Memory issues and a solution?

[Synpax]

One negative affect of the good cycle is that my memory seems to be inhibited a little - at least short term. It was never very good, and I am in a business where I am always meeting new people and have to remember their names - but I have come up with a great method for remembering their names.


Does anyone else have this problem?

 

[mookie]

Yeah, thought I had that problem on my 1st cycle but also could be the fact that I have been getting punched in the head for about 10 years.

 

[meatneck]

i can never remember people's names..it's just the way u are

 

[64Pilot]

when im on a high test cycle I always get forgetful. Like drive off with my weight belt still at the gym, leave home without my waller or cell phone

 

[x_muscle]

try supplementing smart drugs (norootopics) like piracteam. it realy helps.

 

[macrophage69alpha]

try supplementing smart drugs (norootopics) like piracteam. it realy helps.

Neurogenex

each cap contains (among other things ) 400mg 2oxo (aka piracetam)

 

[Ganryu]

I found this book to be very informative and beneficial. Good luck.

http://search.barnesandnoble.com/booksearch/isbnInquiry.asp?userid=5G8GfimAOZ&isbn=1569246297&itm=12

 

[Smokescreen]

Isn't testosterone supposed to increase memory? Or is the memory loss the cause of TOO much testosterone?

 

[Lumberg]

One negative affect of the good cycle is that my memory seems to be inhibited a little - at least short term. It was never very good, and I am in a business where I am always meeting new people and have to remember their names - but I have come up with a great method for remembering their names.


Does anyone else have this problem?

give neurogenex a try.

 

[Synpax]

Actually, my solution that doesn't involve drugs.

What I do is carry a set of Sharpie pens in my pocket - all different colors.

And what I do when I meet a new person and they tell me their name, I take out one of the sharpies, the color depending on the situation (red for work, blue for fitness, orange for personal), and I write their name on their forhead. This way I never forget their name - probably one of the ruddest things you can do to a person.

Fortunately, sharpies are pretty hard to wash off. I can see the new person days later and still make out my writing (though I may need to touch it up a bit). And usually by the time in has worn off their face, I have learned their name.

Anyway, feel free to try this drug-free solution to never forgetting someones name again.

 

[macrophage69alpha]

Actually, my solution that doesn't involve drugs.

What I do is carry a set of Sharpie pens in my pocket - all different colors.

And what I do when I meet a new person and they tell me their name, I take out one of the sharpies, the color depending on the situation (red for work, blue for fitness, orange for personal), and I write their name on their forhead. This way I never forget their name - probably one of the ruddest things you can do to a person.

Fortunately, sharpies are pretty hard to wash off. I can see the new person days later and still make out my writing (though I may need to touch it up a bit). And usually by the time in has worn off their face, I have learned their name.

Anyway, feel free to try this drug-free solution to never forgetting someones name again.

 

[crfpilot14]

aricept works. it is usually given to people with dementia to improve cognitive function but it also improves both short and long term memory in otherwise normal adults. i know as i take it and could see results after 1 wk. if you have the means then get some.

 

[macrophage69alpha]

aricept works. it is usually given to people with dementia to improve cognitive function but it also improves both short and long term memory in otherwise normal adults. i know as i take it and could see results after 1 wk. if you have the means then get some.

galantamine (one of the ingredients in neurogenex) is as effective as aricept (in some respect more), it is a mild selective ACHe-I and also upregulates nicotinic receptors.

 

[macrophage69alpha]

Symptomatic effect of donepezil, rivastigmine, galantamine and memantine on cognitive deficits in the APP23 model.

Van Dam D, Abramowski D, Staufenbiel M, De Deyn PP.

Laboratory of Neurochemistry and Behaviour, Born-Bunge Institute, Department of Biomedical Sciences, University of Antwerp, Universiteitsplein 1, 2610, Wilrijk, Belgium.

