massive monsters cutting diet - spring 2006

[MASSIVEMONSTER]

ok guys i am going to get so shredded for the summer its going to be scary!
i am currently at 11.65% body fat, going to get down to 6% for the summer at 210lb, 5`8... (compete at 203lb)

my diet i have outlined is as follows: (any ideas to manipulate it appreciated!)

8am - 40g oats with 200ml semi skimmed milk
60g whey in water
an apple

11am - 60g whey in water
20ml flaxseed oils poured over a salad

2.30pm - 200g chicken
50g rice

6pm - (post training) 50g glucose
60g whey
banana

10.30pm - 6 eggs (2 yolks)
orange

2400 claories.. Every 6th day i will eat anything (carb up)
i will add CV at 30min, 3 times a week for health purposes, but i have got shredded before with hardly any CV.

 

[Mr.X]

my diet i have outlined is as follows: (any ideas to manipulate it appreciated!)

8am - 40g oats with 200ml semi skimmed milk
60g whey in water
an apple
drop apple, drop milk, mix whey into the oats, add 1tbsp. ANPB
I prefer you use Egg white protein instead of whey


11am - 60g whey in water
20ml flaxseed oils poured over a salad
replace whey with 6oz. chicken breast - no skin

2.30pm - 200g chicken
50g rice
add large green salad with 1tbsp. olive oil

6pm - (post training) 50g glucose
60g whey
banana
add 10-15gr glutamine and 1tbsp. honey

10.30pm - 6 eggs (2 yolks)
add large green salad with 1tbsp. olive oil
add 2 tbspl fiber (not into the salad)

 

[Lifterforlife]

Don't think at currently 12% bf(approx.) at 210 you are going to compete at 203.

 

[Mr.X]

Don't think at currently 12% bf(approx.) at 210 you are going to compete at 203.

I fathom he's going to attempt to gain muscle mass, somehow.

 

[Lifterforlife]

I fathom he's going to attempt to gain muscle mass, somehow.

May be true, but interesting to say the least. The way the post is worded, kind of tough to interpret. He says he is going to "get down to" 210 lbs., don't know what he is at now.

So, I guess we have to assume he is currently heavier than 210 lbs., and taking in 2400 calories as proposed by his diet he posted, don't see much muscle mass being gained.

Am I interpeting the post wrong?

 

[Mr.X]

Am I interpeting the post wrong?

let's see what he says...I'd like to know myself.

 

[vagabond26]

Mr. X I would like to know why you prefer egg white protein over whey?

 

[racoon_city]

Mr. X I would like to know why you prefer egg white protein over whey?

eggs are food protien powder is just a supplemnt

 

[vagabond26]

got it!

 

[MASSIVEMONSTER]

i am currently 221lb guys so competing at 203 is on the cards and i am currently eating 4500 claories a day until about May when i will diet down and consider competing in september time.
The diet i outlined above is for dieting purposes, not mass gaining!!

 

[Mr.X]

i am currently 221lb guys so competing at 203 is on the cards and i am currently eating 4500 claories a day until about May when i will diet down and consider competing in september time.
The diet i outlined above is for dieting purposes, not mass gaining!!

makes sense to me....at almost 5000cal/day you should be able to gain some good mass.

 

[Lifterforlife]

i am currently 221lb guys so competing at 203 is on the cards and i am currently eating 4500 claories a day until about May when i will diet down and consider competing in september time.
The diet i outlined above is for dieting purposes, not mass gaining!!

That post is much more clarified. Thank you. I agree, 4500 calories should be sufficient for mass gain. Approximately 20 cal. per lb. should do nicely.

I apologize for my initial misreading of your post.

 

[chesty]

I know in the past when I competed I would start out at 217 or so and end up at 185 or so (but that was when I was all natural) Amazing I would lose that much. Would take 12 weeks and then it would come back in like 4!

That diet sounds good and close to what I have done. But how to mix it up for a 12 week cutting cycle? That can get pretty bland and hard to swallow after a month.

Also, could you use say 1-2 tablespoons of Italian dressing made with olive oil or flax seed oil?

I usually mix in a tablespoon of flaxseed into my protein shakes and try to get half of my protein from real food and the other half from supplements.

Has the philosphy on protein per lbf of body weight changed lately? I used to go to 2 grams per pound when cutting and keep my calories at around 2000-2500 and carbs to under 100gms (not an easy thing to do)