Mak, Ulter or other vets

[Bourget]

You guys have always given grade A advice. I need to ask you for some more.
Can you guys recommend a good mass building cycle that will not make me bloat too much?

Thanks
Bourget

 

[ortiz34]

You guys have always given grade A advice. I need to ask you for some more.
Can you guys recommend a good mass building cycle that will not make me bloat too much?

Thanks
Bourget

Test Prop, primo, anavar. Go Platinum bro and just use the search feature on lean mass cycles or something like that.

BTW what are your stats? Before telling you what kind and how many dosages you can or should run would help.

 

[Bourget]

Test Prop, primo, anavar. Go Platinum bro and just use the search feature on lean mass cycles or something like that.

BTW what are your stats? Before telling you what kind and how many dosages you can or should run would help.

I am:

42yrs old
6'2" 240lbs
12% BF

Lifting long enough to have pain in all the right places.
Have completed 3 cycles so far(One cycle of Test E only and the other two Test E, Tren Hex, EQ, Winny and Proviron).

 

[MR. BMJ]

What are your goals? How much weight gain?

Are you looking to gain as much as you can, just without the bloat?

Is money a factor?

BMJ

 

[Ulter]

Stats, experience, you know the drill...

 

[MR. BMJ]

...lol, I had to edit my post, I think all 3 of us were posting at the same time

BMJ

 

[Ulter]

Wow you're really old!

You should have a better handle on what works for you than we will if you're on cycle 4. This works for me.

Test 750mg 1-12
NPP 500mg 1-10
Dbol 1-4 35mg/day

Tren Ace 6-12
Winny 50mg/day 6-12

AIFM Throughout cycle and PCT.
HCG and clomid as usual.

 

[ortiz34]

I am:

42yrs old
6'2" 240lbs
12% BF

Lifting long enough to have pain in all the right places.
Have completed 3 cycles so far(One cycle of Test E only and the other two Test E, Tren Hex, EQ, Winny and Proviron).

I'd go with Test prop 75 mgs daily along with Tren ace @50mgs ED Throw in some winny at the end too, and have proviron on hand for PCT or during the cycle if you feel you need it. Also grab some AIFM from the afstore (see Ulters signature for the link) Great stuff! Go with 1 pump per day right through a four week PCT, you might want to drop the AIFM to eod during the last two weeks of PCT.

 

[ninesecz]

TestE 1-12 600-750mg ew
Tren E 400mg ew 1-12
T-bol 40mg ed 1-4or5
Winny 7-12
Aifm
Hcg 100iu eod for 7-10 days then 500iu e3 days for another week or two & cont. AIFM

 

[mr.nitro]

whats wrong with a little bloating?

 

[Makavelli]

I would go with:

Test E 750 mgs/wk weeks 1-12
EQ 600 mgs/wk weeks 1-12
Tren 75 mgs/day weeks 7-12

Use 2 mgs/day of Arimidex to prevent bloat.

 

[Vascular Freak]

I would go with:

Test E 750 mgs/wk weeks 1-12
EQ 600 mgs/wk weeks 1-12
Tren 75 mgs/day weeks 7-12

Use 2 mgs/day of Arimidex to prevent bloat.

This is good, I would also add winstrol wks 1-7 at 60mg ed and run 50mg of proviron throughout. Now thats a killer cycle.

 

[solidspine]

Test 750mg 1-12
NPP 500mg 1-10
Dbol 1-4 35mg/day

Tren Ace 6-12
Winny 50mg/day 6-12

AIFM Throughout cycle and PCT.
HCG and clomid as usual

Ditto, Ditto, Ditto, and Ditto


and that would be Test E for me!

And a touch of Nolvadex for that HCG, and Kleenex for that Clomid


Go easy on the AIFM works fine, only need 2 pumps, max if you see gyno, shit I don't know, never had gyno, but at 4 pumps you may not tolerate it and feel it in you joints.

 

[Bourget]

Ok, I noticed that most of the cycles contained Tren. My last two cycles contained Tren which I've had great results with and no sides.

