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Masteron vs Proviron vs Prostate

burnthiscorpse

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Never used either. Always wanted to. The thing is even 300mg and up of any test gives me what appears to be some BPH. Its controlable with a heavy saw palmetto regiment though. The only thing I get is more frequent pissing and feeling like I have to go every 15 minutes. When I do go I dont start and stop or have trouble starting but sometimes theres dribble at the end of a mostly normal albeit short duration piss. I can usually count on getting up once at night to piss while on a raised test dose. But its a full on piss when i do go.

I have heard Mast and proviron are hell on the prostate. Anyone have any input/experience here?
 
iSteroids said:
before we talk proviron or anything else, when was the last time you got a prostate exam?

Proviron-Mesterolone - iSteroids.com
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I think he wants to go deep?

I have run provi and mast.
I always prefer mast! Hands down.
I have run mast prop combo for close to a year once.
Yeah there are issues w peeing more freequently at night.
What do you want to know specifically?
 
goin on 4T said:
I think he wants to go deep?

I have run provi and mast.
I always prefer mast! Hands down.
I have run mast prop combo for close to a year once.
Yeah there are issues w peeing more freequently at night.
What do you want to know specifically?
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I'm getting bloods in a couple weeks. Having a PSA thrown in too and a freee and total T done to see where this 150mg cyp is keeping my levels at. I'm thinking they might be a little over high normal on 150 and maybe has been creeping up some BPH again. I dont get up at night to piss. Sometimes around 6am but usually its not bad. Back in march and april before some injuries crept up on me I was doing 375mg wk cyp and after a few weeks I started pissing non stop. Never any issues starting or stopping or hurting or anything. Sometimes there was alot less piss than I expected. but usially a normal piss just all the damn time. I got heavy on saw palmetto and after two weeks it helped ALOT. Stopped 375 and dropped to 125 and all was fine.
I'm still deciding on my upcoming cutter pending my bloods results. Probably leaving the test at 150mg wk and adding Var for sure if the LDL is all good. Then wanted to go NPP but my pharmacy has not been carrying it due to lack of popularity(might change but not sure). So I was back to trying Masteron again. Was thinking of 100mg EOD or 200mg M/W/F.

With this current need to piss more I cut off most water intake for like a week to see what happened and I still have to piss more than I think I should. I piss before a football game even with no water and then I have to piss again at halftime WTF. With almost no fluids. BUT....its a full on 20 second piss. Im wondering if my diet is causing me to shed the water??? Totally clean except cheat day. No spices no nothing really. ???

I dont want to aggravate the fuck out of my prostate if I can help it with masteron. maybe they are on drugs but alot of people have wrote that proviron gives them issues while masteron seemed not to.

I would absolutely go with 400mg primo for 12 weeks but I dont want to inject any more ethyl oleate to run the 300mg/ml primo and you all have said over and over that 100mg/ml regular primo is like motor oil and hurts like a bastard.
 
Blood sugar? Have you had a fasting test?
I don't like provi and I have a bunch. Just don't knwo what to do with it.
I have primo at 100mg/ml and it isn't that thick and it doesn't hurt at all.
I love taking masteron and am about to start some of that too. I just have to drop 10lbs first.
 
goin on 4T said:
Blood sugar? Have you had a fasting test?
I don't like provi and I have a bunch. Just don't knwo what to do with it.
I have primo at 100mg/ml and it isn't that thick and it doesn't hurt at all.
I love taking masteron and am about to start some of that too. I just have to drop 10lbs first.
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Always fast for blood work. I check blood sugar frequently because I have been on ipam for 4months . its all good just do a random check now and then.
 
I would guess its the ipam.
What is your BF right now?
I pee alot but I drink a shitload of water 3 times last night.
 
goin on 4T said:
I would guess its the ipam.
What is your BF right now?
I pee alot but I drink a shitload of water 3 times last night.
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The Ipam enlarging my prostate or just pulling water off me with my diet as it is?

my BF? I really cant say. Check my profile pic. That was two weeks ago and I was a little bloated. Other than the little fat on the lower abdomen and some side pec i would absolutely say around 14% Im a little leaner than the pic now.
Back is lean, bi's have siddenly gotten big veins running down them, legs have seperation delts traps, inner pecs are all very lean.
My abs arent flexed in the pic.
 
