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mesotheraphy, lipo and living hell

taste-icles

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Ok boys, I have done eca, clen, and dnp, and had always heard that meso does not work in men because our fat is fibrous as opposed to clumpy in women and that meso would produce spotty results.

I have been on this board for a few years and am very skeptical of anything, and recently met a guy that claimed it (meso) actually does work. he looked pretty good at the gym, but not spectacular, though admittedly he was the most cut up of anyone. he stated that he was pretty fat, father of 4, office job, and had only been working out for about a year now and still eats mcdonalds atleast once a week for breakfast. over a 6 month time frame, he said he spent close to 3 grand, and the results were even, but at first, he did not notice anything, it took until the third treatmen before he really noticed it. something like 5 inches off his waist.

I am packing on pounds from a medical reason, not a diet and excersize one, and as you can imagine it is like a twilight zone episode watching yourself balloon out like this. just last week, i blew out my knee. it is swollen and purple, but no surgery is needed, i just need to rest for about a month, maybe longer, so that kills my treadmill time and i am switching to indoor rowing now.

here's the deal. I am going to be on tv sometime in late january, i need to figure out some suggestion and i also have a girlfriend that wants to be a fiance and that will probably happen around xmas and we would more than likely get married in the spring, so you can imagine, a lot of factors are leading me down paths i normally would not take.

this is probably more for some experience stories, and vets if you'd rather pm me, that would be great too.
 
I have never heard of anyone having this done, and don’t know if it works,

I live in Newport also and had lipo done down in Laguna Hills, that worked great.

When you work out where do you go.
 
Okay I am a woman so take what you will......I had it twice and nothing...I can tell you one thing it was the most god awful hurtful experience I have ever had...I mean painful....and with no results ....I would never recommend it to anyone....my friend does it and other things for a living so I didn't even payfor it....never again lol
 
You sound a little stressed bro. Might want to relax as stress can hurt the physique. You shouldnt be packing on fat just because you cant run though? Diet + upper body work should atleast keep you in good enough shape.

PF
 
ProtienFiend said:
You sound a little stressed bro. Might want to relax as stress can hurt the physique. You shouldnt be packing on fat just because you cant run though? Diet + upper body work should atleast keep you in good enough shape.

PF
upperbody workout? lol, I am a steadicam operator. one of the fastest on my feet too. I am used to running up and down stairs leaping over walls, and i am/was very active in parkour (google it!) as for diet, i worked with a nutritionist that helped the latest superman get in to shape.

this truly is a case of 'sculpting'

the problem compounds itself because my gut is now chafing the rig, and when i go to do legpresses, my knees reach my chest and i can't breathe at all. yeah i am easily doing 8 plates and a ton of reps, but the incredible discomfort cuts me short.

i never really believed in meso to be honest with you, heck i don't believe in dnp either, but i had to experience that first hand. three times and one near death experience later, i ain't going back. but desperate times call for desperate measures.

while my key health issue (liver and kidneys) levels off, i would like to do something and honestly, i have been shot, stabbed and almost impaled, but yet the idea of a scalpel and a hoover kinda rubs me the wrong way. that and i have no idea of the cost/downtime. currently i can still work and this time of year it is sporratic but the pay is awesome, so i could be missing a 3-5k/day gig if the lipo for example makes me sit it out. i suck with money too, so as soon as i do a gig, its gone.

mak, thanks for the bump bro, i gotta hook you up one of these days :)
 
Diet is your best bet bro. Nobody fuckin gets it! You can do practically anything with your diet; it's the best tool you got. I don't even have to do cardio, and I can shred up like no other with proper diet; same with bulking. Diet, diet, diet, diet, diet, diet, diet!
 
taste-icles said:
upperbody workout? lol, I am a steadicam operator. one of the fastest on my feet too. I am used to running up and down stairs leaping over walls, and i am/was very active in parkour (google it!) as for diet, i worked with a nutritionist that helped the latest superman get in to shape.

