Methyl D or M1T?

[gjohnson5]

Methyl-d can be ran in longer cycles because of the last post i did. It has 10% of the side effects. You're not supposed to feel side effects when running it...
That's the whole point of running methyl-d instead of m1t.

People , please don't overdose on drugs. Read as much as you can before taking.
That shit can kill u.

 

[zxe003]

Methyl-d can be ran in longer cycles because of the last post i did. It has 10% of the side effects. You're not supposed to feel side effects when running it...
That's the whole point of running methyl-d instead of m1t.

I was only talking about the M1T. I hope the methyl-d delivers, I'm finishing up my bottle now, probably 4 or 5 more days worth.

 

[milo hobgoblin]

Use both.

M1T is defnitely easier on your body. the standrd dose is 15-25mg/day and is taken throughout the day.

MD has a standard dose fo 1-3mg a day.. its some STRING shit.. I was taking it 2 hours before the gym and it gave me insane pumps.

The gains from M1T were noticeable.. the MD just gave me good pumps.

Use both for 5-6 week cycles they are really cheap prohormones.

 

[ste_m]

if you do 3 tabs of methyl d a day, do you split the dose or all at once, and when?

 

[Billyd1]

Milo, you should know better, maybe it's just a typo but m1t is not a prohormone.
cheers
and amen to people being careful with this stuff, you guys taking 20mg are really taking a chance and have a greater "death wish" than me, I am sticking with 5mg's and then maybe going up to 10mg for week 2 , hell, i thought of even halfing the 5mg and starting out with 2mg.

 

[iron ogr]

Use both.

M1T is defnitely easier on your body. the standrd dose is 15-25mg/day and is taken throughout the day.

MD has a standard dose fo 1-3mg a day.. its some STRING shit.. I was taking it 2 hours before the gym and it gave me insane pumps.

The gains from M1T were noticeable.. the MD just gave me good pumps.

Use both for 5-6 week cycles they are really cheap prohormones.

This is just bad advise ...m1-t is NOT easier on your body. 5-6 weeks is TOO LONG to be on a methylated PH. 17aa methyls are very toxic to your liver and should never be stacked.

IMO M1-t should be used at the lowest effective dosage for no longer than 4 weeks. Most gains seem to stop around week three, going beyond 4 weeks is just abusing your liver. If you gain on 10mg/day there is no reason to go higher. You will not see any more results from 20mg if you are still gaining on 10mg.

 

[gjohnson5]

This is just bad advise ...m1-t is NOT easier on your body. 5-6 weeks is TOO LONG to be on a methylated PH. 17aa methyls are very toxic to your liver and should never be stacked.

IMO M1-t should be used at the lowest effective dosage for no longer than 4 weeks. Most gains seem to stop around week three, going beyond 4 weeks is just abusing your liver. If you gain on 10mg/day there is no reason to go higher. You will not see any more results from 20mg if you are still gaining on 10mg.

These drugs are , well were, classified as prosteriods not prohormones.
I have blood test to prove that M1t is 2x worse on your liver then MD.
M1t has 90% more side effects then MD.

As far as the stacking , I don't see a problem with taking m1t and m1d as long as you use tylers. A combination of glutathione , r-ala , and milk thistle should will your liver. I dropped these 2 above drugs and had a blood test done 2 weeks ago. Liver enzymes rebounded from 140ish level to about 35 (which is totally normal) by doing the above.

All is mute come January

 

[milo hobgoblin]

I stand corrected. hard to argue with a blood test.

and yes i know they are NOT prohormones.. its just a generic term for "legal" compunds.. I know that by definition they are steroid analogues.

Thanks for the blood test info.. good to know.

I disagree on the length of time though. Yes they will affect your liver but nto to the degree that a 5 or 6 week cycle will nto completely correct itself with 10-12 weeks off.

 

[gjohnson5]

I stand corrected. hard to argue with a blood test.

and yes i know they are NOT prohormones.. its just a generic term for "legal" compunds.. I know that by definition they are steroid analogues.

Thanks for the blood test info.. good to know.

I disagree on the length of time though. Yes they will affect your liver but nto to the degree that a 5 or 6 week cycle will nto completely correct itself with 10-12 weeks off.

It's hard to say. Once I discovered glutathione and anafit's glucorrel-r , my liver enzymes numbers moved back to normal pretty quickly. You can use tyler's which is also another anafit product , but I think if you ran m1t for 6 weeks and then did the above you can be back in 2-3 months. I used to overestimate liver damage too, but I have a gastroenterologist that I see and he doesn't gasp or anything at a 140 AST (SGOT) so I think it's safe for a people here to not worry too much about it. You liver has the ability to rebuild itself, so use the 3 above.

 

[iron ogr]

What kinds of gains did you see?? How long of a cycle and at what dosages??

My main point was that in my personal experience, gains consistantly stop around week #3 This has also been my findings w/ others on different boards. If there are little or no gains past the third week, running a six week cycle of m1-t is not beneficial.