Burnthiscorpse said:
The Ipam enlarging my prostate or just pulling water off me with my diet as it is?

my BF? I really cant say. Check my profile pic. That was two weeks ago and I was a little bloated. Other than the little fat on the lower abdomen and some side pec i would absolutely say around 14% Im a little leaner than the pic now.
Back is lean, bi's have siddenly gotten big veins running down them, legs have seperation delts traps, inner pecs are all very lean.
My abs arent flexed in the pic.
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I would say the ipam is pulling the water out of you.
fuck we could be twins
 
Don't know how old you are but I am 55 and prostate is always am issue with Mast. Now I love Mast but I can only only run higher doses (700wk) for 4 weeks or the weak tinkling sets in. As soon as I drop it to 350 or below I am good. If you are just using Mast for AI like effects you can run it as low as 150/wk (3X50) MWF. Good luck and piss well!
 
Kbordner said:
Don't know how old you are but I am 55 and prostate is always am issue with Mast. Now I love Mast but I can only only run higher doses (700wk) for 4 weeks or the weak tinkling sets in. As soon as I drop it to 350 or below I am good. If you are just using Mast for AI like effects you can run it as low as 150/wk (3X50) MWF. Good luck and piss well!
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I'm 36. Running it for hardness and all the things it adds to a cutting cycle. Never ran it before though. The fact that it mediates some estro is fine. But I dont run an AI ever. Never needed to. I tried 12.5mg aromasin E3D with 375mg cyp this year and it made me feel like shit. If I were going 600mg long ester test wk then i'd throw the A.I. back int there. Test will be left at 150mg wk for this cutter but if i decide to up it it will only be to 250. I'd really like to see what the Var/Mast or Var/NPP do on their own.
 
goin on 4T said:
Blood sugar? Have you had a fasting test?
I don't like provi and I have a bunch. Just don't knwo what to do with it.
I have primo at 100mg/ml and it isn't that thick and it doesn't hurt at all.
I love taking masteron and am about to start some of that too. I just have to drop 10lbs first.
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And i cant find provi here for my var cycle. Going to have to run it without.


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Dont fear the Primo. Ive done HG Primo 100mg/ml and UG lab Primo 100mg/ml, neither hurt nor gave me issues pinning 200mg each time with Mast.

Now I know the culprit, while on 400mg Primo and 400mg Mast E, was pissing like mad all the time....
 
Power36 said:
Dont fear the Primo. Ive done HG Primo 100mg/ml and UG lab Primo 100mg/ml, neither hurt nor gave me issues pinning 200mg each time with Mast.

Now I know the culprit, while on 400mg Primo and 400mg Mast E, was pissing like mad all the time....
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LOl, yes...they are both DHT derivitaves.

After some further thought I'm just going to forget the primo. I would want to run 500-600mg wk and That would just be ridiculously expensive.

Its gonna either be Var and NPP or Var and Mast P.
 
Run NPP and Mast w low Test then finish it up with var.
Thats what I would do.
I don't get what people like about primo? I prefer mast.
 
goin on 4T said:
Run NPP and Mast w low Test then finish it up with var.
Thats what I would do.
I don't get what people like about primo? I prefer mast.
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Interesting. I'm looking at an 8 weeker. Maybe I could do 10. Eod pinning is going to get old quick though. Good idea though 100mast/100npp eod with 150mg test wk. Along with var. If I can't get npp I'm pretty sold on mast/var though. Already have var. Enough for 60mg ed for 8 weeks.
 
Sounds like what I want to do next. I am not really experienced so my opinion doesnt hold much weight...but I love Primo....it is way too expensive though....but because of how people say it has low sides, slow and steady gains you keep, I wanted to stick to something safe.

I think NPP, Mast, Test Prop is my next run....and either Var or tbol. Var is damn expensive too though! All the things I want to run are the pricey ones haah

So you are going to do just 150mg Test a week, Enan or Cyp? Whats the reason for keeping the Test so low?
 
Power36 said:
Sounds like what I want to do next. I am not really experienced so my opinion doesnt hold much weight...but I love Primo....it is way too expensive though....but because of how people say it has low sides, slow and steady gains you keep, I wanted to stick to something safe.