this truly is a case of 'sculpting'

the problem compounds itself because my gut is now chafing the rig, and when i go to do legpresses, my knees reach my chest and i can't breathe at all. yeah i am easily doing 8 plates and a ton of reps, but the incredible discomfort cuts me short.

i never really believed in meso to be honest with you, heck i don't believe in dnp either, but i had to experience that first hand. three times and one near death experience later, i ain't going back. but desperate times call for desperate measures.

while my key health issue (liver and kidneys) levels off, i would like to do something and honestly, i have been shot, stabbed and almost impaled, but yet the idea of a scalpel and a hoover kinda rubs me the wrong way. that and i have no idea of the cost/downtime. currently i can still work and this time of year it is sporratic but the pay is awesome, so i could be missing a 3-5k/day gig if the lipo for example makes me sit it out. i suck with money too, so as soon as i do a gig, its gone.

mak, thanks for the bump bro, i gotta hook you up one of these days :)

daym bro, you got a crazy ass life! maybe the cortisol levels are going up from stress, which would cause u to gain weight in the abdomen region. Just relax bro, live life and dont be stressed so much.
 
one meso patient said:
It burned really bad for a day or two and I only lost about an inch after three treatments
another meso patient said:
nah man u r right, that shit is worthless i pad almost a grand and had no results
lipo patient said:
Lipo totally works, but it is ver painful and depending on your problem it could take like two weeks to recover. I had to wear a special support gurdle thing and after they took it off I noticed I needed the tummy tuck. That is whats fucked up, the Lipo is like 2g's and the tummy tuck is like 4g's and if you dont get it, you have a flap of skin just hanging there. After my tuck I have a permanent scar that goes from hip to hip. Not very cool in a bathing suit. They also get you because the stomach and love handles they treat seperately and charge extra for. If you do the full package and do stomach, love handles, ass, chest and tummy tuck, you are going to spend close to 10g's!
krishna said:
Diet is your best bet bro. Nobody fuckin gets it!....
Actually, not in my case. Diet is dialed in. Kidneys and liver are not functioning properly. In my line of work, I have access to all sorts of trainers and nutritional experts that we use to keep the stars looking so built, so I do agree with you in most cases.
GymIntensity said:
daym bro, you got a crazy ass life!....
Actually I don't stress, everything that is going on is normal for me, well not the possible engagement and she should be under more stress than me. I'm 33, she is 22. She has not asked about my days on gear, and sort of knows a little, but she did notice when I take my special blue vitamins (those Denkall brand 'multivitamins' :chomp: ) I am a demon in the sack. "That is funny because they are blue like Viagra but they are so tiny"

FROM:
http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/showthread.php?p=6720701#post6720701
ME said:
dude, i fucking got you beat. last 30 days: 20 of which woken up vomitting up bile. liver getting fatty, slapping on weight with diet in check, coughing a lot for 3 months now as well. kidney fucked too. heart murmur developed. seeing 4 specialists to determine what this is. developed after last cycle.

in detox mode now.
 
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I don't know about the meso but after I lost about 75 pounds by diet I ended up going in for Lipo to get rid of the areas that I couldn't genetically get rid of myself. One of the best things I ever did. They took about 4 pounds of fat out of my lower back, obliques and abs and it looked liked another 20 pounds was gone.
 
taste-icles said:
upperbody workout? lol, I am a steadicam operator. one of the fastest on my feet too. I am used to running up and down stairs leaping over walls, and i am/was very active in parkour (google it!) as for diet, i worked with a nutritionist that helped the latest superman get in to shape.

this truly is a case of 'sculpting'

the problem compounds itself because my gut is now chafing the rig, and when i go to do legpresses, my knees reach my chest and i can't breathe at all. yeah i am easily doing 8 plates and a ton of reps, but the incredible discomfort cuts me short.

i never really believed in meso to be honest with you, heck i don't believe in dnp either, but i had to experience that first hand. three times and one near death experience later, i ain't going back. but desperate times call for desperate measures.

while my key health issue (liver and kidneys) levels off, i would like to do something and honestly, i have been shot, stabbed and almost impaled, but yet the idea of a scalpel and a hoover kinda rubs me the wrong way. that and i have no idea of the cost/downtime. currently i can still work and this time of year it is sporratic but the pay is awesome, so i could be missing a 3-5k/day gig if the lipo for example makes me sit it out. i suck with money too, so as soon as i do a gig, its gone.

mak, thanks for the bump bro, i gotta hook you up one of these days :)

No prob brotha! Hook it up dawg when you get yourself straightened out!

