Please Scroll Down to See Forums Below Anyone with any results feedback on this product...I am/was considering a var cycle, but this seems to be an alternative...Users only seem to be cycling for 2 weeks, due to liver toxicity..Its a 17aa, so why is it any different that other 17aa-AS, klike var for example..Again I'm looking for lean gains so I think that this might be along the correct lines..Peace
methyl-1-test
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dzuljas
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methyl-test will not give you lean gains. Unless you are using anti-es you will gain a lot of water weight from the estrogen bloat. Methyl-test is one of the most toxic orals out there. Cycling for 2 weeks will do shit for you. Thats how many lifting workouts? 8? You need time for your body to rest and grow, and you will be shut down after 2 weeks so it would be a waste
What is your previous cycle experience? Stats? Etc..
What is your previous cycle experience? Stats? Etc..
my stats & info: I am 35 , never used AS. I am a competative triathlete and compete mostly in the sprint events. I do not undergo drug testing. I train event specific 6 days a week and in the gym 3 days a week, mostly plyometric/power excersises. I am no stranger to lifting and training. I eat clean, work hard and have a good knowledge of training and diet.
6'4"/ 210lbs/ 7%bf
It is my understanding from reading that this does not convert into estrogen..perhaps post cycle anti-E is required due to suppression of HTPA....results are reported similiar to Tren..
As far as the 2 week cycle goes, I also feel that two weeks is insufficient, thats why I am inquiring as to why this compound is consider so toxic, when its a 17aa, just like many other oral AS...
6'4"/ 210lbs/ 7%bf
It is my understanding from reading that this does not convert into estrogen..perhaps post cycle anti-E is required due to suppression of HTPA....results are reported similiar to Tren..
As far as the 2 week cycle goes, I also feel that two weeks is insufficient, thats why I am inquiring as to why this compound is consider so toxic, when its a 17aa, just like many other oral AS...
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thetorch2k1
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of the many many posts i've seen about peoples results on m1t, maybe 3 of them complained about bloat. This compound isn't supposed to bloat you, maybe if they were stacking w/a test or 4ad then they were bloating, but m1t won't bloat(the large majority) of you.
Buy this stuff now before it gets pulled, its the best legal compound u can buy right now(not counting fina of course).
if u don't believe me that this is a lean gainer, check out the anabolcminds forum. All you'll hear around here is trash talk b/c of course, anything 'legal' is garbage right?
Buy this stuff now before it gets pulled, its the best legal compound u can buy right now(not counting fina of course).
if u don't believe me that this is a lean gainer, check out the anabolcminds forum. All you'll hear around here is trash talk b/c of course, anything 'legal' is garbage right?
M1t
I used M1T for 2 weeks and gained 9lbs. The first week consisted of 20mg ed in divided doses. It proved to be too much and felt kind of shitty. Dropped the dose down to 10mg ed for week 2. My strength is through the roof!! It gave me some gastro problems, but no bloat or any other bad sides to speak of. A slight elevation in BP, but not too bad.
I used M1T for 2 weeks and gained 9lbs. The first week consisted of 20mg ed in divided doses. It proved to be too much and felt kind of shitty. Dropped the dose down to 10mg ed for week 2. My strength is through the roof!! It gave me some gastro problems, but no bloat or any other bad sides to speak of. A slight elevation in BP, but not too bad.
Take it from me, who is finishing my 4 week cycle of m1t tomorrow...This stuff is sick. I havent even gotten gains this good outta fina.
Started at 189lbs, now 202lbs. And water weight?? cant see nothing but striations and veins all over my body, so that whole water bloat stuff is bull...
Cycle was as follows:
week 1 - 10mg m1t/600mg 4-ad/ milkthistle/ potassium/ multi-vit
weeks 2-3 - 20mg m1t/600mg 4-ad/ milkthistle/ potassium/ multi-vit
week 4 - 30mg m1t/900mg 4-ad/ milkthistle/ potassium/ multi-vit
Strength gains went crazy also...Tomorrow i will be posting my bench gains. I did straight bar 1 week BEFORE my cycle, put up 315lbs for 3 clean...