I think NPP, Mast, Test Prop is my next run....and either Var or tbol. Var is damn expensive too though! All the things I want to run are the pricey ones haah

So you are going to do just 150mg Test a week, Enan or Cyp? Whats the reason for keeping the Test so low?
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I have read from some reputable people that when running 600mg or so of primo for 12-14 weeks that the primo really changed their physique and gave a certain look apart from other AAS.
But yeah, the price of primo at 500-600mg wk is obscene in relation to how much other good aas you can run. Var, prop, mast, npp, ect.

The test is cyp. Been cruising for about 5 mos. (wasnt planned, long story). I want to keep it low because I dont want deal with BPH symptoms I get after a few weeks over 300mg. Plus if the Mast causes symptoms I wanna know its not the test. But I also dont feel like adding prop to total 3ml EOD. Fuck that. 2ml is max for me in any location anyways. So I'll just keep the trt dose there so it lets me really see what the other compounds do on their own. Plus trying to cut I dont need any water retention from a long ester test and I dont want to run an AI.
 
You might have heard of Super Beta Prostate that is basically a pretty well-rounded supplement for prostate health. Might be worth considering too.
 
johnelli said:
You might have heard of Super Beta Prostate that is basically a pretty well-rounded supplement for prostate health. Might be worth considering too.
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Never. I will look into it though.



For anyone else who mentioned getting a PSA done, I did.

The range is 0-4.0. My results were 0.4 so basically zilch. Which is awsome.
 
I could be mistaken but I thought I remember reading somewhere that DHT shouldn't mess with the prostate unless estrogen is too high.
 
JTJT123 said:
I could be mistaken but I thought I remember reading somewhere that DHT shouldn't mess with the prostate unless estrogen is too high.
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Masteron will actually lower estrogen. Yet is known to be a bitch with the prostate in those sensitive to prostate issues because it is a dht. Same with proviron.
 
Burnthiscorpse said:
Masteron will actually lower estrogen. Yet is known to be a bitch with the prostate in those sensitive to prostate issues because it is a dht. Same with proviron.
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Definitely, but my point is could the BPH be due to too high an estrogen level from the Testosterone you use combined with the inherently high DHT from the masteron or proviron. Maybe lowering the Test or adding in an AI would help. Just a thought.
 
JTJT123 said:
Definitely, but my point is could the BPH be due to too high an estrogen level from the Testosterone you use combined with the inherently high DHT from the masteron or proviron. Maybe lowering the Test or adding in an AI would help. Just a thought.
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I have also read that it's the elevated estrogen that causes the biggest impact on the prostrate ... I have no science to back me up though
 
JTJT123 said:
Definitely, but my point is could the BPH be due to too high an estrogen level from the Testosterone you use combined with the inherently high DHT from the masteron or proviron. Maybe lowering the Test or adding in an AI would help. Just a thought.
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I have never used proviron or masteron. Yes its obviously from the excess estrogen. But ta a fine line because on low dose test like 300-375 or a long ester or 100mg eod of prop I don't bloat. So visually no A.I. is needed. But if I take one anyways I feel like shit. Maybe just 12.5 mg of aromasin once a week, I dunno.
 
Burnthiscorpse said:
I have never used proviron or masteron. Yes its obviously from the excess estrogen. But ta a fine line because on low dose test like 300-375 or a long ester or 100mg eod of prop I don't bloat. So visually no A.I. is needed. But if I take one anyways I feel like shit. Maybe just 12.5 mg of aromasin once a week, I dunno.
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I hear ya. I guess the only way to be certain of anything is with blood work. As to the AI's making you feel like shit that seems common. It seems like you have to play mad scientist to find the right one and then optimize the dosage. It's one of the reasons I'll probably never use more than a TRT dose of Test and then rely on high doses of anabolics to pick up the slack.
 
It's E2, not T, that's the problem with the prostate. Mainstream medicine ignores estradiol levels. I'm on TRT 75mg E3D and I have to take 1/4 pill arimidex to keep E2 level good or I have all your symtoms. There is research on this I could pm if u want. Can't post links yet...


Circulating estradiol, but not testosterone, is a significant predictor of
high-grade prostate cancer in patients undergoing radical prostatectomy
 
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