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Guy at work with whom I am friendly. who is a competitive powerlifter, is a big dude at 6'3" 330lbs. We got some mutual bb'ing friends. He comes over to my cube today and looks around both ways like he is up to something and asks if I am juicing. I have had a few people ask before but he totally caught me off guard. I denied it of course.

I must be doing a little too well on my current cycle (only 5 weeks in) and it must be obvious. It secretly made me feel good and bad all at the same time. My wife asked me about a week ago if I was bulking up again (she doesnt know I am using).

When I see him next I am going to say that what he asked me really bothered me (in my most concerned and sincerest voice) and ask what made him think that.
 
Even if he is on I wouldn't tell him anyway. I have only told one person ever and I only told him because I was drunk at a club and for some reason I felt like I needed to tell someone (it was during my first cycle). I definitely regret having told him. Not that I think he's gonna tell anyone (he won't) but no one needs to know, ya know.
 
i have had that same thing happen to me
it made me alil mad and happy at the same time
i had someone who i know causally ask me the same thing
i would just take it as a compliment that you look good
i dont think i would bring it back up to him cause his mind is probably made up already anyway
bro people see what you look like and make there minds up instanly regardles of the truth
i was acussed by all my friends and even my family of using anabolics long before i used and to be honest it was annoying to argue with people who already think they know,it was also one of my reasons for using besides kicking things up a notch
i was like if im being acussed of something i aint doing might as well have a reason to be accused
sounds like your cyclei s working out well and that should make you happy
what is your currecnt cycle
 
Why do you not want anyone to know?

Legal reasons?
Moral?
Maybe they will think you are a "cheater"?

I'm just curious, I haven't done a cycle yet, but I'm not sure that will let anyone know besides my wife (which will be giving me the injections) and my workout partner ( he will be doing gear too).

Whats everyones reason?
 
A little of everything. Most people have no idea what they are talking about when it comes to steroids. So being a "juice head" has all kinds of connotations. Also if it is at work like in 8and20's case I wouldn't tell anyone because that's not something you want going around the office. It's one thing if he thinks he knows, it's another if he told him.
 
The only truth of the matter is that what you do as an adult is - YOUR OWN damn business, and as long as You're not infringing on anyone elses well being...it really is none of their business...it's kinda like a helmet law...if i wanna crack my head open on a light pole...that should be my business and my choice...\Besides,

I kinda of think of not "announcing" to the world or anyone else what I'm doing, is REALLY protecting them from themselves...all it's going to do is muster up their uninformed...prejudgmental selves to make a call or judgement about something they know absolutely nothing about, and form a negative opinion (mostly - undeserved) about - responsibly utilizing adults...making a decision that = they will disagree with...and what is that going to do, form bad attitudes/judgemental, and drive a wedge where on does not need to exsist...8and20 ... you've got the only correct view you could have on this one.
 
Its funny how people think others dont know they are juicing. Saying no does not mean he believes you. I know lots of people who juice and lie that they are natural. Why they do this heaven knows. I could only think they are ashamed. Why else would you lie to your partner?
 
trizo said:
Do you think he is on gear also?
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I have always suspected he is/was. He has 500lb lifts in the big three with no equipment and he is in his mid forties. That in itself means nothing. He also seems to know a fair amount about aas. But he is also entering a natural powerlifting meet and if he places or wins he might get tested.

He has admited using clen/T3 for weight loss and once said when he was on travel down in South America (years ago) he thought very hard about trying to pick some up but was worried about how he would get it back home.

I haven't had an opportunity to ask him why he asked me if I was using yet today. I have been swamped at work but hopefully before I leave I will get that answer.
 
mus1cjunk1e said:
Even if he is on I wouldn't tell him anyway. I have only told one person ever and I only told him because I was drunk at a club and for some reason I felt like I needed to tell someone (it was during my first cycle). I definitely regret having told him. Not that I think he's gonna tell anyone (he won't) but no one needs to know, ya know.
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I have no intention of ever telling anyone. My best friends dont know and neither does my wife. I plan on keeping it that way until circumstances are out of my control.
 
i think the guy was out of line bringing it up at work and i would tell him so. I would just say that i really didnt appreciate the question especially at work and if he wanted to talk to me about something like that to take it elsewhere. i would bet the guy is cool but i would be extremely cautious and get the skinny on what he is doing before i opened myself up. i always tell people at the gym, work, or where ever that i respond to creatine very well which i did when i first tried it. its really your call as to how you proceed....
 
tigawoods said:
Its funny how people think others dont know they are juicing. Saying no does not mean he believes you. I know lots of people who juice and lie that they are natural. Why they do this heaven knows. I could only think they are ashamed. Why else would you lie to your partner?
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this is not alweays true
i was in very good shape and defended myself everyday while people accused me of juicing and i wasnt
most people dont have the drive and comitment to get real good r4esults from weightlifting whitch kinda makes alot of people think that if you look like good you must be usijng something
i also thionm people are hesitant to be open about ther use because most people think juice is some magic pill and you dont have to work to get results whitch if you have used you know this is almost the complte oposite
you have to work harder diet better and really puish yourself
 
SpyWizard said:
hahha.. just say "no, I wish, just been taking cell tech and a multi"``
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unfortunately i was caught off guard and he isnt stupid. like i said he is about as knowledgeable about lifting and i thought he was going to tell me an off-color joke or something. i did say i was just on creatine and upped my cals/carbs to start gaining weight.
 
big clothes, bro ..big clothes!

