Methyl-Trenbolone

[Big Rick Rock]

Some of you guys might have heard of MethylTrenbolone(methyltrienelone) Probably the most androgenic steroid on the planet.

Well, a company by the name of ALR Industries is producing a product called: "Max M-Dione" (methyldienelone)...

methyltrienelone (AKA: methyltrenbolone) and methyldienelone (AKA: Max M-Dione) are very, very similar... actually the single difference between the two is that methyltrienelone has an extra double bond at Carbon #11. Otherwise, these two compounds are chemically identical!

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-BRR

 

[jcam222]

i have read some pretty positive reviews out there on methyl dien....I have also however read its one of the most dangerous legals out there....my understanding is that it is extremely liver toxic..anyone else hear this?

 

[wnt2bBeast]

i used gaspari methyl-d with and saw absolutely zero gains from it..

 

[Big Rick Rock]

i have read some pretty positive reviews out there on methyl dien....I have also however read its one of the most dangerous legals out there....my understanding is that it is extremely liver toxic..anyone else hear this?

it is soppose to be pretty liver toxic, the recomended dose is between 3mg to 12mg per day (about the same as Methyl-Tren)


Quality varies from company to company. Some guys pay a little more to deal with a reputable producer and test the raws once they get them in. other companies just bargain shop on raw and never test them. ALR Industries is a top notch company, I trust their stuff.

 

[zxe003]

http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/showthread.php?t=340770

 

[jcam222]

I have read that when mdien first came out some of the folks making tabs and caps got a bad batch of powder (gaspari was one of them, I think ds did as well) subsequent batches were supposedly fixed.

 

[Big Rick Rock]

I have read that when mdien first came out some of the folks making tabs and caps got a bad batch of powder (gaspari was one of them, I think ds did as well) subsequent batches were supposedly fixed.

There are a bunch of different variables when raw materials are concerned. Some companies will go with the most reputable production plants and pay the price for a better product and to have it tested once it gets to the states. Some companies are happy with just sticking a label on it and never bother to test it.

As far as prohormones go I only trust HM Gear and ALR Industries. I know the owners of both companies and I know those guys are concerned with putting out the best product possible.

 

[macrophage69alpha]

There are a bunch of different variables when raw materials are concerned. Some companies will go with the most reputable production plants and pay the price for a better product and to have it tested once it gets to the states. Some companies are happy with just sticking a label on it and never bother to test it.

interesting that you mention this. Just recieved tests on about half a dozen manufacturers that make Creatine ethyl Ester. 2 of them were under 70% material (which is unstable) and 1 was selling creatine hcl and another creatinine. It is rediculous.

 

[jcam222]

interesting that you mention this. Just recieved tests on about half a dozen manufacturers that make Creatine ethyl Ester. 2 of them were under 70% material (which is unstable) and 1 was selling creatine hcl and another creatinine. It is rediculous.

That is amazing!! Are you all coming out with a creatine ethyl ester product soon? I saw Omega had something coming out with dicreatine malate. I have been using a product for about a week that is a combo of creatine ethyl ester and citrulline mallate.....not feeling much from it yet. I would buy a product from you like this above them anyday.

 

[Big Rick Rock]

interesting that you mention this. Just recieved tests on about half a dozen manufacturers that make Creatine ethyl Ester. 2 of them were under 70% material (which is unstable) and 1 was selling creatine hcl and another creatinine. It is rediculous.

Some companies really just don't fucking care. There are guys in the industry that have taken loses in material and production delays rather than put out a shitty product. But those are few and far in between.

On the same note... Some companies with the best of intentions, get fucked over by the supplier of their raws, or even by the plants that package their stuff... It is a sad world we live in.

 

[Big Rick Rock]

Here is a nice little offer from ALR Industries.

2 bottles of that sterile liquid (injectable) version of the Methyl-HydroxyNandrolone and 2 bottles of the Methyl-Trenbolone derivate -AND- a Free bottle of their Creatine ethyl ester: Click here.

 

[Ulter]

Some companies really just don't fucking care. There are guys in the industry that have taken loses in material and production delays rather than put out a shitty product. But those are few and far in between.

On the same note... Some companies with the best of intentions, get fucked over by the supplier of their raws, or even by the plants that package their stuff... It is a sad world we live in.

This is so true that it can't be repeated enough. Good looking out bro.

People should just stay away from these types of products because you simply don't know what you're putting in your body. This particular company ALR lists no address, no phone number, no assays of what is in their product, and is basically just a website saying, "hey buy this because we say it's good". Nothing like buying a potentially dangerous supplement from an email address for a contact us.
These are the "take your life in your own hands" type of supplement companies.

 

[Big Rick Rock]

This is so true that it can't be repeated enough. Good looking out bro.

People should just stay away from these types of products because you simply don't know what you're putting in your body. This particular company ALR lists no address, no phone number, no assays of what is in their product, and is basically just a website saying, "hey buy this because we say it's good". Nothing like buying a potentially dangerous supplement from an email address for a contact us.
These are the "take your life in your own hands" type of supplement companies.

ALR Industries is owned by Meso-Rx. I think their site is pretty clear about what is in their products.

 

[Ulter]

ALR Industries is owned by Meso-Rx.

Well that's good to know. Can you tell me how you know that? Because it's not on the website as of right now.

I think their site is pretty clear about what is in their products.

Yes they do say what's in their products. But there is no assay proving what's in their products.
And until I can figure out who THEY are I wouldn't believe them.

 

[Dragon14]

Ulter, what does "assay" mean, and how does it prove what is in a product?

 

[Ulter]

It's an analysis done by an independent lab to determine the purity and quantity of the material being tested.

As macro pointed out there are many companies saying they have Creatine ethyl Ester but in fact it's something else. Creatine ethyl Ester is very expensive compared to Creatine hcl for instance. The only way to be sure of what you are putting in your bottle is to get an independent analysis, or assay.

This is VERY common with R+ ALA. The only company that tests their product prior to bottling it is Glucorell R. EVERY other company simply takes the word of whatever Chinese lab they bought it from. Glucorell R sends their own chemist overseas to supervise the manufacture of their R+ ALA and then tests it here in the US at U of Syracuse or U of Wisconsin, before it's bottled. THAT'S the way you insure the quality of your product.
An interesting note- the last time we had material tested it was substandard quality. The manufacturer didn't care that we refused the material. They just sold it to SAN and they bottled it.
Again, this is why Glucorell R puts their independent assay on their website and no one else will do that.

 

[Dragon14]

It's an analysis done by an independent lab to determine the purity and quantity of the material being tested.

As macro pointed out there are many companies saying they have Creatine ethyl Ester but in fact it's something else. Creatine ethyl Ester is very expensive compared to Creatine hcl for instance. The only way to be sure of what you are putting in your bottle is to get an independent analysis, or assay.

This is VERY common with R+ ALA. The only company that tests their product prior to bottling it is Glucorell R. EVERY other company simply takes the word of whatever Chinese lab they bought it from. Glucorell R sends their own chemist overseas to supervise the manufacture of their R+ ALA and then tests it here in the US at U of Syracuse or U of Wisconsin, before it's bottled. THAT'S the way you insure the quality of your product.
An interesting note- the last time we had material tested it was substandard quality. The manufacturer didn't care that we refused the material. They just sold it to SAN and they bottled it.
Again, this is why Glucorell R puts their independent assay on their website and no one else will do that.

Thanks!