Mass cycle

[TonyP9]

Hey guys I am new to the cycles and looking for some help/opinions. I want to mass until next march and then I will cut. I just want some opinions on what would be the best stuff to use for a massing cycle and how the cycle should be. I want to mass and gain strength.
I was thinking about test and dbol. Not sure on the rest though.

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[kc17]

Is this your 1st cycle ,How old are you ?

 

[25homes]

Need stats

 

[RADAR]

Age, Weight, BF height are all required here.

 

[TonyP9]

Oh whoops, 22, 22% bf( I am not really sure on the bf, just a guess) I have a shorter stocky build, 242 lb, 5'8 1/2(68.5 in)... Yes its my first cycle, I already lose weight quick when I focus of it and build mass fast too, but I am not too worried about weight right now... Maybe towards the end ill work on some weight loss

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[ALIN]

Oh whoops, 22, 22% bf( I am not really sure on the bf, just a guess) I have a shorter stocky build, 242 lb, 5'8 1/2(68.5 in)... Yes its my first cycle, I already lose weight quick when I focus of it and build mass fast too, but I am not too worried about weight right now... Maybe towards the end ill work on some weight loss

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At 22 I would check your natural hormone levels and see where your at before you jump on anything.

 

[kc17]

Oh whoops, 22, 22% bf( I am not really sure on the bf, just a guess) I have a shorter stocky build, 242 lb, 5'8 1/2(68.5 in)... Yes its my first cycle, I already lose weight quick when I focus of it and build mass fast too, but I am not too worried about weight right now... Maybe towards the end ill work on some weight loss

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Your bf s really high bro , clean up your diet and at 22yrs your natty test should be sky high so I don't see the point on jumping on juice so young.....

 

[dylangemelli]

agree with kc... you are much too young and your body fat is just way too high to be running any sort of cycle, especially bulking cycles... you need to get your body fat down quite a bit and you should wait until your older man... its such a mistake to start taking aas and such a very young age... be smart...

 

[TonyP9]

I don't actually know my real bf, but okay. I understand. When I played soccer and was very lean I weighed 196. I was at 8% at the time... I just figured it'd be 22%+ because I am at 242 lbs...

I cleaned up my diet a lot, but I am not trying to lose weight quick. More so just going for mass.. I have already put on 2 inches to my biceps in a little over 2 months and have increased my strength by a lot too
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[dylangemelli]

regardless of what you want to accomplish, your body fat is too high to run a cycle... you are putting yourself at a much higher risk for side effects... higher chance of estrogen conversion... higher risk of liver and blood pressure issues... etc... you need to get your body fat down before you even consider running any sort of cycle...

 

[TonyP9]

Yeah. I understand... I am going to start doing more cardio in the gym and while at home to drop wait quicker.. so what bf % should I be around before I even thought about starting? And when I get to the point and if I started, what is a very good massing cycle?

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[dylangemelli]

you need to get down to at least 15% before you run any sort of cycle... once you get to that point then you can consider running something... you should wait until you get to that point because your goals may change... once you get there, decide your goals and then come back and we will get you on the right track...