..though I know it's hard to hide big thighs in slacks ..so for you it must be nearly impossible

I even wear big clothes to the gym ..nobody's biz but your own

tell'em he's outta line and crossing boundries ..or even ask him "what's it to you?" ..but like you said you have mutual friends so he might already know? ..maybe he's just tryin' to bond with you? ..either way tread carefully cuz even though he may understand others that find in the office most likely won't
 
THE GOOD SUN said:
big clothes, bro ..big clothes!

..though I know it's hard to hide big thighs in slacks ..so for you it must be nearly impossible

I even wear big clothes to the gym ..nobody's biz but your own

tell'em he's outta line and crossing boundries ..or even ask him "what's it to you?" ..but like you said you have mutual friends so he might already know? ..maybe he's just tryin' to bond with you? ..either way tread carefully cuz even though he may understand others that find in the office most likely won't
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no one knows outside EF people so it would be only speculation. i am already wearing 2XL. it gets kinda expensive for business casual to have 2 wardrobes...lol. I do have my big pants for when I bulk. It still doesnt hide the legs. It is mostly for my comfort for my waist :)
 
8and20 said:
no one knows outside EF people so it would be only speculation. i am already wearing 2XL. it gets kinda expensive for business casual to have 2 wardrobes...lol. I do have my big pants for when I bulk. It still doesnt hide the legs. It is mostly for my comfort for my waist :)
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this is so comical cuz I can soo relate to having 2 sets of clothes in the closet ..lol

biz casual (like you wear polo shirts etc.?) forget about it, you'll never be able to hide your shoulders/traps

...I guess you should just fess up LMAO!!! :FRlol: ..I'm J/K

you know what, wage some mental warefare on him ..pop over to his cube and say "you know I heard from Cindy Lou Who, over in cube 2, that you're a mega juice head, what's up with that??" ..and just try to hold a straight face

seriously, just set up boundries, be stand off-ish ..make'em afraid to ask ..or at least think twice ..but then again, it just this one guy so it will prob just blow over ..just stick to your "NO" answer ..cuz really what good can come of it?

good luck, Bro!
 
You did the right thing by denying it. Don't bring the subject up again yourself, because that just lets him know you've been thinking about it(which makes you look guilty). If he brings it up again just tell him about Dermacrine and how great it is. Get really enthusiastic about it and tell him how you can't believe the results you are getting. Enthusiasm is a great way to lie successfully.
 
tigawoods said:
Its funny how people think others dont know they are juicing. Saying no does not mean he believes you. I know lots of people who juice and lie that they are natural. Why they do this heaven knows. I could only think they are ashamed. Why else would you lie to your partner?
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There is... "what you think you know"...and then there is: "DID YOU SEE me pin myself...??" Anyone can "guess - all they want but if they didn't see me pull the trigger...it's only speculation....Pride has nothing to do with protecting others from their own ignorance, and there by - protecting yourself...It's not SHAME...It's INTELLEGENT to be discreet................
 
I worked as a waiter two summers ago and at a table I was waiting on a guy there asked if I was on steroids, lol. I was like, "no way, I just work hard and eat right."

I was on like 3g/wk of gear
 
i didnt get a chance to talk to him today after all. i will just 4get it ever happened. it would kinda make me look suspicious but i am still curious as to whether he thought it bc of my appearance change or if someone else noticed and asked him?

it is funny how we as bb's dont generally notice even obvious changes. it takes an outside observer or us comparing ourselves with pre & post photographs. i know i must be looking fairly huge now (up 22 lbs) compared to pre-cycle. I try to wait until the cycle is almost over before taking some more. for some reason that keeps me working harder, not knowing how well i am really doing.
 
8and20 said:
I have always suspected he is/was. He has 500lb lifts in the big three with no equipment and he is in his mid forties. That in itself means nothing. He also seems to know a fair amount about anabolic androgenic steroids. But he is also entering a natural powerlifting meet and if he places or wins he might get tested.

He has admited using Clenbuterol/T3 for weight loss and once said when he was on travel down in South America (years ago) he thought very hard about trying to pick some up but was worried about how he would get it back home.

