Methyl D or M1T?

[Silent9]

I've been hearing about Methyl D a lot lately. Is it the same as M1T? I have heard nothing but good things about the effectiveness of M1T, but not much on methyl D. Which is better?...or more effective

 

[sweed]

They are not the same.. i heard methyl D is supposedly stronger than M1T but a lot worse for your liver, and m1t is pretty bad for it so.. Ya good things abuot m1t , i took it and got great results... but no more than 4 weeks, since its bad for the liver so take liver supps.

 

[Lift_till_you_puke]

I loved the way I felt and looked while I was on methly-d

 

[97Saleen]

I like the M1T a little better and most of the people I have talked to say they got better gains from M1T than the Methyl D

 

[Ulcasterdropout]

bump for research

 

[Lanceromance1]

I'm stacking both right now (20mg M1T & 3mg D/day) and the gains are coming on great. I'm trying to lean out in addition so I'm on a calorie restricted diet, which is why I'm so impressed with the gains. I feel a little moody sometimes but other than that absolutely no sides.

 

[gjohnson5]

They are not the same.. i heard methyl D is supposedly stronger than M1T but a lot worse for your liver, and m1t is pretty bad for it so.. Ya good things abuot m1t , i took it and got great results... but no more than 4 weeks, since its bad for the liver so take liver supps.

No methy-D is not as bad on liver as m1t it's abouit 1/2 as bad based on my blood tests

 

[zxe003]

I'm stacking both right now (20mg M1T & 3mg D/day) and the gains are coming on great. I'm trying to lean out in addition so I'm on a calorie restricted diet, which is why I'm so impressed with the gains. I feel a little moody sometimes but other than that absolutely no sides.

Probably don't need to run the methyl d. I guarantee you'll get good results with m1t alone. Plus with two methylated orals, you're beating up your liver bro. Make sure your running your milk thistle....and just to be safe, get your liver values checked at the end of the cycle. Also....a lot of people have been running 4 week cycles....call me chicken, but I won't go more than 2. Too little known about the shit right now. Give it a break after 2 weeks for about 2 weeks and then consider one more cycle. But chill for a while, after that.

 

[gjohnson5]

Probably don't need to run the methyl d. I guarantee you'll get good results with m1t alone. Plus with two methylated orals, you're beating up your liver bro. Make sure your running your milk thistle....and just to be safe, get your liver values checked at the end of the cycle. Also....a lot of people have been running 4 week cycles....call me chicken, but I won't go more than 2. Too little known about the shit right now. Give it a break after 2 weeks for about 2 weeks and then consider one more cycle. But chill for a while, after that.

Methyl-d can be ran in longer cycles because of the last post i did. It has 10% of the side effects. You're not supposed to feel side effects when running it...
That's the whole point of running methyl-d instead of m1t.

 

[TRUEsoldier]

Methyl-d can be ran in longer cycles because of the last post i did. It has 10% of the side effects. You're not supposed to feel side effects when running it...
That's the whole point of running methyl-d instead of m1t.

awesome post bro, I'lll look into some md now, I'm just trying to use up my bottle of m1t for now!!

Peace

 

[gjohnson5]

Methyl-d can be ran in longer cycles because of the last post i did. It has 10% of the side effects. You're not supposed to feel side effects when running it...
That's the whole point of running methyl-d instead of m1t.

People , please don't overdose on drugs. Read as much as you can before taking.
That shit can kill u.

 

[zxe003]

Methyl-d can be ran in longer cycles because of the last post i did. It has 10% of the side effects. You're not supposed to feel side effects when running it...
That's the whole point of running methyl-d instead of m1t.

I was only talking about the M1T. I hope the methyl-d delivers, I'm finishing up my bottle now, probably 4 or 5 more days worth.

 

[milo hobgoblin]

Use both.

M1T is defnitely easier on your body. the standrd dose is 15-25mg/day and is taken throughout the day.

MD has a standard dose fo 1-3mg a day.. its some STRING shit.. I was taking it 2 hours before the gym and it gave me insane pumps.

The gains from M1T were noticeable.. the MD just gave me good pumps.

Use both for 5-6 week cycles they are really cheap prohormones.