Havnt done straight bar since..only dumbells. Tomorrow i will do straigth bar to see what my gaisn exactly are..
As for dumbells, i used to max out with 120lbs for 4, the last 2 weeks i did 135lb dumbells for 8...so strength HAS gone up.
Leg press -- 540lbs/5 rep max in week 1. I put up 730lbs for 6 wednesday.
These arent my only gains trust me, just using this as a guideline in a way to show ya....
Check out all the info ya need at anabolicminds.com. I gotta lot of info there for my cycle. I think the whole liver potancy problems were overrated! A few guys who actually went and got tested after their cycles proved me right...check it out.
Piz
Started at 189lbs, now 202lbs. And water weight?? cant see nothing but striations and veins all over my body, so that whole water bloat stuff is bull...
Cycle was as follows:
week 1 - 10mg m1t/600mg 4-ad/ milkthistle/ potassium/ multi-vit
weeks 2-3 - 20mg m1t/600mg 4-ad/ milkthistle/ potassium/ multi-vit
week 4 - 30mg m1t/900mg 4-ad/ milkthistle/ potassium/ multi-vit
Strength gains went crazy also...Tomorrow i will be posting my bench gains. I did straight bar 1 week BEFORE my cycle, put up 315lbs for 3 clean...
Havnt done straight bar since..only dumbells. Tomorrow i will do straigth bar to see what my gaisn exactly are..
As for dumbells, i used to max out with 120lbs for 4, the last 2 weeks i did 135lb dumbells for 8...so strength HAS gone up.
Leg press -- 540lbs/5 rep max in week 1. I put up 730lbs for 6 wednesday.
These arent my only gains trust me, just using this as a guideline in a way to show ya....
Check out all the info ya need at anabolicminds.com. I gotta lot of info there for my cycle. I think the whole liver potancy problems were overrated! A few guys who actually went and got tested after their cycles proved me right...check it out.
Piz
Testopro one
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Bump for supplier.
fightercowboy
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Anyone found the cheapest place for it yet? I found http://milleniumfitness.com/methyl-1-test/ has it for 49.99. Any cheaper than that?
mongo..
Thanks bud...
Im doing a 6oxo p/c @ recommended usage. I have used fina..The word "shutdown" doesnt explain the pain i went through with fina. More like, turned off, kicked in the nuts, beaten i the head, and buried. Fina kicked my ass bad. I prolly wont ever use it again. if i do, the word "research" will be taken advantage of even more-so this time.
I got better gains from the m1t, and NO SIDE EFFECTS! it sounds too good to be true, but not one bad thing happened to me. I got a minor minor small amt of acne on chest...i dont think i can even blame it on the m1t, but i did occur when i took it so...if ya wanna say thats what caused it, then that would be the only side effect.
kilo has the best price, yes... BUT.
There are 3 companies i know of, (prolly 100 more i dont know of) that make "1-AD" dont forget....and NO ONE's comes close to ergopharms. Just becuase someone puts 1-ad on the lable doesnt mean its going to give ya the same gains as ergo's 1-ad. I know this from experience. Legalgear.com is where i got mine, and thats where i would recommend. Pricey, but to me...worth it. The $80 i spent on this cycle was more worth $120 for what i got back in strength, weight, and size gains...
Just my 2 cents, spend it or save it...
Piz
Thanks bud...
Im doing a 6oxo p/c @ recommended usage. I have used fina..The word "shutdown" doesnt explain the pain i went through with fina. More like, turned off, kicked in the nuts, beaten i the head, and buried. Fina kicked my ass bad. I prolly wont ever use it again. if i do, the word "research" will be taken advantage of even more-so this time.