I haven't had an opportunity to ask him why he asked me if I was using yet today. I have been swamped at work but hopefully before I leave I will get that answer.
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How do you know he knows alot about aas? if you know then you two or your group of friends talk about it. i am sure thats why he asked. And i am sure that you being a big mofo added to the curiousity a little. quite honestly we all know when we see someone at the gym or whatever we can pretty much guess if they use or not and be right 95% of the time. my 2cents
 
ALWAYS LAUGH AT PEOPLE WHO WANNA GET PERSONAL AND HAVE NO RIGHT TO. i would say thanks for the compliment but i just train i appreciate it thou THANKS U MADE MY DAY!!!!
 
8and20 said:
i didnt get a chance to talk to him today after all. i will just 4get it ever happened. it would kinda make me look suspicious but i am still curious as to whether he thought it bc of my appearance change or if someone else noticed and asked him?

it is funny how we as bb's dont generally notice even obvious changes. it takes an outside observer or us comparing ourselves with pre & post photographs. i know i must be looking fairly huge now (up 22 lbs) compared to pre-cycle. I try to wait until the cycle is almost over before taking some more. for some reason that keeps me working harder, not knowing how well i am really doing.
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Hey old buddy, with your Pro-bodybuilder look, it's going to be hard for people not to wonder. If I put on 8 or 10 pounds people ask me if I'm juicing. At my age I just say. "Ya right, a 50 year on steroids!" That's the end of it.
There is no need to explain, feel guilty
 
8and20 said:
i didnt get a chance to talk to him today after all. i will just 4get it ever happened. it would kinda make me look suspicious but i am still curious as to whether he thought it bc of my appearance change or if someone else noticed and asked him?

it is funny how we as bb's dont generally notice even obvious changes. it takes an outside observer or us comparing ourselves with pre & post photographs. i know i must be looking fairly huge now (up 22 lbs) compared to pre-cycle. I try to wait until the cycle is almost over before taking some more. for some reason that keeps me working harder, not knowing how well i am really doing.
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Hey old buddy, with your Pro-bodybuilder look, it's going to be hard for people not to wonder.
But you worked hard and should be pround of your accomplishments.
There is no need for you to explain, or feel guilty or anything else... Fuck'em!
 
THE GOOD SUN said:
this is so comical cuz I can soo relate to having 2 sets of clothes in the closet ..lol

biz casual (like you wear polo shirts etc.?) forget about it, you'll never be able to hide your shoulders/traps

...I guess you should just fess up LMAO!!! :FRlol: ..I'm J/K

you know what, wage some mental warefare on him ..pop over to his cube and say "you know I heard from Cindy Lou Who, over in cube 2, that you're a mega juice head, what's up with that??" ..and just try to hold a straight face

seriously, just set up boundries, be stand off-ish ..make'em afraid to ask ..or at least think twice ..but then again, it just this one guy so it will prob just blow over ..just stick to your "NO" answer ..cuz really what good can come of it?

good luck, Bro!
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Defensive is definitely not the way to go. It reeks of a guilty conscience lol.

I think he handled it pretty well "creatine defense"

I remember my training partner and I asked our friend once in the gym if he juiced and he looked like we just talked shit about his mother or something. Looked down and walked out. Eventually he told us he was on gear lol.
 
mus1cjunk1e said:
Even if he is on I wouldn't tell him anyway. I have only told one person ever and I only told him because I was drunk at a club and for some reason I felt like I needed to tell someone (it was during my first cycle). I definitely regret having told him. Not that I think he's gonna tell anyone (he won't) but no one needs to know, ya know.
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haha i relate that that man, i did the same thing. drunk at a club and told one of my best mates. regret it big time.

I didnt say i was using but said i had some and know how to get it. (in other words) hehe
 
hayz said:
haha i relate that that man, i did the same thing. drunk at a club and told one of my best mates. regret it big time.

I didnt say i was using but said i had some and know how to get it. (in other words) hehe
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Last year I lived next to this guy that I played rugby with back in the day. He ended up quiting for one reason or another. We talked a few times about gear and how it would've made a difference in our game/how we were tempted to try it. I saw him @ a party on Halloween. I told him I was juicing. Fawk. Next cycle I'm not going to drink at all. Even now I calmed it down to almost nil. Booze is counterproductive to gains :(
 
Get this.my new optomotrist who is 60 ask me in a round about way about aas.I actually told him all i know.his wife is a doc.basically i told him about HRT.Didnt go into anything about myself.
 
when people ask me if i'm juicin', i look suprised and say "no, but i guess i will take that as a compliment so thank you". :)
 
8and20 said:
Guy at work with whom I am friendly. who is a competitive powerlifter, is a big dude at 6'3" 330lbs. We got some mutual bb'ing friends. He comes over to my cube today and looks around both ways like he is up to something and asks if I am juicing. I have had a few people ask before but he totally caught me off guard. I denied it of course.

