i'm on week 9 i'm running it with 50mg ed of winny and have been for the 4wks. the previous 5 i ran it with 400mg of deca a wk. iv'e been eating super clean and have kept my water weight down to help insure quality gains and less of an effect of dropoff when the cycle is over. i'm at plus 13lbs right now. seems to be working well but i'm not sure how well in relation to other sus 250's. hope that helps.