I got better gains from the m1t, and NO SIDE EFFECTS! it sounds too good to be true, but not one bad thing happened to me. I got a minor minor small amt of acne on chest...i dont think i can even blame it on the m1t, but i did occur when i took it so...if ya wanna say thats what caused it, then that would be the only side effect.
kilo has the best price, yes... BUT.
There are 3 companies i know of, (prolly 100 more i dont know of) that make "1-AD" dont forget....and NO ONE's comes close to ergopharms. Just becuase someone puts 1-ad on the lable doesnt mean its going to give ya the same gains as ergo's 1-ad. I know this from experience. Legalgear.com is where i got mine, and thats where i would recommend. Pricey, but to me...worth it. The $80 i spent on this cycle was more worth $120 for what i got back in strength, weight, and size gains...
Just my 2 cents, spend it or save it...
Piz
It almost does sound to good to be true..I think I'm gonna give it a go and I'll post as well, I'll probably start in the new year at some point, I think I'll plan some milk thistle during and ZMA post cycle,just to be safe...I talked to the folks at Millennium Fitness and the said that they get their batch straight from LeagalGear so go figure...anyway, I'm going to go with them, and I'll see what happens...Peace Bro..
Sweed,
Milk thistle is a suppliment which helps your liver. m1t is "supposedly" very toxic (which is this is blown outta proportion personally) to your liver, so its recommened to take it while cycling m1t.
The good thing about milk thist is its cheap and you can take good sized amounts of it without doing damage.
I bought my bottle for $4.50 at a discount store and it came with 80 caps, 200mg per cap. The higher the dosage of m1t i took, the higher doses of milk i took. I mean, when i was taking 30mg of m1t, i was taking 800mg of milk thistle. this might sound like alot, but guys over at anabolicminds.com were telling me some were taking up to 2 grams of that shit a day (which personally, i think is too much - but it still doesnt hurt).
Like i said, you CAN take that much a day, and its still cost effective. In the end of it all, i was only taking 800mg e.d. and those guys were taking 2000mg e.d., and my liver was in just as good condition, so i think some wasted some money there...
Milk thistle is a suppliment which helps your liver. m1t is "supposedly" very toxic (which is this is blown outta proportion personally) to your liver, so its recommened to take it while cycling m1t.
The good thing about milk thist is its cheap and you can take good sized amounts of it without doing damage.
I bought my bottle for $4.50 at a discount store and it came with 80 caps, 200mg per cap. The higher the dosage of m1t i took, the higher doses of milk i took. I mean, when i was taking 30mg of m1t, i was taking 800mg of milk thistle. this might sound like alot, but guys over at anabolicminds.com were telling me some were taking up to 2 grams of that shit a day (which personally, i think is too much - but it still doesnt hurt).
Like i said, you CAN take that much a day, and its still cost effective. In the end of it all, i was only taking 800mg e.d. and those guys were taking 2000mg e.d., and my liver was in just as good condition, so i think some wasted some money there...
Potassium is for the water. Thats another thing. Take lots of potassium. Not like 800 grams...but somewhere around 900mg-1000mg. It helps cramping alot!!
I never tried kilo's. Only the one from legalgear. from the results ive been hearing, legal's is better, but like i said, you might wanna go over to anabolicminds.com and ask. Those guys know their shit...
Hope I helped and if ya got more ?'s, ask away!
PizZ Z Z z Z zzz
I never tried kilo's. Only the one from legalgear. from the results ive been hearing, legal's is better, but like i said, you might wanna go over to anabolicminds.com and ask. Those guys know their shit...
Hope I helped and if ya got more ?'s, ask away!
PizZ Z Z z Z zzz
Nice info Piz. We all appreciate the feedback.Just wondering what are your stats, sounds like you're pushing some heavy iron??
Anyway,FYI, talked to the folks at Millenium Fitness ( I am in no way involved with any company) and they seemed genuinely helpful. The have their m-1-t on back-order right now from Leagalgear.