I can attest that diet is not Taste-icles prob. Otherwise I would have corrected it... :)
 
taste-icles said:
Actually, not in my case. Diet is dialed in. Kidneys and liver are not functioning properly. In my line of work, I have access to all sorts of trainers and nutritional experts that we use to keep the stars looking so built, so I do agree with you in most cases.
Actually I don't stress, everything that is going on is normal for me, well not the possible engagement and she should be under more stress than me. I'm 33, she is 22. She has not asked about my days on gear, and sort of knows a little, but she did notice when I take my special blue vitamins (those Denkall brand 'multivitamins' :chomp: ) I am a demon in the sack. "That is funny because they are blue like Viagra but they are so tiny"

FROM:
http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/showthread.php?p=6720701#post6720701

Start cleaning out your liver and kidneys then.
 
krishna said:
Start cleaning out your liver and kidneys then.
been doing that for the last month. seems to be working, even if it is a bit slow. my insomnia is not as bad right now, so that is a good thing.
 
I can't offer any advice on meso or lipo but I can tell you that detoxing to improve kidney and liver function will aid in your diet (clean foods) success.
 
taste-icles said:
been doing that for the last month. seems to be working, even if it is a bit slow. my insomnia is not as bad right now, so that is a good thing.

Give it time bro; sounds like it's already having a positive effect.
 
solidspine said:
I have used DNP twice and it was very, very effective at cutting weight quickly,

My Liposuction was also equally effective.
i meant to say i don't believe in using it anymore because the effects are so short lived, and well death was a real possibility for me the last time I did it.
 
krishna said:
Diet is your best bet bro. Nobody fuckin gets it! You can do practically anything with your diet; it's the best tool you got. I don't even have to do cardio, and I can shred up like no other with proper diet; same with bulking. Diet, diet, diet, diet, diet, diet, diet!

Right on. But cardio is key when someone is overweight and isnt blessed with an efficient metabolism.. Not lazy cardio either, but intense cardio. It's the best way to create a negative calorie deficit, along with diet to ensure calories are being burned. Research ppl. Mesotherapy is an inferior form of lipo. There are non-invasive procedures that are superior to it, you just have to do the homework.

Personally, in the last 6 months I completely changed my physique through diet and cardio alone. I'll take some pics soon to prove it. I've done nothing but the Cybex Arc for 60 minutes, 4-5x a week, on 100% resistance, and my diet consists of 125 grams of protein ONLY, along with an ECA and AIFM. Every sunday I have a cheat day where I eat w/e the fk I want. I've been "off" for 15 months now and I look like I'm "on". My vascularity is coming back, my muscularity is becoming nice and defined, and my fkn waist is almost a 33. Focusing on the right program and doing it is the hardest part. But for me, this is working like a charm.
 
velvett said:
:worried:

just protein?

basically, yes. 2 salads with raw bell peppers and cucumbers, no dressing also. I'm not saying I wont have wheat toast every now and then, but protein is the key. I've done this before and it works. I'm in perfect health and have no probs. Myself and carbs are not friendly at all.
 
Gymgurl said:
Okay I am a woman so take what you will......I had it twice and nothing...I can tell you one thing it was the most god awful hurtful experience I have ever had...I mean painful....and with no results ....I would never recommend it to anyone....my friend does it and other things for a living so I didn't even payfor it....never again lol


Gymgurl, it sounds like they forgot to mix the lidocaine in with the meso stuff..phospho I suppose, right? I know when I subjected myself to 25 of those shots the first time I did it, It felt like I had messed with the biggest, baddest bee's nest I could find. After Ifound out your supposed to mix lidocaine in with it, no pain at all!
 
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