Makavelli, Mr. X or other Vets!!

[Bourget]

I'm trying to cut-up a little more before the end of summer. Here's what I am considering. Please tell me what you think.

Which cycle looks better?

1-12 500mg Test E
1-6 300mg Tren Hex
1-6 50mg Winny ED
1-12 50 mg Proviron ED
1-12 20mg Aromasin ED

Or

1-12 500mg Test E
1-6 300mg Tren Hex
7-12 50mg Winny ED
1-12 50mg Proviron ED
1-12 20mg Aromasin ED

Or any other suggestions you might have.

Thanks
Bourget

 

[Mr.X]

stats? years training? diet? post it plz

 

[Bourget]

Sorry. I'm 41(will be 42 in a month), I've been training pretty hard and regular since November. Before that I was training on and off since I was 13, but more on than off. My stats:

41 (as I said)
6' 2"
235lbs
approx 10% BF

this will be my third cycle.

I just finished this cycle on the end of May.

1-12 500mg Test E
1-12 400mg EQ
7-12 300mg Tren Hex
7-12 50mg Winny ED
7-12 50mg Proviron ED

Got excellent results from the Tren hence the frontload on my upcoming cycle.

 

[Mr.X]

Sorry. I'm 41(will be 42 in a month), I've been training pretty hard and regular since November. Before that I was training on and off since I was 13, but more on than off. My stats:

41 (as I said)
6' 2"
235lbs
approx 10% BF

this will be my third cycle.

I just finished this cycle on the end of May.

1-12 500mg Test E
1-12 400mg EQ
7-12 300mg Tren Hex
7-12 50mg Winny ED
7-12 50mg Proviron ED

Got excellent results from the Tren hence the frontload on my upcoming cycle.

I like this cycle

1-12 500mg Test E
1-6 300mg Tren Hex
7-12 50mg Winny ED
1-12 50mg Proviron ED
1-12 20mg Aromasin ED

clean, mostly test and short...

PCT, you can run HCG/clomid/nolva and some aromasin or arimidex.

 

[Makavelli]

Sorry. I'm 41(will be 42 in a month), I've been training pretty hard and regular since November. Before that I was training on and off since I was 13, but more on than off. My stats:

41 (as I said)
6' 2"
235lbs
approx 10% BF

this will be my third cycle.

I just finished this cycle on the end of May.

1-12 500mg Test E
1-12 400mg EQ
7-12 300mg Tren Hex
7-12 50mg Winny ED
7-12 50mg Proviron ED

Got excellent results from the Tren hence the frontload on my upcoming cycle.

I would actually do this one again, but increase the Winstrol to 70-100 mgs/day. It's better than your proposed cycles IMO. I don't recommend running tren at the beginning of a cycle. It's too suppressive.

 

[maccer]

MAk why you say this, I thought that was why you should run it at the beginning so that recovery is less harsh?? surely coming off tren at the end it is more taxing? Interested in your thoughts MAK

 

[Big O]

how about prop rather than test e and tren a rather than tren hex....thats some long shit your running there bro...
up the winny like mak said....winny tren, prop that cant be beat as far as a cutter....should have some hcg...for the tren suppression...especially at the end....
the prop and tren a would make a better transition for your pct...it would be within a couple of days of your last shot rather than 2 weeks...just something else to consider...

or are you trying to avoid the frequent injections...?

 

[Makavelli]

MAk why you say this, I thought that was why you should run it at the beginning so that recovery is less harsh?? surely coming off tren at the end it is more taxing? Interested in your thoughts MAK

Actually it's easier to recover when you run it at the end because you can start PCT right away instead of waiting another 6 weeks to run out the rest of the cycle. I have all my guys do it this way and it works.

 

[Bourget]

or are you trying to avoid the frequent injections...?

Yes!

 

[Bourget]

Actually it's easier to recover when you run it at the end because you can start PCT right away instead of waiting another 6 weeks to run out the rest of the cycle. I have all my guys do it this way and it works.

Thanks for the info! Very helpful! But is there anything I can run that would give me good results in about six weeks like the Tren does. I am trying to cut up a little bit more before the end of summer.

 

[Bourget]

Maybe/probably a stupid question, but... What if I do a six week cycle of Test, Tren, Winny and Proviron? I've been on 500 mg wk Test E pretty much since November with the exception of six weeks between cycles back in February and March when I dropped it to 250mg wk.

Just a thought!

 

[Bourget]

Bump

 

[Makavelli]

Thanks for the info! Very helpful! But is there anything I can run that would give me good results in about six weeks like the Tren does. I am trying to cut up a little bit more before the end of summer.

Any fast acting AAS like tren, winstrol, anavar, etc. will help you lose fat.

 

[slat1]

I was always a big fan of this one:

test ent 500mgs wk 1-10
tren ent 500mgs wk 1-10
.5mgs dostinex mon/thurs throughout
hcg/clomid pct

 

[Mr.X]

Any fast acting AAS like tren, winstrol, anavar, etc. will help you lose fat.

disagree. Diet will help you lose fat, not steroids - too many people these days are pushing steroids as a fat loss tool instead of diet.

 

[steelmass]

I was always a big fan of this one:

test ent 500mgs wk 1-10
tren ent 500mgs wk 1-10
.5mgs dostinex mon/thurs throughout
hcg/clomid pct

My thoughts exactly.

 

[Makavelli]

disagree. Diet will help you lose fat, not steroids - too many people these days are pushing steroids as a fat loss tool instead of diet.

LOL! Bro c'mon dawg! You know that I know that. The question was what compounds will ASSIST in fat loss, not CAUSE it. You know me better than that...

 

[Bruce]

only thing i would take into consideration is a lot of guys have had libido issues with the test winny tren mix. personally i would go with test prop if i were you with. i have no experience with tren as far as use goes so i won't comment on that

 

[steelmass]

on equal test and tren i had same libido as off cycle... maybe less feeling though...

 

[Mr.X]

LOL! Bro c'mon dawg! You know that I know that. The question was what compounds will ASSIST in fat loss, not CAUSE it. You know me better than that...

good to hear I chew everyone out who relates steroids to fat loss - you are straight up, so I read into it too much.

One of my female clients from 2 years ago came to me last week telling me she's using deca to lose bodyfat, go figure, right? She says she read it on a female forum - this stuff just makes me sick, but, again, internet is THE place for misinformation by 'gurus'.

 

[Makavelli]

good to hear I chew everyone out who relates steroids to fat loss - you are straight up, so I read into it too much.

One of my female clients from 2 years ago came to me last week telling me she's using deca to lose bodyfat, go figure, right? She says she read it on a female forum - this stuff just makes me sick, but, again, internet is THE place for misinformation by 'gurus'.

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