Methyl Dienolone

[northernknight]

What kind of experiences you have had with Methyl Dienolone/Methyl-D/M-Dien?
Nomenclature is:
17a-methyl-19-Norandrosta-4,9(10)-diene-3-one-17b-ol or 17a-methyl-17b-hydroxy-estra-4,9(10)-diene-3-one

Seems to be quite intresting DS for what I've found so far, but detailed info is hard to come by, since it was banned 2005 in US, and re-released just quite recently in UK. Doesn't seem nearly as toxic (or strong) as Methyl-Tren, but pretty powerfull stuff anyway.

How long, and what doses have you ran it?
Can side effects be compared to some any other substance/AAS?
Liver toxicity level?
Complete havoc for lipids?
Anything "special" to mention?
etc.

Considering that I might run it to finish up my 12 week Sustanon blast which I kickstarted with Dbol. Just haven't figured out how to get most out of it yet, there doesn't seem to be much up to date information or logs about it anywhere. If liver stress from it is extreme, I will propably skip it this time, and run it later, although there would be 4 week gap between Dbol, and I always use ton of liver supps with orals.

So, all information that you could provide about Methy-Dienolole would be great!

 

[RADAR]

What kind of experiences you have had with Methyl Dienolone/Methyl-D/M-Dien?
Nomenclature is:
17a-methyl-19-Norandrosta-4,9(10)-diene-3-one-17b-ol or 17a-methyl-17b-hydroxy-estra-4,9(10)-diene-3-one

Seems to be quite intresting DS for what I've found so far, but detailed info is hard to come by, since it was banned 2005 in US, and re-released just quite recently in UK. Doesn't seem nearly as toxic (or strong) as Methyl-Tren, but pretty powerfull stuff anyway.

How long, and what doses have you ran it?
Can side effects be compared to some any other substance/AAS?
Liver toxicity level?
Complete havoc for lipids?
Anything "special" to mention?
etc.

Considering that I might run it to finish up my 12 week Sustanon blast which I kickstarted with Dbol. Just haven't figured out how to get most out of it yet, there doesn't seem to be much up to date information or logs about it anywhere. If liver stress from it is extreme, I will propably skip it this time, and run it later, although there would be 4 week gap between Dbol, and I always use ton of liver supps with orals.

So, all information that you could provide about Methy-Dienolole would be great!

it is best to run it alone as it is very liver toxic and dosage should not exceed 3 to 4mcgs. It is very similar to trenbolone.

 

[northernknight]

it is best to run it alone as it is very liver toxic and dosage should not exceed 3 to 4mcgs. It is very similar to trenbolone.

That's pretty much what I expected to hear, but are you certain that we are talking about same compund here? I know it's very similiar to Methyl-Tren which was toxic as hell, and is measured in mcgs. It took a pretty long time for my liver values to come down after Methyl-Tren, although other side effects were pretty mild in my case, which is why M-Dien interests me.

I have no doubt that Methyl-Dien is also very toxic, only thing that doesn't seem right here is dose, Methyl-Dienolole I have comes in 4 mg caps, and everywhere in the +10 year old logs & other info that I have been able to find doses were measured in mgs. Here's part of manufacturers information on it:
Additional Information

Nutritional Information Each Pack Contains: 100 x 4mg Capsules- 17a-methyl-17 beta-hydroxy-estra, 4-9(10) dien-3-one
Directions We recommend a dose of 2 caps per day,evenly spread out. advanced users may use 3 caps.

We recommend no more than 30 days on m-dien.

During the m-dien cycle we recommend use of a liver care product,and on completion pct is a must.

 

[RADAR]

Yes you can run it that way ,as long as the dosage is divided up, and you do not run it longer than 30 days, Be sure to drink lots of water, and cranberry juice along with n2guard.

 

[northernknight]

Alright, thanks.

I was under an impression that the official recommendations on DS/PH dosages are usually aimed very low and length recommended is shorter than optimal. I have seen some opposites of this too though, some manufacturers advice to run extremely heavy combinations of 4-6 different PHs for 8 weeks with some milk thistle as support, which is just insanity Seems like they nailed it with this one. I hope that this won't be pulled off market just yet, I would love to get few more bottles in my stash. Last time I checked it went out of stock while I was reading upon some other products, so I just missed the last bottle in stock, lol!

Well, I think someone will make a thread here when things like Super-Drol, and Methyl-Dienolole will be banned in UK and/or EU.

I will definitely have stack of cycle support with this one, it resembles enough Methyl-Tren to make me cautious about it's toxicity. I seriously doubt that it will stay officially available for a long time, I'm not even sure that it is still available. Like mentioned above only supplier that I know to carry it just went out of stock, so I have no idea will they even make a new batch.

I use N2Guard, TUDCA, and maybe even some more added liver support like Liv52 with lot less toxic orals than M-Dien, so I will definitely utilize them all when running this. Cranberry juice is a great idea to add, I was going to get some before my next Tren run anyway, so I might as well get it before running this. Since there's also a chance for M-Dien to cause problems from increased Prolactin, I will have Caber on hand among other ancillaries. I will use Formestane during & after, and have Letro & Nolva behind a "break in case of emergency" glass. So I think I have pretty much everything covered, if I'm missing something, please point that out so I can fix the issue.
If someone just happens to read trough my long ass post, lol!

I will give this stuff a try depending on my blood test results, either at the end or right after this blast, or maybe wait until next year and start my next blast with this. I'm not in a hurry, and bloods will tell how I will proceed.


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[RADAR]

Good Luck, keep us posted