I was thinking of a Var cycle myself, but I think I'll give this a try first...I have also done a cycle of 1-Ad and Avant Labs test-transdermal..I honestly only felt a slight edge in strength with these prohormones, they didn't seem to take me to the next level..anyway sounds like the boyz are getting some results with this so we'll give it a go...Later
Anyway,FYI, talked to the folks at Millenium Fitness ( I am in no way involved with any company) and they seemed genuinely helpful. The have their m-1-t on back-order right now from Leagalgear.
I was thinking of a Var cycle myself, but I think I'll give this a try first...I have also done a cycle of 1-Ad and Avant Labs test-transdermal..I honestly only felt a slight edge in strength with these prohormones, they didn't seem to take me to the next level..anyway sounds like the boyz are getting some results with this so we'll give it a go...Later
mongo -
Im 5"11
202lbs
6% bf
22 yrs old
max bench 345lbs 3 reps
max squat 450lbs 5 reps
max leg press 730lbs
Anything im missing??
Hey guys i meant to say, i know m1t is relatively new so its hard to know how to cycle it. I got all my cycle info from some bros over at AM.com. If you guys are just interested in some ways to cycle it, PM me and I'll give you my full cycling information, and you can deficer from there how you can cycle yours accordingly.
pizzzz
Im 5"11
202lbs
6% bf
22 yrs old
max bench 345lbs 3 reps
max squat 450lbs 5 reps
max leg press 730lbs
Anything im missing??
Hey guys i meant to say, i know m1t is relatively new so its hard to know how to cycle it. I got all my cycle info from some bros over at AM.com. If you guys are just interested in some ways to cycle it, PM me and I'll give you my full cycling information, and you can deficer from there how you can cycle yours accordingly.
pizzzz
M1T
Wanted to throw another post on here... I gained 9lbs, kept 7lbs, from a 'two weeker'. (See my previous posting on page 1 of this thread). I have been clean for one week and starting up again. Dosing is 10mg ed **PLUS** I am throwing 12.5mg of Dbol on top of it. This may not be the smartest thing, but I am being cautious and using milk thistle, NAC, and L-methionine. I am keeping tabs on BP and will discontinue using all this crap at the first sign of any touble. With that said I will keep you posted.
Wanted to throw another post on here... I gained 9lbs, kept 7lbs, from a 'two weeker'. (See my previous posting on page 1 of this thread). I have been clean for one week and starting up again. Dosing is 10mg ed **PLUS** I am throwing 12.5mg of Dbol on top of it. This may not be the smartest thing, but I am being cautious and using milk thistle, NAC, and L-methionine. I am keeping tabs on BP and will discontinue using all this crap at the first sign of any touble. With that said I will keep you posted.
Sir Foxx
New member
Screw VPX. The cost is like 10 times what the others cost and you get no advantage. What really makes them slime is they are trying to say that because their M1T is in a polylipid, it will mean less stress on the liver, which is complete bullshit. Don't support a company that lies about potential health risks just to make money.
Also, don't take any of the liver protectors(milk thistle, NAC, etc.) while on cycle. All this does is increase the breakdown of the product, thereby making it less effective. Wait until after the cycle to use stuff like that.
Also, don't take any of the liver protectors(milk thistle, NAC, etc.) while on cycle. All this does is increase the breakdown of the product, thereby making it less effective. Wait until after the cycle to use stuff like that.
sawastea
Well-known member
Sweed said:
1) Here is the Legal Gear at BB.com at a reduced price. This product also contains NAC (N-Acetyl-Cysteine)
http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/legal/methyl.html
2) thefren, M-1-T isn't anything to fvck with. Unless you're familiar with PH's and have some history with them, I'd steer clear. You're better off with 1AD/4AD to start with, IMO (once you get older, of course
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thefren
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sawastea, I've done cycles of Nutrex T-1 and 1AD, gained a lot of strength, but not much muscle. one side-effect: didn't get layed for a few months which sucked. yah, once i get older this might be banned. unless some research institute produces the ultimate muscle gaining whatever in the next 10 years.
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