RATIONALE: APP23 mice are a promising model of Alzheimer's disease, expressing several histopathological, cognitive and behavioural hallmarks of the human condition. A valid animal model should respond to therapeutic interventions in an equivalent manner as human patients. OBJECTIVES: To further validate the APP23 model, we examined whether cognitive deficits could be antagonised by donepezil, rivastigmine, galantamine or memantine, which are approved drugs for symptomatic treatment of dementia. METHODS: Animals were tested at an age at which untreated APP23 mice display severe deficits in visual-spatial learning. Four-month-old APP23 mice and control littermates were administered donepezil (0.3 or 0.6 mg kg(-1)), rivastigmine (0.5 or 1.0 mg kg(-1)), galantamine (1.25 or 2.5 mg kg(-1)), memantine (2 or 10 mg kg(-1)) or saline through daily i.p. injections. After 1 week of treatment, acquisition phase commenced, with daily treatment continuing during cognitive testing. RESULTS: All cholinesterase inhibitors reduced cognitive deficits with the following optimal daily doses: galantamine 1.25 mg kg(-1), rivastigmine 0.5 mg kg(-1) and donepezil 0.3 mg kg(-1). Higher dosages often did not exert beneficial effects in accordance with inverted U-shaped dose-response curves described for cholinomimetics. Symptomatic efficacy of memantine on cognition was mild, with significant amelioration manifesting during probe trial. CONCLUSIONS: This is the first study to simultaneously evaluate the efficacy of therapeutically relevant doses of these four compounds in one particular learning and memory paradigm, being the Morris water maze. The fact that symptomatic intervention was able to diminish cognitive impairment, substantially adds to the validity of the APP23 model as a valuable tool to evaluate future therapeutic approaches.

 

[macrophage69alpha]

Prog Neuropsychopharmacol Biol Psychiatry. 2005 Jan;29(1):61-7. Epub 2004 Dec 08. Related Articles, Links


Central acetylcholinesterase inhibitors in the treatment of chronic traumatic brain injury-clinical experience in 111 patients.

Tenovuo O.

Department of Neurology, University of Turku, Kiinamyllynkatu 4-8, 20520 Turku, Finland.

PURPOSE: Theoretically, central acetylcholinesterase inhibitors (CAIs) could alleviate at least some of the main symptoms of chronic traumatic brain injury (TBI). The aim of this report is to describe clinical experience of the treatment of chronic TBI with these drugs. GENERAL METHODS: From an outpatient clinic material, 111 patients were selected having chronic stable TBI with at least one of the following target symptoms: fatigue, poor memory, diminished attention or diminished initiation. Patients received in random donepezil, galantamine or rivastigmine. The evaluation of the treatment response was based on the subjective view of the patient. FINDINGS: As first treatment, 27 patients received donepezil, 30 galantamine and 54 rivastigmine. Altogether 41 patients tried more than one drug, but only three patients tried all three alternatives. In total, 61% of patients had a marked positive response and 39% a modest or no response. The clearest effect was in almost all responders a better vigilance and attention causing better general function. About half of the patients (55%) wanted to continue therapy with one of these drugs. The therapeutic response became very quickly and at low doses. There were no significant differences between the three drugs either in effect or tolerability. The age, sex, type of injury, severity of TBI or elapsed time after injury did not affect the response. The mean dose in maintenance therapy was 7.2 mg od for donepezil, 5.0 mg bid for galantamine and 2.3 mg bid for rivastigmine. Side effects or inadequate therapeutic response were the main causes for discontinuation with nearly equal frequency. Paradoxical responses were seen in some patients. CONCLUSIONS: CAIs show a very promising therapeutic potential in the treatment of chronic TBI. There were no significant differences between the three drugs. Large-scale randomised double-blinded placebo-controlled studies are clearly needed.

 

[black_stripe1658]

I had memory problems and neurogenex really helped I am a believer.

 

[macrophage69alpha]

I had memory problems and neurogenex really helped I am a believer.

some of the best words that one can hear

 

[TraxZBT]

it truly is scary with nootropics in general. The way you remember things is not how you usually remember them. When you recall memories on nootropics, you recall them in explicit detail. Lets say your looking for your wallet, normally a person would remember and say its in my coat jacket. On nootropics however, you recall the vivid image of you putting it in your jacket and hanging your jacket up at the precise day and time. It really is amazing just how much you can push your memory and recall with certain substances.

 

[crfpilot14]

i read those studies on ovid a while back macro. good stuff. reminyl works well but i have little experience with it. i mostly prescribe aricept and namenda. we add namenda to the ACHe-I when the cognition worsens as i am sure you know. wonder how namenda would work in an otherwise normal person?
i started using aricept in medical school when the amount of stuff i had to cram into my head became more than i could handle. i could actually photograph pages of my notes into my head and when i needed to i could scroll down the mental image of the page in my head and find the answers i needed. i could do this with hundreds of pages of notes. i am not exaggerating. i am sure that the ACHe-I's will become a staple of many college/grad students if it hasnt already.

