extra benefits over any of the other orals you have chosen (besides a small amount of estrogen blockage). Dbol is pretty much the opposite of winstrol/anavar. Dbol is more of a mass builder and winstol/anavar are more lean mass/cutting orals. I think you should make a decision between them. Figure out if you want to do a bulk cycle or a lean mass/cutting cycle.

I know alot of peeps who use these two on bulking cycles. Winny yes is veiwed as a cutter but it is also a bulker. Var yes it is great for hardening the muscles but the strength you get can help you out in a bulking cycle to go heavy. Provi allows for more free test to circulate in the system. Provi is very very mild and would be a great add on.

 

[herdus33]

Pat McCrotch, Yes you are correct, anything can be used to do either bulking or cutting depending on DIET. I was simply stating the normal uses for those compounds. As for the proviron, I personally didnt see that much of an added benefit when I ran it. Although I never went over 50mg ED. It just seemed a bit pricey for minimal results.

All in all, he should set up a planned cycle of very few compounds for a first cycle and have everything on hand before starting.

 

[Test Fuel]

Sheez -- did I read correct you are 260 at 16% all natural at 21 -- thats big bro --

What are your goals for your cycle bro? do you want to gain mass? strength ?

 

[sugashane]

Pat McCrotch is pretty dead on. And since tis is your first cycle, you won't have to use 35 mg aday, 20-25 would be plenty to bulk you up.

 

[herdus33]

Hi there,

First cycle of steroids...nervous about the dosage per mg I should be taking of D-bol especially, since ive heard about its nasty side effects. I am 260 lbs and play a sport at a very high level. I was leaning towards taking 35 mg on my peak weeks....is that ok? Any informed advice would be greatly appreciated!!

DP

Sports is the reason he should not use dbol. The leg pumps will be too much to handle. I think we are forgetting about the original post here.

 

[sugashane]

Sports is the reason he should not use Dianabol - methandrostenolone - . The leg pumps will be too much to handle. I think we are forgetting about the original post here.

I figured that it was his offseason. Tryin to get bigger and stronger for next year.

 

[herdus33]

I figured that it was his offseason. Tryin to get bigger and stronger for next year.

Goodpoint. I guess we need a little more info. Mountainhawk, chime in anytime here?

 

[mountainhawk53]

Thanks for the good info...

Pat McCrotch...I realize I am 21, but I have plateaued for a long time now; changed my diet, my workout schedule, even my basic supplements as well as sleep patterns, but nothing seems to work. Let me repeat I am taking LOW doses and seeing how it goes; one at a time...I dont want any negative effects believe me.

This is my offseason, so the leg pumps arent THAT big of a deal, even though I dont want to be completely layed out...small dosage hopefully means less of that...and Im experimenting because I do want to gain a little bulk and cut some fat....

batmaniac - ya thats what I am right now, weighed in at 263 today...16% bf as of 4/21....been told by many that im built for lifting...hopefully trying to get to a "lean" 275-280...

Thanks again for all the great advice guys its really appreciated; hell you guys probably saved me from a lot of stupid mistakes.

 

[the_alcatraz]

Explain what u mean by "doing PCT during the whole thing"? PCT = Post Cycle Therapy not during cycle therapy (one exception is HCG but that still isnt PCT it is just to aide in recovery).

lol +1 you cant do PCT during...the P in PCT stands for POST-cycle therapy.

 

[herdus33]

lol +1 you cant do PCT during...the P in PCT stands for POST-cycle therapy.

The only thing to say to that is good thing he came here first to learn BEFORE jumping into a cycle.

 

[mountainhawk53]

haha i realize that now...once again...one of the many clashing things i found out while doing research...but hey im comin around

 

[herdus33]

haha i realize that now...once again...one of the many clashing things i found out while doing research...but hey im comin around

Welcome to your second home. This place is addictive.

 

[mountainhawk53]

comin to find that out...just hoping this cycle works and that I didnt waste ma money...

 

[sugashane]

As long as you train as hard OFF cycle as you did on, and keep up a great diet and sleep schedule, you shoud be fine and keep a good amount of the gains.

 

[mountainhawk53]

usually work myself dizzy and sore for a week on whatever im workin that day...so thats the least of my worries...for me its usually the sleep part that i have to worry about...in my line of employment its hard to get a good internal clock goin

 

[ALIN]

Hi there,

First cycle of steroids...nervous about the dosage per mg I should be taking of D-bol especially, since ive heard about its nasty side effects. I am 260 lbs and play a sport at a very high level. I was leaning towards taking 35 mg on my peak weeks....is that ok? Any informed advice would be greatly appreciated!!

DP

30-40MG should is good range,,,but FAR better oprtions for 1st cycle than DBOL only course.

 

[mountainhawk53]

I hear ya...but its an oral, and thats all im able to do at this point, so im kinda stuck haha