 

[ste_m]

if you do 3 tabs of methyl d a day, do you split the dose or all at once, and when?

 

[Billyd1]

Milo, you should know better, maybe it's just a typo but m1t is not a prohormone.
cheers
and amen to people being careful with this stuff, you guys taking 20mg are really taking a chance and have a greater "death wish" than me, I am sticking with 5mg's and then maybe going up to 10mg for week 2 , hell, i thought of even halfing the 5mg and starting out with 2mg.

 

[iron ogr]

Use both.

M1T is defnitely easier on your body. the standrd dose is 15-25mg/day and is taken throughout the day.

MD has a standard dose fo 1-3mg a day.. its some STRING shit.. I was taking it 2 hours before the gym and it gave me insane pumps.

The gains from M1T were noticeable.. the MD just gave me good pumps.

Use both for 5-6 week cycles they are really cheap prohormones.

This is just bad advise ...m1-t is NOT easier on your body. 5-6 weeks is TOO LONG to be on a methylated PH. 17aa methyls are very toxic to your liver and should never be stacked.

IMO M1-t should be used at the lowest effective dosage for no longer than 4 weeks. Most gains seem to stop around week three, going beyond 4 weeks is just abusing your liver. If you gain on 10mg/day there is no reason to go higher. You will not see any more results from 20mg if you are still gaining on 10mg.

 

[gjohnson5]

This is just bad advise ...m1-t is NOT easier on your body. 5-6 weeks is TOO LONG to be on a methylated PH. 17aa methyls are very toxic to your liver and should never be stacked.

IMO M1-t should be used at the lowest effective dosage for no longer than 4 weeks. Most gains seem to stop around week three, going beyond 4 weeks is just abusing your liver. If you gain on 10mg/day there is no reason to go higher. You will not see any more results from 20mg if you are still gaining on 10mg.

These drugs are , well were, classified as prosteriods not prohormones.
I have blood test to prove that M1t is 2x worse on your liver then MD.
M1t has 90% more side effects then MD.

As far as the stacking , I don't see a problem with taking m1t and m1d as long as you use tylers. A combination of glutathione , r-ala , and milk thistle should will your liver. I dropped these 2 above drugs and had a blood test done 2 weeks ago. Liver enzymes rebounded from 140ish level to about 35 (which is totally normal) by doing the above.

All is mute come January

 

[milo hobgoblin]

I stand corrected. hard to argue with a blood test.

and yes i know they are NOT prohormones.. its just a generic term for "legal" compunds.. I know that by definition they are steroid analogues.

Thanks for the blood test info.. good to know.

I disagree on the length of time though. Yes they will affect your liver but nto to the degree that a 5 or 6 week cycle will nto completely correct itself with 10-12 weeks off.

 

[gjohnson5]

I stand corrected. hard to argue with a blood test.

and yes i know they are NOT prohormones.. its just a generic term for "legal" compunds.. I know that by definition they are steroid analogues.

Thanks for the blood test info.. good to know.

I disagree on the length of time though. Yes they will affect your liver but nto to the degree that a 5 or 6 week cycle will nto completely correct itself with 10-12 weeks off.

It's hard to say. Once I discovered glutathione and anafit's glucorrel-r , my liver enzymes numbers moved back to normal pretty quickly. You can use tyler's which is also another anafit product , but I think if you ran m1t for 6 weeks and then did the above you can be back in 2-3 months. I used to overestimate liver damage too, but I have a gastroenterologist that I see and he doesn't gasp or anything at a 140 AST (SGOT) so I think it's safe for a people here to not worry too much about it. You liver has the ability to rebuild itself, so use the 3 above.

 

[iron ogr]

What kinds of gains did you see?? How long of a cycle and at what dosages??

My main point was that in my personal experience, gains consistantly stop around week #3 This has also been my findings w/ others on different boards. If there are little or no gains past the third week, running a six week cycle of m1-t is not beneficial.

 

[Lanceromance1]

Just finished 8 weeks of Methyl-D(3mg/day) and M1T(20mg/day). I've been taking in 1200 calories/day and I've managed to trim 5% fat and gain ~5lbs. This is the first time I've ever been able to trim the weight and gain. No sides other than increased sex drive. No liver issue to speak of (my shit has milk thistle in it).