 

[Synpax]

hmm. See, I started this as a joke thread. Read it carefully. The initial post was a bait, then the punchline. But it seems there is some real valuable information here and I will now look into neurogenex - and it is possible that others have been helped as well.

 

[TheAssholeFomerlyKnownAsDBBT]

One negative affect of the good cycle is that my memory seems to be inhibited a little - at least short term. It was never very good, and I am in a business where I am always meeting new people and have to remember their names - but I have come up with a great method for remembering their names.


Does anyone else have this problem?

My gf is always saying dont' you remember the other day when you said this and that..etc. This is while Im on..so yea i think it is a side

 

[x_muscle]

ok since i start juicing i think i devolped ADD, i dont know if is true, but most people who juice develope ADD like symtomes.some research that indicates that neurologically people suffering from ADHD have a small part of their brain that is 2% smaller and does not get ample oxygen, and therfor cannot produce enough alpha waves. This causes the concentration problems.

now i dont know if AAS can cause that.

 

[Smokescreen]

Once again...isn't testosterone supposed to increase your memory? So why would us BB's have a memeory problem??

 

[macrophage69alpha]

Once again...isn't testosterone supposed to increase your memory? So why would us BB's have a memeory problem??

most people dont just use test. most steroids have neuromodulatory effects. at supraphysiological doses, plus with various increases in metabolites- also neuromodulatory= there certainly can be issues.

 

[bdog527]

hmm. See, I started this as a joke thread. Read it carefully. The initial post was a bait, then the punchline.

should probably keep your day job.

 

[Smokescreen]

most people dont just use test. most steroids have neuromodulatory effects. at supraphysiological doses, plus with various increases in metabolites- also neuromodulatory= there certainly can be issues.

What kind of issues?

 

[macrophage69alpha]

What kind of issues?

will vary considerably based on AS, individual neurochemistry, etc.

though in the vein of this thread memory, particularly short term, is most likely to see negative impact.

 

[JackRabbitSlim]

One negative affect of the good cycle is that my memory seems to be inhibited a little - at least short term. It was never very good, and I am in a business where I am always meeting new people and have to remember their names - but I have come up with a great method for remembering their names.


Does anyone else have this problem?

Ginko boloba

 

[macrophage69alpha]

gingko is very limited

 

[black_stripe1658]

some of the best words that one can hear

I am studying for tests at work and it is helping now for work. I can tell a difference my memory is better I can remember more and so I can learn faster. Thanks bros

 

[The_Chemist]

Can neurogenix be shipped to canada?

 

[macrophage69alpha]

Can neurogenix be shipped to canada?

it is available in canada, though it cant be shipped from the US to canada.

http://www.organic-health.com/Merch...P&Product_Code=856240000085&Category_Code=BNU

 

[The_Chemist]

it is available in canada, though it cant be shipped from the US to canada.

http://www.organic-health.com/Merch...P&Product_Code=856240000085&Category_Code=BNU

Thanks........will give it a try around mid-terms.

 

[macrophage69alpha]

^

 

[marqui77]

My memory also becomes worse while on, due to the fact that I get easily over stimulated. Even at 500 mgs of test, I can't concentrate on anything but sex.

 

[SlimJim300]

Nootropics really work. I've used a stack of 800-1600mg Piracetam, 10mg Vinpocetine, 50-250mg Centrophenoxine, and 500+mg Acetyl-L-Carnitine. All were taken together three times a day. I experience a better ability to remember peoples names, but what I like even more is that I will occasionally get wave after wave of ideas. It's almost like I have two brains working together with previous experience in the subject at hand, when I am actually working through new ideas and experiences.

On one or two occasions I took the above stack and threw in 25mg ephedrine and 200mg caffeine. It was quite euphoric, and I don't think I will do that again. I don't like artificially induced euphoria.

I would like to reduce the amount of Centrophenoxine I take and throw in a quality source of choline, but I'm too cheap to buy more ingredients for my stack =) You might want to consider Neurogenex.

 

[macrophage69alpha]