Methods Of Taking Fina

[CUBANITO]

if your not ready to make that step than you shouldnt be doing AS.

 

[Riker29]

Just the nature of this question shows that the poster has done little research, and has not taken a lot of time to acquire real knowledge of what he is doing.

First, in defense of him, these guys who state that injections are THE only way to go, or who state they are "not that bad" are off. Sure - they are not that bad. But for some people injections are simply not an option. There are a LOT of people with very very powerful needle phobias and there is no way they can simply "deal with it". I have worked with some of these people to cure these phobias but you must know what you are doing.

And to say that injection is the ONLY way, is wrong.

Injection IS far more effective, but that does not mean that various transdermal methods do not provide any benefits at all.

Injection is more effective than >
transdermal which is more effective than >
oral.

In that prgression, by the time you DO get to the Oral option, the truth is that it is very inefficient.

The main objection I have in this post is that it shows a lack of knowledge of the transdermal options. There are several methods available.

It seems that the kid (and you ARE a f'ng kid and should not be doing AS anyway, but thats another story ......) is only aware of DMSO. And THAT shows me that he does not know much.

There are other options such as:

PLOGel
Ethyl Alcohol
Finasol (spray-on)
Isopropyl Mystiriate (sp?)

These and things like them can be used in various ways to make creams that are rubbed on, or liquids that are rubbed on or sprayed on, that will work.

They are NOWHERE near as efficient as injecting, but they will work, just adjust the dose accordingly.

 

[BBBodie]

I noted your comment about "sticking it up your ass", etc.....now seriously, Arnold told a competitor at the 6th Olympia back stage......make sure you pop a few M&M's up your ass the night before, those help your veins pop out with all the sugar saturation.......no really it works....and away he went to give it a try.....(now that's a true story)



Seriously, you've got the methods, I've done transdermal and since it opens your blood stream to viruses, I backed off of that, it's (sorry bro) for morons willing to take a very big risk.....and I fell into that category so I'm guilty too.

There is NO substitute for IM, none, nada. If you can't/won't use pinz, then switch to something else, just not Fina.

My 2 cents, your mileage, as always, will vary,

Bo

 

[JayBro]

There is no proof that topical delivery is more effective than oral delivery. They are both said to deliver somewhere around 20%.

 

[jboldman]

Where do people get these numbers from! ? 20%/40%/80%
Show me some blood work. I can tell you that no matter what the absorbtion rate is for dmso, it works! Period! Yes, there are drawbacks but it can still provide an effective adjunct or even stand alone for someone not interested in stacking.

There is no proof that topical delivery is more effective than oral delivery. They are both said to deliver somewhere around 20%.

 

[BBBodie]

Where do people get these numbers from! ? 20%/40%/80%
Show me some blood work. I can tell you that no matter what the absorbtion rate is for dmso, it works! Period! Yes, there are drawbacks but it can still provide an effective adjunct or even stand alone for someone not interested in stacking.

Yes, it does work, but it's far less effective. I've done both, and my ND actually did some lab work for me......my DMSO ratings were about 28mg overall (by volume)....when IM, I have averaged about 100mg saturation (since there's a 24-48 hour half life).

OF serious note, my white blood cells were EXTREMELY elevated using DMSO, hence I switched immediately....So go back and read my previous post, then do whatever you plan to do (my hunch is you're just looking for something that won't involve pinz....no sweat, it's not for everyone, just like riding Harley's isnt for boys...it's a mans bike....), you open your body to all pathogens....plain and simple when you use transdermal.

With all that said, it's your call, you've heard from folks that have done the work as well as the research , so what is really your point?

Are you looking for something easier to do than pinz? as my gal has said to one or two of our friends(shes a nurse)....if it's available via IM, suck it up and do it, don't be a pussy around sharp objects....just get educated"....and that's from a woman who lifts, competes and draws blood all day long.... Makes you proud.

 

[Riker29]

Yes, it does work, but it's far less effective. I've done both, and my ND actually did some lab work for me......my DMSO ratings were about 28mg overall (by volume)....when IM, I have averaged about 100mg saturation (since there's a 24-48 hour half life).

How much Tren was applied using DMSO vs via IM methods for this comparison?

Meaning, did you do like 100 mgs/day using DMSO, and 100 gs/day using IM, to get those saturation levels?

This would be a very interesting comparison to get some real numbers to the efficiency of these 2 methods, compared side-by-side.

 

[BBBodie]

I was doing 75mg/ed for IM and rubbing on 8 crushed pellets per day for the other....so that's 80mg.....absorbtion equates to 18-22% or so using trans.

the measures reflect half lives of Tren.....think.... (the grey matter between the ears)....Tren in this form is 24 to 48 hours, so let's say this

IM -
Day Dose Level
Day 1 75 75
Day 2 75 110
Day 3 75 118
Day 4 75 118

Transderm -
Day Dose Level
Day 1 80 19
Day 2 80 29
Day 3 80 34
Day 4 80 34


Two things to learn here - if you want the same impact as IM, you need to use about 3-4x as much (that's 20 plus pellets a day)

Learn to live with burned skin is the other (and have a small supply of anti-biotics for your health).

Bo

 

[Riker29]

I was doing 75mg/ed for IM and rubbing on 8 crushed pellets per day for the other....so that's 80mg.....absorbtion equates to 18-22% or so using trans.

Wait ...... those pellets are 20mg each, so you were doing 160 mg/day.

However, the math is still correct in that I show that it resulted in the DMSP being only 22.75% as effective as the IM method.

So, roughly, 4x as much.

So for the "standard" 75mg/day of Tren, that would be 300 mg/day administered via DMSO, or 15 pellets per day.

Wow.

 

[RussianBro]

Riker is right, some of people have BIG problem sticking those needles up theirs'... I had to administer to both of friends of mine here. And one of them freaked out every time before he even saw the needle. Anyway, I think in this situation the best thing to do is really to use orals for this guy...
The best thing I experienced was a cycle of dbol only and then after that realizing how much bigger I can get with injectibles... It worked, it might take few oral cycles, but it shell come...
You'll be alright, bro... In a year (let me predict) you will join our camp of ass pockers...
Good luck to you...