I must be doing a little too well on my current cycle (only 5 weeks in) and it must be obvious. It secretly made me feel good and bad all at the same time. My wife asked me about a week ago if I was bulking up again (she doesnt know I am using).

When I see him next I am going to say that what he asked me really bothered me (in my most concerned and sincerest voice) and ask what made him think that.
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next time someone ask if your juicing tell them " I am not a fan of juice and sodas I just drink alot of water"
That stumps um every time.
 
timber1976 said:
How do you know he knows alot about anabolic androgenic steroids? if you know then you two or your group of friends talk about it. i am sure thats why he asked. And i am sure that you being a big mofo added to the curiousity a little. quite honestly we all know when we see someone at the gym or whatever we can pretty much guess if they use or not and be right 95% of the time. my 2cents
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we dont talk about aas but he does that is how i know about his knowledge.
 
male envy perhaps? he prolly envied your combination of mass gain and bf control. :artist:
 
It happened again today! Totally different guy who doesnt even talk to the 1st one that brought it up. He asked me when I was going to stop losing weight. I told him I was done and then he asks what kind of "stuff" I was on (wink wink) cuz I was getting way too damn big. I was ready this time. I said, "First you say I am losing too much weight and now you say I am gaining weight. Which is it? When you lose weight it makes me look bigger because the waist gets smaller and so everything in comparison looks bigger but in actuallity all my measurements are the same." He changed the subject after that.
 
8and20 said:
i didnt get a chance to talk to him today after all. i will just 4get it ever happened. it would kinda make me look suspicious but i am still curious as to whether he thought it bc of my appearance change or if someone else noticed and asked him?

it is funny how we as bb's dont generally notice even obvious changes. it takes an outside observer or us comparing ourselves with pre & post photographs. i know i must be looking fairly huge now (up 22 lbs) compared to pre-cycle. I try to wait until the cycle is almost over before taking some more. for some reason that keeps me working harder, not knowing how well i am really doing.
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FORGET ABOUT IT! It's over, who cares what anyone thinks about you or what you're doing. It's nobody's business but yours.
 
bro just smile inside and dont admit anything
you must be making some nice gains
you know what i think is funny is that we never see ourselves actually getting bigger until the end probably because we see ourselves every day
sounds like too much talking in the gym man, hehe j/k, put those headphones in and kill that shiat
 
Cal_21 said:
Defensive is definitely not the way to go. It reeks of a guilty conscience lol.

I think he handled it pretty well "creatine defense"

I remember my training partner and I asked our friend once in the gym if he juiced and he looked like we just talked shit about his mother or something. Looked down and walked out. Eventually he told us he was on gear lol.
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I can see your point ..but I remember the old days ..just nobody would dream of asking you ..they were afraid you might blow a fuse and rip their heads off ..of course they all knew but either out of respect or fear they just dared not ask ..and I think that was largely due to the invisable boundries we set ..by just not being overly receptive ..to a certain degree anyway
 
u must be making some impressive changes, 8.

post up pics!
 
rnch said:
u must be making some impressive changes, 8.

post up pics!
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not till it is over. if i take them now and compare i will let up the intensity but i have no idea i think that i am not making good gains and i kill those weights and stay on top of eating right.
 
8and20 said:
not till it is over. if i take them now and compare i will let up the intensity but i have no idea i think that i am not making good gains and i kill those weights and stay on top of eating right.
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How much longer do you have left on this cycle your running?
 
ironcheif1984 said:
How much longer do you have left on this cycle your running?
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7 weeks. but i plan on waiting 4-6 weeks after that b4 i try to diet hard to lose any fat.
 
THE GOOD SUN said:
I can see your point ..but I remember the old days ..just nobody would dream of asking you ..they were afraid you might blow a fuse and rip their heads off ..of course they all knew but either out of respect or fear they just dared not ask ..and I think that was largely due to the invisable boundries we set ..by just not being overly receptive ..to a certain degree anyway
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Steroids are a really "hot" topic right now. Everyone gets a excited trying to figure out who is juicing and who isn't. I think that probably has a lot to do with why people are more upfront about it. Everyone wants to "know" someone who uses, if nothing else to gossip. Either way, 8and20 and everyone else here has the right idea, it's no one's business. :)
 
Cal_21 said:
Steroids are a really "hot" topic right now. Everyone gets a excited trying to figure out who is juicing and who isn't. I think that probably has a lot to do with why people are more upfront about it. Everyone wants to "know" someone who uses, if nothing else to gossip. Either way, 8and20 and everyone else here has the right idea, it's no one's business. :)
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even the most obvious juicers, i.e. IFBB Pros, for the most part are secretive.
 
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