many people recommend test for a first cycle....

[kentucky]

So are you recommending a particular type of test, or are you recommending sust ?

 

[Juice Authority]

Single acting ester like Enan or Cyp would be a better option than Sust for a first cycle.

 

[Texas Ranger]

Yup! Test Enanthate or Cyp would be GREAT for a First Cycle.

 

[RADAR]

I agree and just for giggles if you want a jump start until the test kicks in run some dbol for the first 4-5 weeks.

RADAR

 

[genarr4]

Test is test. It really doesn't matter what kind.

 

[Juice Authority]

Test is test. It really doesn't matter what kind. [/QUOTE

I agree and disagree. How can you compare Sust (4 blend) with a single acting ester? There's also a big difference between test Enan and Test Prop. There's little difference however between Test Enan and Cyp - structurally. I think Enan has one more carbon atom than Cyp or maybe it's the other way around - I forget.

 

[Dr. M]

JA -

enanthate has a linear, 7-carbon chain; cypionate has a 7-carbon chain which has a 5-membered ring on the distal end.

Think of it this way in terms of structure - enanthate is like a pencil, and cypionate is like breaking the pencil in half and stabbing it into a tennis ball.

Bad analogy, but I guess you guys probably get the idea...

-M

 

[Juice Authority]

JA -

enanthate has a linear, 7-carbon chain; cypionate has a 7-carbon chain which has a 5-membered ring on the distal end.

Think of it this way in terms of structure - enanthate is like a pencil, and cypionate is like breaking the pencil in half and stabbing it into a tennis ball.

Bad analogy, but I guess you guys probably get the idea...

-M

Not to get technical but this is incorrect. Enan is 7 instead of 8 carbons in length so its safe to state that 500 mg of enan contains more testosterone than does 500 mg of cyp.

 

[VIOLENT J]

That is right about the enanthate having more free testosterone than cypionate, because of the weight of the ester. The difference in the amount of test is small, probably within 10 mgs of eachother. My question is, if this is true, then why does enanthate not sell for more than cypionate?

 

[Lift Chief]

No one could ever tell the difference between cyp and enth. They are technically different, but it doesn't actually make a difference in practice.