My concern is the strain Tren puts on the kindeys. I've noticed a darkening of my urine if I don't drink alot of water.

Is it okay to continue with Tren in every cycle or maybe go with something less stressful. Any of you stay on Tren 9 months oout of the year?

 

[Hurricane55]

My concern is the strain Tren puts on the kindeys. I've noticed a darkening of my urine if I don't drink alot of water.

I've never used tren and don't know much about it but you should be drinking a lot of water anyways.

 

[Ulter]

Tren doesn't put a strain on your kidneys.

 

[BigCracker]

TestE 1-12 600-750mg ew
Tren E 400mg ew 1-12
T-bol 40mg ed 1-4or5
Winny 7-12
Aifm
Hcg 100iu eod for 7-10 days then 500iu e3 days for another week or two & cont. AIFM

I like this one-but I like ulter's just a little better.

 

[Makavelli]

Ok, I noticed that most of the cycles contained Tren. My last two cycles contained Tren which I've had great results with and no sides.

My concern is the strain Tren puts on the kindeys. I've noticed a darkening of my urine if I don't drink alot of water.

Is it okay to continue with Tren in every cycle or maybe go with something less stressful. Any of you stay on Tren 9 months oout of the year?

I agree with Ulter. It doesn't affect the kidneys. You should be drinking at least a gallon of water daily anyway. The only effect AAS can have on the kidneys is high blood pressure.

 

[solidspine]

Tren doesn't put a strain on your kidneys.

I have always been under the impression that is the one reason you keep Fina down to 6 weeks, because it can tax your kidneys to the max,

Ulter could you clarify this!

 

[Bourget]

I'm sure I read about Tren and it's strain on kidneys somewhere, I just can't remember. If it doesn't tax the kidneys why then would my urine darken when on Tren if I don't drink enough water?

 

[Makavelli]

I'm sure I read about Tren and it's strain on kidneys somewhere, I just can't remember. If it doesn't tax the kidneys why then would my urine darken when on Tren if I don't drink enough water?

I believe it's from the toxins in the tren. A lot of bros make their own from pellets, AKA Fina, and it doesn't get all the shit out. I've heard that about the kidneys for years, but I've never seen anything showing it does stress the kidneys, except for possibly causing high blood pressure. That will stress the kidneys.

 

[Ulter]

I'm sure I read about Tren and it's strain on kidneys somewhere, I just can't remember. If it doesn't tax the kidneys why then would my urine darken when on Tren if I don't drink enough water?

I'm sure you read it too. The boards are filled with myths and folktales. But it's not based in fact, or any science.

 

[chestmaster1]

I'm sure I read about Tren and it's strain on kidneys somewhere, I just can't remember. If it doesn't tax the kidneys why then would my urine darken when on Tren if I don't drink enough water?

Your urine would darken if you didn't drink enough water, whether your on tren or not

 

[Bourget]

Your urine would darken if you didn't drink enough water, whether your on tren or not

True. And I have noticed that, but It's worse and I have to drink ALOT more water when on Tren. My urine takes on a different color when I run Tren.

Thanks for the replies guys! Always very helpful.

 

[Bourget]

Wow you're really old!

You should have a better handle on what works for you than we will if you're on cycle 4. This works for me.

Test 750mg 1-12
NPP 500mg 1-10
Dbol 1-4 35mg/day

Tren Ace 6-12
Winny 50mg/day 6-12

AIFM Throughout cycle and PCT.
HCG and clomid as usual.

What is NPP?

 

[solidspine]

Npp is like a faster acting Deca

http://www.isteroids.com/



Tren does affect my ability to do cardio

 

[ryan04]

You guys have always given grade A advice. I need to ask you for some more.
Can you guys recommend a good mass building cycle that will not make me bloat too much?

Thanks
Bourget

You need an expert or a even a vet to answer that question? All you need to do is some research you retard. That is probably one of the most basic questions you can possibly ask, and the easiest to answer.

Do you need some help wiping your butt too? Do you want some vets/mods to cut up your steak and chicken into little pieces for you so they're easier to eat? Do you need instructions on how to use a blender or shaker cup for your protein shakes?